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Thanks guys. One thing that's confusing is that the Oppo manual says that when in split AV mode, the video output on HDMI2 may be suppressed in order to improve the audio quality on HDMI2. That kinda implies that if one is using HDMI1 for both video and audio, then the audio may be compromised. Would that be true? I use bitstream as audio all the time.
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Dual HDMI Output: Allows you to select the output mode when both HDMI Output ports are in
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Mine is set to split av, but I only use HDMI 1.

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Thanks guys. One thing that's confusing is that the Oppo manual says that when in split AV mode, the video output on HDMI2 may be suppressed in order to improve the audio quality on HDMI2. That kinda implies that if one is using HDMI1 for both video and audio, then the audio may be compromised. Would that be true? I use bitstream as audio all the time.

I wouldnt think so. HDMI 1 & 2 are seperate, that is why HDMI 1 has the Darbee processing. Also you cant suppress to increase audio quality from lossless formats if i understood your question correctly.

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I think I will order the 103D soon. Question......Which Netfilx app is better the internal one or the one in the Roku stick? Also, How long before actually turning this on before the player passes signal through it to the TV? I am going to use the Darbee for cable also and I am trying to determine how wife friendly the addition to the signal chain this will be.


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Hi

Quick question regarding the hdmi input. If I connect a cable box and send the oppo a standard definition 4x3 picture will it upscale the picture to 1080p and also add black bars to maintain the correct aspect ratio?

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Quick question regarding the hdmi input. If I connect a cable box and send the oppo a standard definition 4x3 picture will it upscale the picture to 1080p and also add black bars to maintain the correct aspect ratio?

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Quick question regarding the hdmi input. If I connect a cable box and send the oppo a standard definition 4x3 picture will it upscale the picture to 1080p and also add black bars to maintain the correct aspect ratio?

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I run the cable box into Oppo - out to receiver- then out of receiver (set to direct) to 65ZT60 - signal goes into the receiver as 1080p and maintains 4X3 format.

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Does anyone have an opinion? Thanks.

Using the Netflix in OPPO allows use of the Darbee - set player to Quick Start and you be in the display to access Netflix quickly - exact time will depend on how your system is set up but similar to when I was using a Panasonic player.

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I run the cable box into Oppo - out to receiver- then out of receiver (set to direct) to 65ZT60 - signal goes into the receiver as 1080p and maintains 4X3 format.

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Has anyone seen this behavior before. My 103D seems to think that there are 14 USB drives plugged into the rear USB socket. There's only one thumb drive actually connected. I tried with several other USB sticks, and each time the Oppo think 14 drives are connected !!

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if my receiver (sc-63) has a marvel q processor shouldn't i run the video from oppo to tv thru output 1 and audio to reciever thru output 2 so it's not scaled or processed twice?
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Thanks guys. It's just that I see a few are complaining about the Netflix app in the 103D, so I figured the Roku might be better, but I guess not. Having Amazon streaming would be nice but having the stick in the front of the player is not something I look forward to, so if the Netflix in the 103D is as good, I will just use that.

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Update: Oppo is having me ship them the unit. I give them my credit card info and they ship a new one before they receive my faulty one. (and then credit my card once they receive the bad one)

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Has anyone seen this behavior before. My 103D seems to think that there are 14 USB drives plugged into the rear USB socket. There's only one thumb drive actually connected. I tried with several other USB sticks, and each time the Oppo think 14 drives are connected !!

Any ideas? Using the latest public beta version.



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Thanks guys. One thing that's confusing is that the Oppo manual says that when in split AV mode, the video output on HDMI2 may be suppressed in order to improve the audio quality on HDMI2. That kinda implies that if one is using HDMI1 for both video and audio, then the audio may be compromised. Would that be true? I use bitstream as audio all the time.

Not correct. There is no such thing as audio only HDMI. Audio on HDMI is multiplexed into the "blanking intervals" of video. There must ALWAYS be a video signal -- even if it is just a black screen.

The issue with using dual HDMI cabling is that the two devices you are connecting to may have different capabilities to accept HDMI formats. So the player has to decide how to prioritize things.

When you cable both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 and have Split A/V set, then the HDMI handshake gives priority to the audio on HDMI 2. Meaning a "safe" video signal may be sent to HDMI 2 that can carry the best quality audio. Meanwhile audio is muted on HDMI 1 so that the "best" video handshake can result on HDMI 1. There will be video to BOTH HDMI 1 and HDMI 2, but the video signal may be different with HDMI 1 getting the best format possible for video (and HDMI 2 getting the best format possible for audio in a "safe" video signal).

Note that when only one output is cabled the Split A/V vs. Dual Display choice is simply ignored. The handshake negotiates for best audio and video on that single HDMI connection according to what the device at the other end can accept. There is of course no possibility of conflict since you are only connecting to one device.
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I think I will order the 103D soon. Question......Which Netfilx app is better the internal one or the one in the Roku stick? Also, How long before actually turning this on before the player passes signal through it to the TV? I am going to use the Darbee for cable also and I am trying to determine how wife friendly the addition to the signal chain this will be.


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Quick question regarding the hdmi input. If I connect a cable box and send the oppo a standard definition 4x3 picture will it upscale the picture to 1080p and also add black bars to maintain the correct aspect ratio?

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Yes, so long as you have the player's Aspect Ratio set to "16:9 Wide/Auto". The "/Auto" is what tells the player it is OK to add the pillar box bars.
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Has anyone seen this behavior before. My 103D seems to think that there are 14 USB drives plugged into the rear USB socket. There's only one thumb drive actually connected. I tried with several other USB sticks, and each time the Oppo think 14 drives are connected !!

Any ideas? Using the latest public beta version.



Are you sure your thumb drives aren't actually partitioned into multiple Volumes?

If you are sure the drive only has a single Volume on it, then give OPPO Tech Support a call. I've not seen any other reports of a problem like this, but I suppose you could have a faulty USB input.

I take it you are plugging the drive DIRECTLY into the player, right? No hub or drive enclosure or other USB gizmo in the signal path?
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Are you sure your thumb drives aren't actually partitioned into multiple Volumes?

If you are sure the drive only has a single Volume on it, then give OPPO Tech Support a call. I've not seen any other reports of a problem like this, but I suppose you could have a faulty USB input.

I take it you are plugging the drive DIRECTLY into the player, right? No hub or drive enclosure or other USB gizmo in the signal path?
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Yes its a simple single partition and no hub or anything fancy. Just a direct connection to the rear USB port.

I did a restore and it didn't seem to fix the issue. However on the 2nd restore, now it seems to be ok again and showing one USB drive only. Have to keep an eye on it.
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^ Perhaps attempt inserting a different USB drive should the problem arise again.
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Not correct. There is no such thing as audio only HDMI. Audio on HDMI is multiplexed into the "blanking intervals" of video. There must ALWAYS be a video signal -- even if it is just a black screen.

The issue with using dual HDMI cabling is that the two devices you are connecting to may have different capabilities to accept HDMI formats. So the player has to decide how to prioritize things.

When you cable both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 and have Split A/V set, then the HDMI handshake gives priority to the audio on HDMI 2. Meaning a "safe" video signal may be sent to HDMI 2 that can carry the best quality audio. Meanwhile audio is muted on HDMI 1 so that the "best" video handshake can result on HDMI 1. There will be video to BOTH HDMI 1 and HDMI 2, but the video signal may be different with HDMI 1 getting the best format possible for video (and HDMI 2 getting the best format possible for audio in a "safe" video signal).

Note that when only one output is cabled the Split A/V vs. Dual Display choice is simply ignored. The handshake negotiates for best audio and video on that single HDMI connection according to what the device at the other end can accept. There is of course no possibility of conflict since you are only connecting to one device.
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I get it now.. Thanks.

So, if my projector and AVR can both receive 1080p/24 and bit stream sound, then split AV should end up with identical streams, right? That should also mean dual display mode should send out 1080p/24 and bit stream audio on both hdmi outputs, right?

I believe when I go dual display, the audio changes to LPCM on hdmi2 going to AV8801. Maybe I'm setting something wrong.
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You can test with spears and munsil, but usually the newer Denons/marantz pass the video tests fine, especially 1080p/60 and 1080p/24.

If you turn video conversion off, which i do, there should be no issue with the AVR as its just passing it thru.

I turned off video conversion. What do you set the Picture Mode to?
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I turned off video conversion. What do you set the Picture Mode to?

With conversion off I dont recall having any mode's that could be chosen?

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Not correct. There is no such thing as audio only HDMI. Audio on HDMI is multiplexed into the "blanking intervals" of video. There must ALWAYS be a video signal -- even if it is just a black screen.

The issue with using dual HDMI cabling is that the two devices you are connecting to may have different capabilities to accept HDMI formats. So the player has to decide how to prioritize things.

When you cable both HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 and have Split A/V set, then the HDMI handshake gives priority to the audio on HDMI 2. Meaning a "safe" video signal may be sent to HDMI 2 that can carry the best quality audio. Meanwhile audio is muted on HDMI 1 so that the "best" video handshake can result on HDMI 1. There will be video to BOTH HDMI 1 and HDMI 2, but the video signal may be different with HDMI 1 getting the best format possible for video (and HDMI 2 getting the best format possible for audio in a "safe" video signal).

Note that when only one output is cabled the Split A/V vs. Dual Display choice is simply ignored. The handshake negotiates for best audio and video on that single HDMI connection according to what the device at the other end can accept. There is of course no possibility of conflict since you are only connecting to one device.
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I get it now.. Thanks.

So, if my projector and AVR can both receive 1080p/24 and bit stream sound, then split AV should end up with identical streams, right? That should also mean dual display mode should send out 1080p/24 and bit stream audio on both hdmi outputs, right?

I believe when I go dual display, the audio changes to LPCM on hdmi2 going to AV8801. Maybe I'm setting something wrong.

Split A/V and Dual Display only apply when both outputs are active. Dual Display comes up with a compromise handshake that will work with both devices. Often that means stereo LPCM for audio.

Split A/V always mutes audio on HDMI 1 when both outputs are active regardless of what that device can accept.
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Is there a trick to get the native app to stream in HD? I can't get it to work no matter which movie I try. The oppo reports the stream as 384 SD.

I mean, is there a way for the Oppo to force the HD stream similar to how you can force it on PC/Mac? I'd rather wait 10 minutes for the movie to buffer and watch in HD than have it start quickly and watch in SD.
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Shocking! But it happened. A freeze-up during a Netflix Blu-Ray rental (with what I would consider very minor scratches). I couldn't stop it, pause it, skip to the next chapter, or go to a menu. I had to power down. This is why I replaced my old Pioneer BDP-51FD, which would freeze in the middle of half of my Netflix rentals. Ridiculous.

I thought Oppo's error correction would be better than this. Or is Netflix purposely sabotaging their own discs so they can go streaming exclusively?

Anybody else experiencing this?

Now I have heard everything. Why in the world would Netflix purposely sabotage their own product? Why not go one step further and say, CBS, NBC and ABC have infiltrated Netflix at the highest levels and are purposely scratching your discs to ruin your evening.

Sometimes a scratched disc is just that. Mark it as defective and return it, I for one have had only a few discs like that and I have been with Netflix since the beginning.
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Is there a trick to get the native app to stream in HD? I can't get it to work no matter which movie I try. The oppo reports the stream as 384 SD.

I mean, is there a way for the Oppo to force the HD stream similar to how you can force it on PC/Mac? I'd rather wait 10 minutes for the movie to buffer and watch in HD than have it start quickly and watch in SD.

On a properly working network and on an ISP that is not meddling with your streaming speed, the Oppo should get a 1080p stream in a few seconds. If it never achieves this it is most likely because a CDN or your ISP is throttling Netflix. A number of people both here and elsewhere online have had this issue. But it is NOT an Oppo issue and I don't believe there is any way to control the default streaming speed on the Oppo as there is on a PC/Mac.

If you wish to discuss what can be done about it I suggest this thread as people don't like Non Oppo discussions in this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1089285/netflix-streaming-quality/4140#post_24235975

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On a properly working network and on an ISP that is not meddling with your streaming speed, the Oppo should get a 1080p stream in a few seconds. If it never achieves this it is most likely because a CDN or your ISP is throttling Netflix. A number of people both here and elsewhere online have had this issue. But it is NOT an Oppo issue and I don't believe there is any way to control the default streaming speed on the Oppo as there is on a PC/Mac.

If you wish to discuss what can be done about it I suggest this thread as people don't like Non Oppo discussions in this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1089285/netflix-streaming-quality/4140#post_24235975

You can also PM me and I can give you a few Ideas.

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it. It does seem to be Comcast or Netflix itself. Getting 56Mbps down during peak but Netflix can't even manage 480P. Was hoping for a way to force HD but I imagine Netflix would frown on Oppo doing something like that.
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Well, I'd just like to say this about my first week with the oppo.

My intention as stated was to use this as a universal disc player, streamer and I was curious about the Darbee.
Curious and slightly sceptical.

Well between listening to my Beethovens SACD's and my pink floyd cd's I have been tweaking various image settings.
obsessing over audio sync etc only to finally decide it was in my head (per norm)

So I plop in Avengers again yesterday and It was one of those 'stars aligns' home theater experiences, and I was grinning from ear to ear throughout.

I have occassionaly been noticing on movies before a slight 'depth effect' now most of this is probably from my HW50 being capable to deliver a good picture but with the darbee chip on top I sometimes feel like I am watching a 3d movie although with the '3d' scaled down, only without any of the drawbacks and the quite annoying 'HEY LOOK 3d !" but enough of a depth effect that sudden camera shifts (like during a conversation scene) can become unnerving but again without the "OMG did I just teleport" shocks I get in 3d during the same scenes.

I used to run with Reality creation on and at a resolution of about 20 (slightly high) but now with darbee in hi-def and at about 35%-40% I am probably just going to turn it off, or have it at the lowest possible setting.

I also feel the Darbee helps motion flow (which I keep at low) performs a tiny bit smoother than before, but that might just be in my head again.

In short I'm loving it, and I feel I got a bargain with the Darbee that I otherwise would have had to buy separately.
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I have had 2 different ISP's over the years and the same thing happens to either one of them in reference to Netflix. I have AT&T U-verse at the moment. Every day after about 6 PM - Midnight. (I am Eastern Time Zone) I would be lucky to even get 480. Most of the time it runs between 240 and 480 during that timeframe. In the mornings I get 1080P. I even carried on a chat with AT&T and they stated that as long as I am getting my rated speed - which I do, then they say I need to check with Netflix. I shouldn't be having a problem and I should contact Netflix. My ISP speed never faltered over the last 2 years I have had them. Last night Netflix was buffering constantly because they were having problems. I really wish I knew who was throttling. There is a definite limitation somewhere. I think they may be giving their server time to foreign countries and squashing some of the US server bandwidth. At least that is what a lot of internet talk surmises.
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