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I have decided to buy a Sony Blu-Ray player and would like to confirm which model to buy.

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I have decided to buy a Sony Blu-Ray player and would like to confirm which model to buy.

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In process of buying new 55" TV (Will not be 4k)
in the $1k-1.5k range.

BDP-S5200 or BDP-S6200?

I would buy the 6200. The best Blu ray player on the market next to Oppo.
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I would buy the 6200. The best Blu ray player on the market next to Oppo.
Because I will not be buying a 4k TV, I didn't know if I needed the 4k upscaling feature of the 6200....Does that make sense?
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Because I will not be buying a 4k TV, I didn't know if I needed the 4k upscaling feature of the 6200....Does that make sense?


6200 is not just about 4k. It has dual core processor that makes interface and UI more responsive. With the current sale price, it's a no brainer.
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I would buy the 6200. The best Blu ray player on the market next to Oppo.
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6200 is not just about 4k. It has dual core processor that makes interface and UI more responsive. With the current sale price, it's a no brainer.
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Because I will not be buying a 4k TV, I didn't know if I needed the 4k upscaling feature of the 6200....Does that make sense?
I'm sure most of the people are still using 1080p TVs or projectors with S6200. I always take it like this, buy a 3D TV, even I'll be watching less in 3D, the technology in that TV will make even the 2D looks better than TVs without 3D feature. In case you want to try out a 3D version of a movie, you don't have to think twice. Same goes for the Blu-ray player. In future if I buy a 4K TV, at least I'll be able to test out the 4K upscaling feature of the S6200. Btw, don't get confused with native 4K, because this Ayer won't do that its still using hdmi 1.4 version for native 4K you need to have hdmi 2.0 version.

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Besides for a 4K set, I would expect the scaler in a several thousand dollar 4K set to be better than a $150 BD player.

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Thank you. SOLD!
Good call. You won't be disappointed.
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Anyone know if they have added Amazon instant streaming yet?
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Anyone know if they have added Amazon instant streaming yet?
Yes, they have...but several have reported that the app is less-than-stellar.

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6200 is not just about 4k. It has dual core processor that makes interface and UI more responsive. With the current sale price, it's a no brainer.
Hi Foxbat, as I mentioned above I am having trouble with my s6200 to best PQ of s5100. Irrespective of the dual-core processor. In fact, the most smarts of s6200 seem to be going into the AUTO setting, which looks horrible for DVDs. What settings are you using with s6200 and do you know what those settings do? In particular, in terms of picture processing with dual core processor?

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Sorry, I don't own 6200.
As I understand, the dual-core processor inside the 6200 significantly speeds up the UI responsiveness, e.g. less lag, not so much about video processing which is typically handled by dedicated chipset.
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Yes, they have...but several have reported that the app is less-than-stellar.
The app has been out since April or march I think. The app works fine, but it is sluggish. I just wonder how it is on the lower players that don't have a dual core processor. On the 6200 you would think it's only using one core or something. It is sluggish but is still usable. But for Amazon streaming, nothing beats the speed and responsiveness of the FireTv.

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OK, after doing further testing of PQ between Oppo BDP-103 and Sony BDP-S6200, Oppo was better when it comes to detailing and sharpness of the video. For reference, I paused the 'Battlefield' Blu-ray video exactly at the same time stamp and even used forward it frame by frame to match the exact timing on each player. I clearly saw the difference in clarity and sharpness and my wife who's not too much into these things, she too did see the difference. I have attached the jpeg file for reference.

Look closely to the beard and the cheeks. Oppo did better job at retaining the details but Sony did otherwise.

Btw, the video setting for Sony was on 'Direct' and Oppo was at whatever the default it comes with.

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You're not using an Oppo 103D are you? The difference looks (to my eyes, anyway) similar to what the DarbeeVision Darblet does.

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You're not using an Oppo 103D are you? The difference looks (to my eyes, anyway) similar to what the DarbeeVision Darblet does.
Nope. It's the regular Oppo 103.
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No offense, but when I blow them up the Oppo image is showing me pixel structure or the screen itself, and the other shows none of that. It tells me one looks sharper than the other due to how the camera took each image.

If you look at the Oppo image close, to the left of his mouth in the light areas, you can see an obvious and continuous pattern. That same pattern is nonexistent in the Sony image.

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Sorry, I don't own 6200.
As I understand, the dual-core processor inside the 6200 significantly speeds up the UI responsiveness, e.g. less lag, not so much about video processing which is typically handled by dedicated chipset.
"Significantly" is a bit of a stretch. On Apps that are more of a CPU overhead for a variety of reasons, such as the new Netflix and Youtube leanback apps, you notice a small improvement. XMB navigation is also improved when browsing DLNA folders with a large number of files that have long names.

Marketing always have to come up with something to get you to buy the more expensive product. The CPU improvement is quite marginal in this case.

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"Significantly" is a bit of a stretch. On Apps that are more of a CPU overhead for a variety of reasons, such as the new Netflix and Youtube leanback apps, you notice a small improvement. XMB navigation is also improved when browsing DLNA folders with a large number of files that have long names.

Marketing always have to come up with something to get you to buy the more expensive product. The CPU improvement is quite marginal in this case.
BD JAva loading is also quicker on the S6200 with the dual core CPU than it is on my S5100s with a single core.
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Well after going through the 3 blu ray players i.e. Sony S6200, Oppo 103, and Panasonic BDT460. I've finally decided to keep Sony. Even though there are some features that I'll be missing when compared to Oppo. Seriously Panasonic needs to rethink their UI. It's horrible for my taste. Subtitle didn't work with mkv. It doesn't even support chapter skip in the mkv video. Though it'll decode Dolby TrueHD without any issues. Sony doesn't support Dolby TrueHD support with mkv file and with m2ts, it only support 2.0 stereo for DLNA or USB attached files.
In the mean time I'll keep Sony and be happy. But most likely but the next iteration of Oppo blu ray player for sure.

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Id bet they release an HDMI 2.0 Oppo this October.

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Unhappy Core madness

It is so frustrating...all the talk of dual-core and quad-core, when they're already offering Octa-core in Europe!! And probably China!
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Sony XBR TVs are now using octa-core.

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On the Oppo thread some says that a new blu ray player will be released in 2016. Anyway, I'm not worried about the HDMI 2.0 yet. Since I'm not in the market looking for 4K TV. Until and unless something really goes wrong with my current TV.

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Just had my new 6200 flake out. Started watching the 1941 Wolfman blu ray and the movie was skipping. Went back to the disc menu, which also skipped and froze. This sent me back to the cross bar. Disc would not eject. Turned player off and on and the disc was no longer showing up, even though it was still inside. Turned off quick start and rebooted. Now the player works fine. I'm still a little worried about my discs getting stuck now. The last three Sony players I've bought have all had quirks requiring unplugging to fix. Not impressed with Sony quality control.
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So far I have not run across an issue like that with both of my S5100's or both of my S6200's.

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My 6200 just seems to play blu-rays without issue. That is what I want, a player that pays blu-rays reliably AND accurately.
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Just had my new 6200 flake out. Started watching the 1941 Wolfman blu ray and the movie was skipping. Went back to the disc menu, which also skipped and froze. This sent me back to the cross bar. Disc would not eject. Turned player off and on and the disc was no longer showing up, even though it was still inside. Turned off quick start and rebooted. Now the player works fine. I'm still a little worried about my discs getting stuck now. The last three Sony players I've bought have all had quirks requiring unplugging to fix. Not impressed with Sony quality control.
Quick start seems to be buggy. I tried the miracast feature, which didn't work with Nexus 5 and I was back on XMB. Next time when I played a mkv video, it lost the top and bottom black bars and completely filled the screen. Some of the remux files that are not cropped were working fine. Initially I didn't know what the issue was. disabled quick start and restarted the player. Then when I played the same file again it was working fine. To find out the root cause I again tried miracast, which again didn't work and the video was stretched out again.
Solution, I have disabled quick start to rectify any issues this may cause in future for anything else.
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I've always disabled that feature on all my players. For some reason there seems to be more quirks.

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I always enable quick start. No issues here. But I also don't play any local files. I only use the streaming apps and play BDs.
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