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Can u run an hdmi from sat/ cable into the 103D and then out to a reciever that upscales to 4k and still get the darby difference?"
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Is oppo upgrading a new version of this player soon?
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I received my copy of Schindler's List back from Oppo with no note or report on what happened. I had also not received a call or email. I called and talked to their customer service and was informed that Oppo is aware of the situation where MANY movies that exceed the 3 hour limit drop audio after the 3 hour mark. The reported that they are in contact currently with their software developers and trying to figure out a fix via firmware update. It is not only the 103 players as it effects every generation of their players apparently. I wish they would have told me this prior to me spending $9 on shipping for them to ship it right back.... C'mon Oppo....you are better than this.

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$9??? Was that Overnight Express??
Next time, ask them for a shipping label. They can email it and you can print it out and tape it to your package.
Of course you didn't have to send it in, but they should have let you know what was going on with a thank-you note too.
More than likely the disc changed hands from whom it was originally requested by and probably didn't realize why it was sent or being returned.
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I received my copy of Schindler's List back from Oppo with no note or report on what happened. I had also not received a call or email. I called and talked to their customer service and was informed that Oppo is aware of the situation where MANY movies that exceed the 3 hour limit drop audio after the 3 hour mark. The reported that they are in contact currently with their software developers and trying to figure out a fix via firmware update. It is not only the 103 players as it effects every generation of their players apparently. I wish they would have told me this prior to me spending $9 on shipping for them to ship it right back.... C'mon Oppo....you are better than this.
Sorry if this has been suggested before but if you could remux the movie to an mkv format and see whether playing the file will cause the audio drop. Hmm...audio drop after 3 hour mark...sounds serious and totally unacceptable.
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With the just announced addition of AMC to the Sling TV line up, I'm considering subscribing to this service. Does anyone know yet what the resolution is on the Roku Stick? Hopefully it'll be 1080p @ 60HZ even preferably 24HZ and not the lower 720p as the Amazon prime app.
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$9??? Was that Overnight Express??
Next time, ask them for a shipping label. They can email it and you can print it out and tape it to your package.
Of course you didn't have to send it in, but they should have let you know what was going on with a thank-you note too.
More than likely the disc changed hands from whom it was originally requested by and probably didn't realize why it was sent or being returned.
(the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing) ...or maybe they just don't like the Vikings.
Haha! I didn't overnight it as it took 4 days to arrive there. They told me to mail it to them. I'm guessing they didn't demo the disc which is disappointing as I had talked with them on the phone twice and they said they have not heard of anything with this disc. Then I call and they said multiple reports have been filed with long 3 Hour movies dropping out (TLOTR and Titanic were quoted). He proceeded to say wait for a firmware update that could be a week or three months. But they said they are working on it. I'm not happy for one that the player has trouble with a 3 hour movie and two that they didn't do anything to resolve the issue. I left two detailed notes within the case that describes everything and included my contact information. Completely unacceptable.

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Thanks doc for the info on that; I did not know.
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.... Then I call and they said multiple reports have been filed with long 3 Hour movies dropping out (TLOTR and Titanic were quoted). He proceeded to say wait for a firmware update that could be a week or three months. But they said they are working on it. I'm not happy for one that the player has trouble with a 3 hour movie and two that they didn't do anything to resolve the issue.
This is the first time I've heard anyone mention this issue on any of the 10x forums. Certainly somebody else on these forums must have watched a 3+ hr movie before...
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This is the first time I've heard anyone mention this issue on any of the 10x forums. Certainly somebody else on these forums must have watched a 3+ hr movie before...
Keep in mind that the movie cannot be stopped prior to the 3 hour mark for the audio to drop out. At least that was the case in my situation. No bathroom breaks

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I called and talked to their customer service and was informed that Oppo is aware of the situation where MANY movies that exceed the 3 hour limit drop audio after the 3 hour mark. The reported that they are in contact currently with their software developers and trying to figure out a fix via firmware update. It is not only the 103 players as it effects every generation of their players apparently.
I've run into the issue you describe above several times using my Oppo 93 with one of the recent Hobbit (extended version) blu-rays being one example. I've ordered a new Oppo 103D that is due to come in later this week, so I guess that unit will do the same until a firmware fix is released. At least now I know it was the player causing the issue.

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I've run into the issue you describe above several times using my Oppo 93 with one of the recent Hobbit (extended version) blu-rays being one example. I've ordered a new Oppo 103D that is due to come in later this week, so I guess that unit will do the same until a firmware fix is released. At least now I know it was the player causing the issue.
Was this without pausing of any sort? That's going to be troublesome to test. You'd have to let it play for three hours and then be there before the disc ends.

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Was this without pausing of any sort? That's going to troublesome to test. You'd have to let it play for three hours and then be there before the disc ends.

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I have Titanic BR and never played it, will see if this affects my unit. Do I have to watch it from start or can I just forward near the three-hour mark?
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Haha! I didn't overnight it as it took 4 days to arrive there. They told me to mail it to them. I'm guessing they didn't demo the disc which is disappointing as I had talked with them on the phone twice and they said they have not heard of anything with this disc. Then I call and they said multiple reports have been filed with long 3 Hour movies dropping out (TLOTR and Titanic were quoted). He proceeded to say wait for a firmware update that could be a week or three months. But they said they are working on it. I'm not happy for one that the player has trouble with a 3 hour movie and two that they didn't do anything to resolve the issue. I left two detailed notes within the case that describes everything and included my contact information. Completely unacceptable.
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Missed this post. Guess I'll have to dread through 3 hours and see what happens.
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Keep in mind that the movie cannot be stopped prior to the 3 hour mark for the audio to drop out. At least that was the case in my situation. No bathroom breaks
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I have recently watched both Titanic and Lawrence of Arabia (single disc) blu-rays without any loss of audio on my 103D.
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I have recently watched both Titanic and Lawrence of Arabia (single disc) blu-rays without any loss of audio on my 103D.
Without pausing once?
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I have recently watched both Titanic and Lawrence of Arabia (single disc) blu-rays without any loss of audio on my 103D.
Yep, I recently watched the 50th anniversary edition of Lawrence of Arabia on my BDP-103EU... Without any playback issues...

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Was this without pausing of any sort? That's going to troublesome to test. You'd have to let it play for three hours and then be there before the disc ends.
Hi, Bill

It's been a few weeks since this happened, so I can't remember for sure, but I don't recall doing any pausing on the movies that this happened with. The first time it did this, I was thinking about how it was nearly to the end of the movie when it occurred, but then I didn't give it much thought after that until it happened again with another long movie, just before it reached the ending. That time, I thought about the fact that it was right around the 3 hour mark in both cases. If memory serves, it was the extended versions of the first and second Hobbit films by Peter Jackson that I was watching.

Hope this info is helpful to you in some way and do let me know should you have further questions.

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Update from Oppo:

I emailed them late last night asking for more clarification of the issue. Here is their prompt response:
".....When he had first talked to you he was not aware that there were other reported films over that weekend with DTS-HD Master which were experiencing issues with the audio dropping out after 3 hours of continuous playback, so he had requested that you send in the disc for compatibility testing. In the interim between you sending the disc and us receiving the disc, we had already replicated this issue on other Blu-ray titles that we already owned....As **** already explained over the phone last evening, this issue affects all of our players (we have not tested competitor players) where a DTS-HD Master soundtrack is played and the run time is more than 3 hours. At this time we do not know what is causing the errors, but our engineers are aware of it and will be working to address it through a future firmware release."

I am impressed with Oppo as they were very quick to respond. Hopefully they figure this out and fix it via firmware soon.

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I watched "Gods and Generals" Directors Cut > 5 hr`s + "Gettysburg" Directors Cut >4 hr`s , both with no issues.

Of course I did have to stop a few times , so your saying that if I did not , I would have lost DTS audio via optical cable to my amp ? or is this just another HDMI issue ?

If it is just an HDMI issue is that with using one HDMI to monitor and one for audio or is it going through and receiver with pass through audio ?

Just curios because someday , my Yamaha DSP-A1G , will cease to function , and I will be looking for a replacement , of course I have already looked , and each time I do , whatever I look at has to have enough optical inputs to cover my needs so I don`t have to rely solely on using HDMI as my only source for audio hookup.

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I watched "Gods and Generals" Directors Cut > 5 hr`s + "Gettysburg" Directors Cut >4 hr`s , both with no issues.

Of course I did have to stop a few times , so your saying that if I did not , I would have lost DTS audio via optical cable to my amp ? or is this just another HDMI issue ?

If it is just an HDMI issue is that with using one HDMI to monitor and one for audio or is it going through and receiver with pass through audio ?

Just curios because someday , my Yamaha DSP-A1G , will cease to function , and I will be looking for a replacement , of course I have already looked , and each time I do , whatever I look at has to have enough optical inputs to cover my needs so I don`t have to rely solely on using HDMI as my only source for audio hookup.

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Funny, I just did this, not to test this, but to watch Gods and Generals and had no problem with audio.
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I watched "Gods and Generals" Directors Cut > 5 hr`s + "Gettysburg" Directors Cut >4 hr`s , both with no issues.

Of course I did have to stop a few times , so your saying that if I did not , I would have lost DTS audio via optical cable to my amp ? or is this just another HDMI issue ?

If it is just an HDMI issue is that with using one HDMI to monitor and one for audio or is it going through and receiver with pass through audio ?

Just curios because someday , my Yamaha DSP-A1G , will cease to function , and I will be looking for a replacement , of course I have already looked , and each time I do , whatever I look at has to have enough optical inputs to cover my needs so I don`t have to rely solely on using HDMI as my only source for audio hookup.

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My understanding is it is through HDMI. I have mine to the pre-amp via 1 hdmi cable. I think I remember them aging last night that they were unsure if optical would cause the issue.

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Just finished watching the Titanic Blu-Ray and DTS-MA audio muted at 3:06:29 (where Rose met Jack again by the clock) and completely cut off. Picture kept playing w/o affect.
Disc: Single Disc movie (Paramount/Fox Searchlight Blu-Ray+DVD+Digital Copy 4-Disc Set)

Kind of bummed me out for a $600+ machine! Hope Oppo fix the issue soon or it's going back, I don't care how long I've had it.
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Thanks guy`s

Good movies , Ron Maxwell and Ted Turner needed to do "Last Full Measure"

Very disappointed to hear that Turner did not want to do it because of bad ratings.

Of course they will get bad ratings , they are long movies !!

You can`t tell a historical movie in 90 min.`s , and sadly that is the attention span of the modern movie goer , so yes , they could have done better , BUT , they could not have been MADE better. Great movies , just fantastic.

If you liked those and have somehow missed "The Right Stuff" , you need to see that as well. Long yes , 3+ hours , worth it , YES. Since I bought it on VHS back in `85 it has always been in my library , from VHS to LD to DVD to BluRay , a MUST see for history nuts !!

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Thanks for posting the Oppo update, DrMichael.

I'm glad to know that this is a real issue and not just some quirk that was only happening on my end. Yeah, I'm too am happy that they are aware of the problem and are moving to get it corrected right away. Will be watching for that firmware upgrade!
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As far as I know, both DFF and DSF files should be supported by Oppo. I have extracted both file formats from SACDs using sacd_extract via Sonore's iso2dsd Java GUI interface however only DSFs file can only be played. My question to all is that have you guys successfully played DFFs using Oppo and if so how did you extract them? I prefer DFFs as they are faster to extract compared to DSFs. Thank you.

Updated: DFF extraction has 2 options actually which are with DST (compression) and DSD. Default is with DST which is what my DFF was. DST compression is not supported by OPPO using usb media but supported if it is on SACD disc so that is why my extracted DFFs didn't work. After extracting again the SACD using DSD DFF, all is fine but again this too takes time, comparable to DSF extraction. After reading around, I'm under the impression it is best to extract to DSF as opposed to DFF as DSF support metadata tagging.

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