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can someone point me to a thread to help me choose the sony s790 or the panny 500. Both have 2 hdmi outs which I need. Which is the better unit?
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can someone point me to a thread to help me choose the sony s790 or the panny 500. Both have 2 hdmi outs which I need. Which is the better unit?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/959985/official-help-me-choose-a-player-thread-cant-decide-start-here

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Hello? Nobody can confirm darbee has nothing to do with 3D? I am about to order it, but being sure on it. Obviously 4k upconverting needs a 4k tv and so I am being sure darbee isn't meant for 3D tvs. I assume not, but why not be totally sure before I order?

edit: now some reviews say it works best with high quality content and some says it's best for SD content. I have a feeling this will be wasting $100m but tough to decide. And the whole it can be returned doesn't matter because by the time you get docked for shipping it would mean you barely saved any money going back to the regular 103.

My thinking on this is I would usually watch it with it disabled, but that it may be worth the money to use it occasioanly for something different and also supposedly then you can defeat noise reduction if you're not using it.
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Hello? Nobody can confirm darbee has nothing to do with 3D? I am about to order it, but being sure on it. Obviously 4k upconverting needs a 4k tv and so I am being sure darbee isn't meant for 3D tvs. I assume not, but why not be totally sure before I order?
You don't need a 3D display to make use of DVP. It works fine with standard 1080P displays. Read over this extensive review. (translated)

Also avoid using DVP with higher settings as that creates artifacts, most recommend the HD mode with 25 to 35% level.

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yeah, I did read that (about using low settings). I ahte tp spend the difference when starting today I never planned on buying a player, but quickly sold my 93 and I hate to think "what if I did like it" about darbee after buying the regular 103. So I guess I am going to try it.

Thanks for the response. I assumed it didn't need 3d capability, but more than once I have assumed something when buying a product and been wrong. smile.gif
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Hope I didn't mess up ordering from Amazon.... It says it's sent straight from oppo, but the estimated delivery date shows up to 3 weeks from today, whereas on the oppo site it says 1-6. I assume since it's Oppo sending it, it would ship the same way and time as if I ahd ordered straight from them....
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I just got my 103D ordering through Amazon after returning a 103 ordered from OPPO. In both cases, no matter what the delivery window or who was providing it, the package arrived in 5-6 days to my home in Maryland. Don't worry, be happy. smile.gif FYI it is always FedEx so if the time frame means it would hit on a weekend you will have to wait. mad.gif

Just read your previous post: Yes, the DVD performance is very impressive with decent DVDs using Darbee ... one of my big reasons for going this route. Blu-ray is just stunning with even low levels of Darbee.



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Hope I didn't mess up ordering from Amazon.... It says it's sent straight from oppo, but the estimated delivery date shows up to 3 weeks from today, whereas on the oppo site it says 1-6. I assume since it's Oppo sending it, it would ship the same way and time as if I ahd ordered straight from them....

I ordered through Amazon and I got it in 2 days. I live in SoCal and according to Oppo's website, 2 days was to be expected. Yes, Amazon's estimate was way off. Trust in Oppo's estimates on their site.
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This thread is gettting to be a little too "fan boy" for me.

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This thread is gettting to be a little too "fan boy" for me.
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^^ Odd. The 103D doesn't HAVE a fan.
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Someone mentioned in the regular 103 thread that you have to split video and audio to take advantage of the processing chip. What is the situation with this D version s far as that goes? Now I am starting to wonder if the 103D will have worse processing than the 103 if darbee is not being used. Wouldn't it just be using processing inferior to the marvel chip if darbee is disabled? on my 93, I never split it. I don't know how noticeable any differences would have eben ahd I been splitting.
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^ No different than the way you would use the 93. Just use the single, HDMI 1 output of the 103D unless you HAVE TO use dual cabling -- for example if you have a 3D TV, but your AVR can't pass 3D video signals.

Connection options are described in the Manual for the 103D -- downloadable from the OPPO Digital Support page for the 103D:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx?prodID=BDP103D

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But what's the deal about better processing on the regular 103 when splitting? And is marvel basically simply an alternative to what darbee is on ehre? (ie, not the same, but both being extra processing abilities)
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^ Incorrect info. No need to split unless your AVR requires it.
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ok, thanks. I really feel like I did make a mistake getting the d version, though, for the simple fact that the picture already has so much depth and looks nearly 3D on this kuro elite as it is and plus, although I didn't used to, I now am more into having things look more how they are "supposed to". I hope I find some use for the darbee part because I doubt I could cancel in time now and returning = $30+ in shipping fees so at that point it would be better to keep it. I was in a hurry to order something because I sold my 93 and need to ship it asap sow as rushing a replacement to me. lol I can see the D version being much more important on most tvs, but also the one negative review on Amazon is form someone with another tv close to kuro level, so I am thinking the effect may not be noticeable enough to me. Hopefully it works out for me or I am able to switch it if I end up sure I would have rather had the regular. Blah. I ahte making decisions on these things.

Btw, is there any one place telling all of the issues people are having? I still feel like oppos are ridiculously buggy for such high rated players. I haven't paid close attention to details, but just from skimming here and there, I know people are having all kinds of audio issues and something about hdmi 1 having issues that hdmu2 doesn't have for some reason. I'm paying to go from 93 to 103, thinking it would be solivng a lot of issues and it sounds like it adds more.
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Relax. The 103D you have on order will be fine. ALL players have problems. Seriously. The point of threads like this is to encourage people to discuss any issues, so they can find out which are just operator error -- easy to fix on their own -- and which are resolved as new firmware comes out.

I like to think in the OPPO threads we do a better job helping people understand what's up, and so it's no surprise owners post a lot.
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So much handwringing. Just accept it's on the way and let your eyes decide for you. I love it so far. I own a Samsung F8500 plasma, which is a decent set in its own right. I have Darbee set to 35 most of the time. The main reason I bought this version was for cable TV improvement, not so much disc media. Lets face it, most providers and streaming services need enhancement to their PQ. I have FIOS for reference sake. Anyway, I'm happy.
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While I dont like the Darbee stuff, the 103D plays everything I have put in it, including 3D, and offers excellent PQ on optical and with my DVR running thru it. Im not sure what else I could be mad about. Also built like a tank, passes video tests (some players still dont do this) and has exceptional warranty and support. Is it for everyone? No. But it is nice player and offers a ton of options.

I also have a Roku stick on the way from Oppo, be curious to see how that works.

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A lot of angst in the 103D thread lately worrying about the extra $100 being a possible waste of money. After trading in the 103 for the 103D several weeks ago I can tell you it's the best $100 I've ever spent. I thought the 103 was great (and it is) but with the big 150" screen the Darbee adds so much depth and detail that it's simply more fun to watch movies.

I'm waiting for the newest gen of projectors to come out to upgrade my 720p , but the wait is now very tolerable after upgrading to the 103D. I won't set off another flame war here, but I still have zero doubt that the 103D also has a bigger more precise sound than the regular 103. Fan boy? Yes, and for good reason.
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To be honest, once you are spending $500 on a player, whats another $100? I like knowing I have all the goodies, even if I dont use them.
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I am thinking of getting the 103D but will be using a Pioneer Kuro 5020FD (50"). Would it be worth it to get the darbee edition over the regular 103?

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I am thinking of getting the 103D but will be using a Pioneer Kuro 5020FD (50"). Would it be worth it to get the darbee edition over the regular 103?

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The biggest Darbee fans are projector owners, but you can see the effect on any type of screen.

"Worth" is subjective. You can turn it up so high that it is ludicrous, then down again such that it has a positive effect without looking noticeably processed.

I like playing with it (and I have a small screen) but I could live without it.

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I am thinking of getting the 103D but will be using a Pioneer Kuro 5020FD (50"). Would it be worth it to get the darbee edition over the regular 103?

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I got the 103D and have a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD (50"). I would say the decision really depends on how far you sit from the screen. I sit too far, but still see the Darbee difference. It doesn't look "processed" to me, so I really like that feature.

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improvement over my old Pioneer BDP-51FD, picture and audio-wise (I use analog outs). And that thing was the same price!
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[quote name="camui78" url="/t/1492940/official-oppo-bdp-103d-darbee-edition-owners-thread/900#post_23902660"]I am thinking of getting the 103D but will be using a Pioneer Kuro 5020FD (50"). Would it be worth it to get the darbee edition over the regular 103?Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4[/quote]I got the 103D and have a Pioneer Elite PRO-111FD (50"). I would say the decision really depends on how far you sit from the screen. I sit too far, but still see the Darbee difference. It doesn't look "processed" to me, so I really like that feature.Overall, this player is an nice improvement over my old Pioneer BDP-51FD, picture and audio-wise (I use analog outs). And that thing was the same price!

I sit about 7-8' from the TV.

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As with all other tech threads, happy owners dont like to be called names when they own what they feel is a great product. So calling them names is not going to gain you many favors.

Making the fanboy comment could easily label you as a "troll".

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I sit about 7-8' from the TV.

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Oooooh, you sit right up there! Well, as opinions vary about Darbee, the extra $100 was worth it to me.
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