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I tried it. It defintely has an effect, one that I decided I did not like.

The good, it can enhance the sharpness of blu-ray (if you feel you need it), owners will tell you the better the source the better it works.

The bad, on some like Dish/Directv with some compression artifacts, the Darblet can make things look worse. I would see added artifacts in compression noise with it on, so I felt no need to keep it for that $$$ just for blu-ray.

I later had the 103D, and came to the same conclusion, so i left it off.
Unfortunately I guess you are in the 1% of people that don't like the Darbee processing. It seems like 99% of the people do. For me I have never seen so much for so little. For what it does the Darblet is extremely inexpensive compared to products in years past.
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Oh yeah, and the 99% violently defend it against statements like what I made above, but yet they all say "the better the source the better it works". Makes me LOL.

If I only cut it on for blu-ray, Id be all for it, but once again, I do not feel the need for edge/sharpness enhancement on blu-ray. Now I know it isnt sharpness in the traditional sense, but its similar. Anyways, Im off topic so Ill drop it as Ive been down this road before with Darbee as a subject.
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Sorry but the 6200 and the 7200 are the exact same except for the out side appearance. As far as matching Oppo's pic and audio quality they come very very close.
It looks like the 7200 also specifically lists support for ALAC, AIFF, DSD, and DTS Neo6:Music which are not mentioned in the specs for the 6200. I guess the ALAC and AIFF support would be useful for those who use Apple lossless codecs instead of FLAC, for whatever reason. I thought that DTS Neo6:Music was just a surround processing mode. Is there content that is actually mixed and encoded in DTS Neo6? As far as DSD goes, this seems a little unclear. I thought that the 6200 could play SA-CD's which use DSD. Was I wrong about that? Perhaps it adds support for playback of DSD files from USB or DLNA?

According to the Q & A response on Amazon.com, the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is correct or not.

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It looks like the 7200 also specifically lists support for ALAC, AIFF, DSD, and DTS Neo6:Music which are not mentioned in the specs for the 6200. I guess the ALAC and AIFF support would be useful for those who use Apple lossless codecs instead of FLAC, for whatever reason. I thought that DTS Neo6:Music was just a surround processing mode. Is there content that is actually mixed and encoded in DTS Neo6? As far as DSD goes, this seems a little unclear. I thought that the 6200 could play SA-CD's which use DSD. Was I wrong about that? Perhaps it adds support for playback of DSD files from USB or DLNA?

According to the Q & A response on Amazon.com, the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is correct or not.
The S6200, just like the S5100, will play SACD titles and send DSD over HDMI.
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It looks like the 7200 also specifically lists support for ALAC, AIFF, DSD, and DTS Neo6:Music which are not mentioned in the specs for the 6200. I guess the ALAC and AIFF support would be useful for those who use Apple lossless codecs instead of FLAC, for whatever reason. I thought that DTS Neo6:Music was just a surround processing mode. Is there content that is actually mixed and encoded in DTS Neo6? As far as DSD goes, this seems a little unclear. I thought that the 6200 could play SA-CD's which use DSD. Was I wrong about that? Perhaps it adds support for playback of DSD files from USB or DLNA?

According to the Q & A response on Amazon.com, the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is correct or not.
The 6200 supports all that you listed. The playable files for the 6200 and 7200 are identical as per their manuals which are available via Sony's website(s). Again, (so far) the 6200 and 7200 are identical except for the housing. All that is left is for the actual internals to be compared.
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And I'm ready to open the box if someone wants to open up a 6200 to compare.
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So I was reading the specs on the s5200, s6200, and s7200 and saw that they were all listed as "Dolby® : Dolby True HD decoding (2Ch)"

I have an HT-ST7 and a 55w950b. What I don't understand is that if I get one of those blu ray players I can't take an advantage of the 7.1 output from the HT-ST7 because of Dolby® : Dolby True HD decoding (2Ch)??

Or am I reading something wrong here? Sorry I'm new to this lol
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So I was reading the specs on the s5200, s6200, and s7200 and saw that they were all listed as "Dolby® : Dolby True HD decoding (2Ch)"

I have an HT-ST7 and a 55w950b. What I don't understand is that if I get one of those blu ray players I can't take an advantage of the 7.1 output from the HT-ST7 because of Dolby® : Dolby True HD decoding (2Ch)??

Or am I reading something wrong here? Sorry I'm new to this lol
If you let the player do the decoding, then it will only decode 2CH for True HD or Dolby. However, since you receiver decodes up to 7.1, then all you have to do is set the player to Bitstream and you should be okay since your receiver will take care of the decoding.
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And I'm ready to open the box if someone wants to open up a 6200 to compare.

No thanks! lol
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If you let the player do the decoding, then it will only decode 2CH for True HD or Dolby. However, since you receiver decodes up to 7.1, then all you have to do is set the player to Bitstream and you should be okay since your receiver will take care of the decoding.
Okay thanks!!
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So I was researching on the 2014 blu ray player lineup and have one question.

Do all the models produce the same picture quality with BLU RAY discs? Like if I went with a 1200 instead of a 5200/6200

They all support X.V color (triluminus feature if I'm correct)

I understand that the IP Noise reduction feature is only for streamed content (which in this case won't matter to me)

And the only differences that I can find are WiFi, 3D, and 4k upscaling. (Which also won't matter to me)
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So I was researching on the 2014 blu ray player lineup and have one question.

Do all the models produce the same picture quality with BLU RAY discs? Like if I went with a 1200 instead of a 5200/6200

They all support X.V color (triluminus feature if I'm correct)

I understand that the IP Noise reduction feature is only for streamed content (which in this case won't matter to me)

And the only differences that I can find are WiFi, 3D, and 4k upscaling. (Which also won't matter to me)
The 6200 & 7200 also have dual processors, which the lower versions do not. This should result in a speedier interface for streaming apps and DLNA content; possibly even for disc loading times, but not sure how big of a difference it makes.
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The 6200 & 7200 also have dual processors, which the lower versions do not. This should result in a speedier interface for streaming apps and DLNA content; possibly even for disc loading times, but not sure how big of a difference it makes.
To answer the question, I'm assuming that the 6200 has no difference in blu ray picture compared to the 1200? :\
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To answer the question, I'm assuming that the 6200 has no difference in blu ray picture compared to the 1200? :\
Correct.
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With the PS4 finally getting an update to include support for 3D Blu-Ray playback, is there any reason to believe that it could be competitive with a BDP-6200 for Blu-Ray/DVD/SACD playback?

The reviews I saw of the PS4's disc playback capabilities at launch were pretty harsh. Aside from the 3D fiasco, it didn't do well with 24p playback (especially with certain formats), deinterlacing, DVD upconversion, etc. I couldn't find a list of specific formats that it did not support with regards to audio and video playback from disc, local storage, etc. All I saw was a blanket statement saying that it was "lacking".

I'm mostly trying to figure out if it is likely to improve over time to a point where it would eventually pass current Sony players in all respects. It seems like the PS3 kept pace with the majority of players pretty well over the coarse of the years and was supported for a much longer period of time than your typical BD player. So far, the PS4 does not seem to be following in its predecessors footsteps. Right now the only point in its favor is that it might be updated to support 4K Blu-Ray if/when that happens and perhaps some 4K streaming services, which makes it a bit more future proof than your average player. But if it's playback quality for 1080p content and below is crap and it doesn't measure up to dedicated 4K players if/when those are released then I'm not sure it is worth it.

Let's say that you never play games and have both a laptop w/ HDMI out and Roku3 for DLNA and streaming purposes. Hypothetically, if you had $400 to spend right now and you knew for a fact that 4K Blu-Ray would be released in late 2015/early 2016, would you...

A) buy a Sony BDP-6200 now and use the remaining $220 to purchase movies and music, knowing that you will have to replace your player in two years, or
B) buy a Playstation 4 now and hope that its disc playback capabilities are improved over the coarse of the next 8-10 years (or whenever the PS5 comes out) to be competitive with dedicated players?
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The 6200 & 7200 also have dual processors, which the lower versions do not. This should result in a speedier interface for streaming apps and DLNA content; possibly even for disc loading times, but not sure how big of a difference it makes.
At least when compared to the S5100, having the dual processor can make a difference in loading the java stuff from the disc. With the S5100 you would see the progress bar on many titles and it might take a second or three. While with the S6200 that loading screen might be up for a split second.
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To answer the question, I'm assuming that the 6200 has no difference in blu ray picture compared to the 1200? :\

I see no reason to think otherwise, unless the picture is being processed by the player in some way. The higher end models may have more picture tweaks available, but with all enhancements off, the PQ of the 1200 should look the same as the 6200.
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At least when compared to the S5100, having the dual processor can make a difference in loading the java stuff from the disc. With the S5100 you would see the progress bar on many titles and it might take a second or three. While with the S6200 that loading screen might be up for a split second.
We've being through this so many times I've lost count. The dual core processor makes little to no difference. It's just a bunch of marketing babble by Sony.

When the s790 was launched we saw only minor improvements in the xmb for navigation and a slight improvement with the lean back youtube interface.
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We've being through this so many times I've lost count. The dual core processor makes little to no difference. It's just a bunch of marketing babble by Sony.

When the s790 was launched we saw only minor improvements in the xmb for navigation and a slight improvement with the lean back youtube interface.
WIth the Java loading it can make a big difference. Split second loading compared to a few seconds.
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im looking to purchase the 5200 today (slight discount), was reading some reviews, mostly good, however, how is the netflix functionality? some reviews state that its a bit slow, can anyone comment on the netflix portion of the player?
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What are the big differences between the 6200 and the 7200? Are these players better than the Sony s790?
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What are the big differences between the 6200 and the 7200? Are these players better than the Sony s790?
The only differences between the two seems to be the casing itself and perhaps build quality (?).
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just scroll through the last few pages to get soem discussion. this has been beaten to death.

i had the 6200 and now have the 7200 to try and help others in decisions.

as stated, if you want the aesthetics and want to pay the extra ends, get the 7200. if you dont need the looks, get the 6200. they are both functionally the same. the 6200 is made with recycled plastics (scroll up as I posted a link to sony's site about this) to help the earth, so if you are feeling "Earthy" get the 6200!

choice is yours. you will get the same pic quality from both.


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just scroll through the last few pages to get soem discussion. this has been beaten to death.

i had the 6200 and now have the 7200 to try and help others in decisions.

as stated, if you want the aesthetics and want to pay the extra ends, get the 7200. if you dont need the looks, get the 6200. they are both functionally the same. the 6200 is made with recycled plastics (scroll up as I posted a link to sony's site about this) to help the earth, so if you are feeling "Earthy" get the 6200!

choice is yours. you will get the same pic quality from both.
Do you own any Blu-Ray discs that use a different region code, Marc? It is rumored that the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is true. If you had discs from North America, Europe, and Asia it would be fairly easy to check.
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Sony's website is just terrible when it comes to comparing specs or even getting reliable information. For instance, if you look at Sony Asia's ( http://www.sony-asia.com/product/bdp-s7200 ) marketing specs on the S7200, you will see this gem...

"The Sony BDP-S7200 Blu-ray Disc™ Player doesn't just play 4K resolution content, it also upscales lower resolution content to near 4K resolution. Pair it with your 4K-enabled TV or projector so you can enjoy the best possible picture quality."

Exactly what native 4K content does it play? Photos, perhaps?
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Do you own any Blu-Ray discs that use a different region code, Marc? It is rumored that the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is true. If you had discs from North America, Europe, and Asia it would be fairly easy to check.
I also have the S7200. I have some region B blus and it did not play on the S7200. It also did not covert PAL content. So, no, the player is not region free.
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Do you own any Blu-Ray discs that use a different region code, Marc? It is rumored that the 7200 is multi-region, but I don't know if that is true. If you had discs from North America, Europe, and Asia it would be fairly easy to check.
But how many Blu-ray discs are actually region coded? I do have several titles from the UK and they have always played in any BD player I've used.

The last BD I I got from the UK was the Disney Title "Frozen". It played in my S5100 and my S6200.
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But how many Blu-ray discs are actually region coded? I do have several titles from the UK and they have always played in any BD player I've used.

The last BD I I got from the UK was the Disney Title "Frozen". It played in my S5100 and my S6200.
It's true that there's a lot of BD's that are region free, mostly Warner, Paramount and Universal, but there's also a lot of region B locked titles. Usually these comes from smaller companies, like Arrow in the UK. I have a few UK imports that are region Locked.
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Sony's website is just terrible when it comes to comparing specs or even getting reliable information. For instance, if you look at Sony Asia's ( http://www.sony-asia.com/product/bdp-s7200 ) marketing specs on the S7200, you will see this gem...

"The Sony BDP-S7200 Blu-ray Disc™ Player doesn't just play 4K resolution content, it also upscales lower resolution content to near 4K resolution. Pair it with your 4K-enabled TV or projector so you can enjoy the best possible picture quality."

Exactly what native 4K content does it play? Photos, perhaps?
This was all brought up before in this thread.
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