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I just opted to buy a 1200 for the bedroom. 6200 is more than enough for my HT, and the 1200 will serve nicely as a streamer. Router is right there so I can just run a short eth cable and let er rip.
Good choice I think. I may do the same.
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Since I did not need wifi, I just didn't see a reason to buy the 3200 for this use.
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For that price difference, I would get the 5200 and be done with it.
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Flipper is right. $400 is way too much for a machine that is so very close to the 6200, currently selling for around $150. $400 is also way too close to the price of an Oppo.
The other machine of which you refer, is the bottom of the line model. From that point, pricing gets absurd.

Don't forget that the BDP-S7200 is Sony's flagship model.
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its literally the same machine. the unit feels quality akin to the 790 if you have ever had that. solid, has some heft, but the GUI is the same. the options are the same.

Out of the box there was an update from .0112 to .0116. no idea what was updated.

if I go into the netflix settings (the sprocket on the netflix gui) it registers the 7200 as the bdp-s6200. now this could be because i have the 6200 and the server needs to update once the unit has been online. i will check this in a couple days to see if its changed.

of course i always use quick start, and it DOES seem quickstart is faster to boot up than the 6200. i press the button and the sucker turns on and goes to the home page before my finger has totally lifted off the power button. my media servers are near instant displayed on screen also. I do have this unit wired.

i will move the 6200 into a different room.


let me stress, the BUILD QUALITY is EXACTLY what one expects from a top of the line player. I moved the directv box to a different shelf just so this machine can have its own shelf.





the ASIN is B00LBENEFM.

Linky: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BDPS7200-.../dp/B00LBENEFM
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That quickstart sounds the same as my S6200's. Both of them are pretty much instant. The screen pops up instantly when I hit the power button. Before I've lifted my finger off of the button the home screen is up.

There would need to be some major difference with the S7200 to justify the higher price. So far no one has been able to pin point it except for the build quality. My S6200's build seems like my S5100s were and those are still fine. Now granted I do prefer the rectangular look. Especially so I can stack other components on top. But that isn't worth several hundred extra to me. Especially for a device that I will replace every one to two years anyway.
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Looking to get a Bluray player to replace a dead PS3. The Sony S4200 is the sort of budget/spec I want but not sure about its MKV playback. I would like to play MKV files on my PC that have DD/DTS/AAC and also subtitles muxed in or as a separate file.

After downloading the manual it seems that it might not like DTS in a MKV file over DLNA. Also the subtitle support is vague. Has anyone tried these formats with this player (or S5200) and can provide real world info ?

I will be using a wired connection with homeplugs and a Samsung TV so don't care about WiFi or the other 5200 features.
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Just looked up the 7200 on the net and I like the design. It looks solidly built but while scrolling through the features it don't differ very much from the S6200 that I now have. But think Sony should have went with the 7200's design and did the same with the 6200. Oh well cant always get what we want can we?
This on going obsession with build quality makes no sense.

The 6200, as well as the rest of Sony's Blu-ray players, are strong enough to survive being shipped to your home in minimal packaging. They're not delicate flowers.

If it can survive that, what are you so worried about happening in your home?
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You will note I did not say anything about Netflix, I said Amazon HD.

My Roku 3 and Fire TV Amazon PQ is fantastic, and they both do Netflix well. Its an obviously better choice for me than a device that does one equal or better, and one worse. Meaning, The 6200 is subpar at Amazon and good at Netflix, while the boxes are good at both.
I think that the PQ on Amazon is as good as any other device, it just can take up to two minutes until it gets to optimal quality, where as the Netflix app typically starts up already at that point.

And the navigation in the menu system is sluggish.
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Looking to get a Bluray player to replace a dead PS3. The Sony S4200 is the sort of budget/spec I want but not sure about its MKV playback. I would like to play MKV files on my PC that have DD/DTS/AAC and also subtitles muxed in or as a separate file.
It will do all of the above except subs in a separate file.
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This on going obsession with build quality makes no sense.

The 6200, as well as the rest of Sony's Blu-ray players, are strong enough to survive being shipped to your home in minimal packaging. They're not delicate flowers.

If it can survive that, what are you so worried about happening in your home?
FWIW, I want my kit to last longer that two years, which is the length of time my BDP-S770 lasted when it had to be quickly replaced by my current BDP-S790 in late 2012.

Your continual whinging of other posters here, makes no sense either. Why aren't you whinging of the Oppo fanatics? They're devoted to quality kit, as well.

Get over it and move on.
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i'll reiterate for the late comers to the thread.

the 7200 has top notch build quality. solid. substantial weight for a device of this nature. classy. looks good next to your brand new 4K display and big receiver with CLASS A switching transformers..

however, if you do not need the physical aesthetics, the 6200 is the top of the line unit just as the 7200 and the 6200 and 7200 do the exact same functions. not even worth wasting gift cards or whatever to get this lower in price--just get the 6200.

i am an early adopter and i take risks and i purchase new gear and once this was known to be avail locally, i picked it up to help others decide on whats important to them, and to squash any issues saying the 7200 has more features than the 6200.

even on the netflix app, it registers the player as a 6200!

I am happy to test anything anyone wants to know.
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FWIW, I want my kit to last longer that two years, which is the length of time my BDP-S770 lasted when it had to be quickly replaced by my current BDP-S790 in late 2012.

Your continual whinging of other posters here, makes no sense either. Why aren't you whinging of the Oppo fanatics? They're devoted to quality kit, as well.

Get over it and move on.
That's exactly my point about the absurdity of this complaint -- in what way does the outside housing having any bearing on the quality of the internal components? How does the housing make the internals last longer?

I don't discount your desire to have a player that lasts more than two years -- but in that case, let's talk about what's inside the box that's prone to failure, such as the transport and laser. I don't see anyone talking about.

The reason I'm "whinging" on this issue is because posters are making it sound like the 6200 is going to shatter into a million pieces if a feather falls on it. It's a disservice to people looking for information to help them determine which Blu-ray player to buy. They're going to see this thread and think they're lucky if the 6200 ships from the factory to their home in one piece.
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This on going obsession with build quality makes no sense.

The 6200, as well as the rest of Sony's Blu-ray players, are strong enough to survive being shipped to your home in minimal packaging. They're not delicate flowers.

If it can survive that, what are you so worried about happening in your home?

Where the hell did I say that the design of the 6200 was a delicate flower or couldn't survive being shipped to your home? All I said was that I wish Sony would have went with the same design as the 7200. I just like the flat design of the 7200 but I also like the design of the 6200 as well. If I didn't I would have bought one! Jesus take a pill for gods sake!!!!!
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I noticed my app for Netflix updated tonight and now the icon looks different. Performance on one tv show and one movie stunk, but Im assuming it is not related. Best I could do was 480 sd most of the time, but got a few "there is a problem playing this back try again later" type popups. Ive tested my DSL connection in several ways and it is hitting the normal and steady 5.75 down. I usually get superhd on stuff so Im guessing maybe it was on Netflix's side.
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yes the icon was different on the 7200 when i first powered it up before the update.

ive not seen any changes with quality--still the same as on the 6200. i have been watching movies all day and am now watching an ESPN 30 for 30 flick and the quality is per usual.

im on fios and the 7200 is wired.
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yes the icon was different on the 7200 when i first powered it up before the update.

ive not seen any changes with quality--still the same as on the 6200. i have been watching movies all day and am now watching an ESPN 30 for 30 flick and the quality is per usual.

im on fios and the 7200 is wired.
I dunno, I easily get 1080p on the 6200 normally, but not being able to get more than 384/480 with my speeds testing out fine seems like something was up.

I used the vudu app, 4 different speed tests on my laptop, and one on my cell viz wifi, and they all hit high 5's for download speed.
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yes the icon was different on the 7200 when i first powered it up before the update.

ive not seen any changes with quality--still the same as on the 6200. i have been watching movies all day and am now watching an ESPN 30 for 30 flick and the quality is per usual.

im on fios and the 7200 is wired.
Does it support 24p for streaming video files or is it same as S6200 ie 60p.

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Anyone having an issue of accessing the apps on their 6200's? Every time I try mine its says there's a server issue.
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Anyone having an issue of accessing the apps on their 6200's? Every time I try mine its says there's a server issue.
I just tried Netflix, Amazon, Hulu+, and Vudu and they all loaded.

I do see that the Netflix logo changed to the new one. With red lettering on a white background.
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Anyone having an issue of accessing the apps on their 6200's? Every time I try mine its says there's a server issue.
I just tried almost everything and received no errors. Google, Opera and Pandora worked, to name a few. So did facebook. Could you be more specific?
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I just tried almost everything and received no errors. Google, Opera and Pandora worked, to name a few. So did facebook. Could you be more specific?


What the problem is Joe is that when I go to click on one of the app's it says "Server Issue". I may have to contact Sony.
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What the problem is Joe is that when I go to click on one of the app's it says "Server Issue". I may have to contact Sony.
If you haven't registered the unit at Sony Essentials yet I would give that a shot. It may not help but......
https://internet.sony.tv/customer/te...Done/LoginUser


Sometimes there is a delay after turning the product on before the network is fully up also. I never saw a "Server Issue" error.
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Looking to get a Bluray player to replace a dead PS3. The Sony S4200 is the sort of budget/spec I want but not sure about its MKV playback. I would like to play MKV files on my PC that have DD/DTS/AAC and also subtitles muxed in or as a separate file.

After downloading the manual it seems that it might not like DTS in a MKV file over DLNA. Also the subtitle support is vague. Has anyone tried these formats with this player (or S5200) and can provide real world info ?

I will be using a wired connection with homeplugs and a Samsung TV so don't care about WiFi or the other 5200 features.
I don't know about S5200, but with S6200 it can play DTS-MA in MKV file without any issues. It also support chapters and .srt subtitle in MKV file over DLNA or local USB based drive. With Dolby TrueHD, you are out of luck in MKV. Video will play but no sound track. And suppose you have 2 sound track like DD TrueHD and DTS-MA/Core, it'll again give you problem with the audio, until and unless DD TrueHD is not the default audio. You can use MKVMerge to and remux the file by putting the DTS-MA/core audio as the primary and DD TrueHD as secondary.
With m2ts file, it supports PGS/sup for subtitle and DTS-MA/Core and Dolby TrueHD (though only 2.0 for DD TrueHD).
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I've got an S6200 and was going to run the WoW Pixel Flipper for a bit.

However there doesn't seem to be an option to disable the auto off 'feature' of the player so it only runs for 15 minutes and then the thing shuts off.

Is there a way to disable this?
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i'll reiterate for the late comers to the thread.

the 7200 has top notch build quality. solid. substantial weight for a device of this nature. classy. looks good next to your brand new 4K display and big receiver with CLASS A switching transformers..

however, if you do not need the physical aesthetics, the 6200 is the top of the line unit just as the 7200 and the 6200 and 7200 do the exact same functions. not even worth wasting gift cards or whatever to get this lower in price--just get the 6200.

i am an early adopter and i take risks and i purchase new gear and once this was known to be avail locally, i picked it up to help others decide on whats important to them, and to squash any issues saying the 7200 has more features than the 6200.

even on the netflix app, it registers the player as a 6200!

I am happy to test anything anyone wants to know.
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That's exactly my point about the absurdity of this complaint -- in what way does the outside housing having any bearing on the quality of the internal components? How does the housing make the internals last longer?

I don't discount your desire to have a player that lasts more than two years -- but in that case, let's talk about what's inside the box that's prone to failure, such as the transport and laser. I don't see anyone talking about.

The reason I'm "whinging" on this issue is because posters are making it sound like the 6200 is going to shatter into a million pieces if a feather falls on it. It's a disservice to people looking for information to help them determine which Blu-ray player to buy. They're going to see this thread and think they're lucky if the 6200 ships from the factory to their home in one piece.
It's foolish to assume that the S7200 existence is based solely on aesthetics. For that price increase, I would expect better internal components, cooling and QA selection to reduce failure rates, as well. We won't know if this will be the case until a professional review emerges of it.

To satisfy your curiosity, BDP-S770 wasn't a complete failure. It was a problem of intermittent drop-outs of either DSD bit-stream or decimated DSD PCM during SA-CD playback. It was enough of a failure though to sack the machine, as that feature was the main reason I purchased it at the time.

That said, your point of including discussion of internal components in user posts is well taken. It's something that's quite lacking generally at this site. I believe most here would prefer to have this when possible, instead just the bog-standard aesthetic and apps discussions that are the mainstay here. That might help to rectify longevity issues that might surface in future.
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That said, your point of including discussion of internal components in user posts is well taken. It's something that's quite lacking generally at this site. I believe most here would prefer to have this when possible, instead just the bog-standard aesthetic and apps discussions that are the mainstay here. That might help to rectify longevity issues that might surface in future.
It would be interesting to compare the internals of the whole line -- it wouldn't shock me if they're all identical (maybe missing a chip here and there), and Sony just shuts off functionality on the lower end model. It seems like it would be a lot cheaper to just mass produce one set of internals rather than multiple variations.
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Look I am happy to open the 7200 and post photos of anything.

I would be surprised if it had internal cooling and also surprised if the internals were drastically different.

If someone will link up photos of the 6200 I'll gladly take off the cover of the 7200.

Don't be surprised if they are the same... :-)
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Got the 1200 setup in the bedroom direct connected to DSL modem. Im still having Netflix issues on both units, most of the time the best I can get is 480 SD, where all speed tests, Vudu app, speedtest app on Roku, all report 5.6 mbps down and steady. After a few seconds stuff on Amazon prime clicks over to HD and stays and it looks great. Every now and then I get 720p but it is rare, Ive been testing all kinds of programming.

There is even a test video on Netflix you can use from a laptop to see how far your connection will allow it to ramp up (has a bitrate meter on screen like the sony), and I hit 4300 1080p level without issue. Not sure what the heck is going on.
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