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Sure I do because eye rolling can have many different meanings. Neither one of us expected our outcome.


You guys sure have a different way of looking at things. If I rolled my eyes in front of my wife, I know what the outcome would be.


And it wouldn't be good.

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You guys sure have a different way of looking at things. If I rolled my eyes in front of my wife, I know what the outcome would be.


And it wouldn't be good.

Ain't that the truth!
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You guys sure have a different way of looking at things. If I rolled my eyes in front of my wife, I know what the outcome would be.


And it wouldn't be good.

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Ain't that the truth!
Maybe it's our Northern California roots.
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I do miss Northern California! Live in that area for about 6 years.
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Question Oppo BDP-103D recommended settings with this particular audio/video gear?

I was recently asked few questions from Marcel in Holland, with his LG 4K TV and Yamaha Dolby Atmos/DTS:X AV receiver with 4K HDMI.

"Hello!

Can you please recommend / advise the following audio options for an Oppo 103 Darbee Edition ?
( my receiver is a Yamaha RX-A1050 and my television a LG 55EG960V ):

• RESOLUTION:
4K x 2K / Auto / 1080p / 1080i ??
• SECONDARY AUDIO:
On / Off ?
• HDMI AUDIO:
Auto / Lpcm / bitstream / Off ??
• HDCD DECODING:
On / Off ??
• CROSSOVER:
Now 80 hz -> can be up to 250hz -> What would you advise ?
• DYNAMIC RANGE CONTROL:
Auto / On / Off ??
• DTS NEO: 6 MODE:
Music / Cinema / Off ??
• OUTPUT VOLUME:
Variable / Fixed ??
• PICTURE MODE:
Any recommended settting ??
• DARBEE:
Level setting percentage ??
• NOISE REDUCTION:
Zero, or ??

My Yamaha RX-A 1050 receiver with Dolby Atmos. What picture setting would you use please: Through, 1080p or 1080i ??

Thank you soooo much in advance for the information requested and look forward to hear from you !

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Holland"


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To answer the crossover question properly, we'd need to know about his speakers. But, if he is connected by HDMI to his AVR, then the Oppo speaker setting is irrelevant since it only applies to the analog audio outputs of the Oppo.

Other settings:

Resolution: I'd start with 1080p from the Oppo, assuming his TV does a good job of upscaling. He should try the 4k setting though and stick with what gives the best results

Secondary audio: definitely off

HDMI audio: bitstream if he wants to get Atmos.

HDCD decoding: off if his receiver does HDCD decoding, otherwise on. The chances are he has little if any HDCD-encoded source material anyway.

Dynamic range control: Off

DTS Neo: Off. If he wants this kind of thing, he should do it at the AVR for best results.

Darbee: the general recommendation seems to be around 35 percent but you need to experiment

Noise reduction: off
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^ What he said.

Crossover is only active if he's using the Analog audio outputs. (If he's using HDMI audio into the Yamaha, then look to the Yamaha settings for this stuff.)

If he IS using the Analog audio outputs then leave Crossover at 80hz until he has time to explore the actual bass response of his speakers and listening room. Crossover will only apply to speakers set to Small in the player's Speaker Configuration.

Similarly, Volume control is only applicable when using the Analog audio outputs. If running those through a pre-amp or receiver that handles Volume control, then odds are the Fixed setting is what he wants.

As for picture adjustments, this is a complicated topic, but the basic idea is to make all adjustments in the TV. Leave the Picture Adjustment settings in the OPPO at their factory default (0) values. Set that way, the OPPO puts out Reference level video signals on HDMI. The idea, then is to get the TV adjusted to render those properly.

For Picture Mode in the TV, look for something labeled Movies or Cinema or such. Basically you will be looking for the Picture Mode that appears to give the darkest and softest image. That may not seem impressive at first blush, but it really is the right choice.

For the rest of the picture adjustment settings in the TV he'll need to spend some quality time with a calibration disc -- such as Spears & Munsil v2, available from OPPO.
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Thanks Jazz and Bob. You just confirmed @ 100% the answers I gave to him previously.

And he is not using the analog connection, so the 80Hz crossover is irrelevant (all Speakers Default settings are fine). He's all HDMI connected.

* The Darbee level (%); that I wasn't sure. I told him that the average 103D owners are around 50% (a little too much).
But I also told him to experiment, and that it depends of the films themselves and the medium they were transferred to...Blu-ray/DVD/others from streaming. ...35% ...that sounds right. Thanks Jazz.

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Alright, a different person:

"Curious about setting cadence on your oppo's;
I don't use an AVR, after much experimentation, best results = setting my BRP (panasonic) to output 1080p60 (instead of 1080p24) which allows the panny to convert 24fps into 60fps. Accordingly, my Sharp HDTV is set to it's minimum 60hz mode, all film modes / other processing switched off. This setup provides the least amount of motion artifacts, SOE, and proper sound / picture syncing."


Any recommendation for this new ↑ gentleman? Is he in the right ballpark?
______________

* In my own different setup (Oppo 103, and not 103D);
[HDMI 1 directly to my Samsung 1080p plasma TV for Video, and HDMI 2 to my pre/pro for Audio - with Dual HDMI Output set to Split A/V]:
- 1080p 24 Output: On
- DVD 24 p Conversion: On
- Color Space: 4:4:4 (for both HDMI 1 and 2)
- Deep Color: Off (HDMI 1 and 2)
______________
_______

♦ Marcel, the other guy from Holland; I was just thinking about their TV system over there: That shouldn't affect the other settings, right?

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I own the 93, but I read the 103 and 103D threads. It doesn't sound like you got your expectations from either of the 103 threads about PQ other than the modest enjoyment some members have gotten from the subtle use of the Darby feature.

I moved from an OPPO DVD player to the 83 Blu-ray player for the ability to play Blu-ray disks. I moved to the 93 to be able to play backup .ISO files and other features. I didn't move to either of the 103 models because I wasn't interested enough in the new feature set to do a trade up, and I would have lost the ability to play .ISO files. I still read these threads because I love OPPO products.

When the Kuro dies it's last death, I'll go 4K OPPO and display, but I will not trade the 93. It'll still be in our rack. It sounds like a marriage. The one I'm in is 53 years old this August.
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Question concerning dynamic range control. I've been listening to concerts on bluray discs (in 2.0) using the optical connection to my stand alone Moon 280D dac. When listening to The Police (Certifiable) concert i started to notice some pops coming out of the right speaker. After investigation, I'm hearing clipping. The only way i was able to get red of this was to turn dynamic range control on. Can anybody explain this?

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Question concerning dynamic range control. I've been listening to concerts on bluray discs (in 2.0) using the optical connection to my stand alone Moon 280D dac. When listening to The Police (Certifiable) concert i started to notice some pops coming out of the right speaker. After investigation, I'm hearing clipping. The only way i was able to get red of this was to turn dynamic range control on. Can anybody explain this?
If you switch speakers do you still hear this on the right speaker?
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If you switch speakers do you still hear this on the right speaker?
I should have mentionned that the pops come out of both speakers but the right one is louder. It's just the first i noticed it was from the right.

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It's not the first time i've heard clipping listening to concerts. The Eagles, Hell freezes over DVD does this also, even in 5.1 using HDMI to my Anthem receiver.

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It's not the first time i've heard clipping listening to concerts. The Eagles, Hell freezes over DVD does this also, even in 5.1 using HDMI to my Anthem receiver.
What are your speakers? Im assuming this isnt an issue due to the AVR you're using, but I have to ask. Does this happen at a certain volume level? If so, check for loose or crossed connections at both ends of your cables, especially at the AVR.
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[QUOTE=pacman9270;44221562]What are your speakers? Im assuming this isnt an issue due to the AVR you're using, but I have to ask. Does this happen at a certain volume level? If so, check for loose or crossed connections at both ends of your cables, especially at the AVR.[/QUOTE

Speakers are Focal Aria 936 and it doesnt happen at a certain level. I already checkecd for phase inversion and loose cables. And one more thing, after turning HDRC on i can crank up the volume till my ears bleed and no clippong.

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I run my 103D through a Yamaha 3050 connected to a Panasonic VT60 plasma display. I use DNICE's calibration settings for the display. When I vary the Darbee settings in the OPPO, I see very little difference on the display. I contacted OPPO and a rep said calibration can diminish the Darbee effect. Have others experienced the same thing? If so, does running HDMI directly to the display yield the Darbee benefit?
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I run my 103D through a Yamaha 3050 connected to a Panasonic VT60 plasma display. I use DNICE's calibration settings for the display. When I vary the Darbee settings in the OPPO, I see very little difference on the display. I contacted OPPO and a rep said calibration can diminish the Darbee effect. Have others experienced the same thing? If so, does running HDMI directly to the display yield the Darbee benefit?
Try watching with Darbee on with a recommended setting for a week or two. Then turn it off. See if you miss it. Not everyone will miss it. Darbee is supposed to be subtle.

As far as calibration is concerned, D-Nice would tell you that using his settings is not a calibration. Remember the difference between subtle and WoW!
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I run my 103D through a Yamaha 3050 connected to a Panasonic VT60 plasma display. I use DNICE's calibration settings for the display. When I vary the Darbee settings in the OPPO, I see very little difference on the display. I contacted OPPO and a rep said calibration can diminish the Darbee effect. Have others experienced the same thing? If so, does running HDMI directly to the display yield the Darbee benefit?
I agree with avtoronto. It is very subtle in the beginning. Start off with Hi-Def at 35% for the first 3 weeks. The Darbee works best with reference source material.
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I've switched to Network-SMB to access my movie files on my 103D and the subtitles work perfectly. I've noticed that the SMB initially appears with long delays on the Oppo Network screen. Sometimes I have to reboot the Oppo and the server to get it to appear. But once it appears it works perfectly. Anything I can do to get it to consistently appear quickly? Thanks.
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I've switched to Network-SMB to access my movie files on my 103D and the subtitles work perfectly. I've noticed that the SMB initially appears with long delays on the Oppo Network screen. Sometimes I have to reboot the Oppo and the server to get it to appear. But once it appears it works perfectly. Anything I can do to get it to consistently appear quickly? Thanks.
The top of the list has a Search selection to refresh the list of servers. You can always jump back to that screen with the Blue button.

Network discovery of servers sometimes requires starting them up on their host machines. This can cause delays and the timing is not always reproducible.

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The top of the list has a Search selection to refresh the list of servers. You can always jump back to that screen with the Blue button.

Network discovery of servers sometimes requires starting them up on their host machines. This can cause delays and the timing is not always reproducible.

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Bill, thanks for the quick reply.

The server is a Windows 10 desktop (30+ TB of movies) that I turn on just to feed the Oppo with movies via ethernet. It's not on 24x7. The recognition of the SMB server by the Oppo can be instantaneous or I can muddle through repeated restarts of the Oppo and the server until the Oppo pops up with the SMB icon. I have used the Search function at the top of the Network page putting the cursor on it and hitting enter and it says loading but it's still has come back with no server listed.

I never had this problem with DLNA or Plex but I had to switch to SMB to get blu-ray subtitles to work.

The server has always been turned on first? Would it be better if I started the Oppo first before the server? It is annoying? Any other ideas?
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Bill, thanks for the quick reply.

The server is a Windows 10 desktop (30+ TB of movies) that I turn on just to feed the Oppo with movies via ethernet. It's not on 24x7. The recognition of the SMB server by the Oppo can be instantaneous or I can muddle through repeated restarts of the Oppo and the server until the Oppo pops up with the SMB icon. I have used the Search function at the top of the Network page putting the cursor on it and hitting enter and it says loading but it's still has come back with no server listed.

I never had this problem with DLNA or Plex but I had to switch to SMB to get blu-ray subtitles to work.

The server has always been turned on first? Would it be better if I started the Oppo first before the server? It is annoying? Any other ideas?
How long are you waiting for the server to appear? If you leave it for 10 minutes does it never appear?

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How long are you waiting for the server to appear? If you leave it for 10 minutes does it never appear?

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I've waited for no more than about 5 minutes, that's the limit of my patience, before I start the rebooting process of the Oppo and the Server. When I check the server it always shows within the network the Oppo, the Samsung TV (when they're turned on) and a linux app? (which I presume is initiated by the Oppo) but the Oppo still doesn't show the SMB icon. Then suddenly after about another 5 or 10 minutes while I'm rebooting like a fool the SMB icon pops up on the Oppo. Again, it's annoying-- any ideas on how to eliminate the initial delay.

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any ideas on how to eliminate the initial delay.

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I've waited for no more than about 5 minutes, that's the limit of my patience,.
Sounds to me like you have the player in "Energy Efficient" standby mode. Change it to "Quick-Start" and it keeps your network data live. SMB shares are immediately available.
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Sounds to me like you have the player in "Energy Efficient" standby mode. Change it to "Quick-Start" and it keeps your network data live. SMB shares are immediately available.
But if he isn't keeping his PC powered up 24/7, as he mentioned, quick start may not help.
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But if he isn't keeping his PC powered up 24/7, as he mentioned, quick start may not help.
Works OK here.
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