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Does this with Avatar is 3D too. I used another port on the TV with another cable. Towards the end of the movie it seemed to do it a lot less though. It's really weird and I'm pretty disappointed if this is some limitation with the 6200 not handling some sort of deep color or something else.

Anybody more technically savvy have a clue why I'm seeing this cool to warm switching in 3D?

Never have I experienced this issue with my 6200 while watching Avatar or any other 3D Blu ray movie. Strange. My 6200 plays everything I throw at it.
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Looks like the 7200 has dropped to $298 at Amazon.
I see the S6200 is also around $148. So a $150 increase isn't as bad as the retail price difference. But still alot for just a different enclosure.

I like how they mention a dual core processor in the title of the S7200 on Amazon. But it is omitted in the title of the S6200.

Of course if they were close to the same price I would pick up the S7200 only so that I could stack other components on the flat top.
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got the 5200, havent opened it yet, looks like the 6200 just went down in price this week, is it worth the extra 30$ for the 6200? i can still return mine and get the other one.
ill be mostly watching BD's and using netflix.

nevermind, found a post with the differences. will go with the 6200.

my other question is, if i connect this to the CT370 and set it to bitstream, it should decode dolby true HD properly?
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Never have I experienced this issue with my 6200 while watching Avatar or any other 3D Blu ray movie. Strange. My 6200 plays everything I throw at it.
Steve, I hooked the player up to my W900 and it works fine with any cable. Also I brought my PS4 into the bedroom and hooked it up to the F8500. Issue IS present with any cable.

Basically I need to be moaning in the 8500 thread. It's curious, if you use the F8500 to convert a 3D disc to 2D playback, the colors stay true. And if you use it to convert 2D to 3D it shows the same issue. It's seems to be purely in Samsung's 3D processing.

wtf Samsung.
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How does the Sony BD players compare to the Oppo 103.....I'm want the best player for Blu-Ray 4K upscale...Thanks

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How does the Sony BD players compare to the Oppo 103.....I'm want the best player for Blu-Ray 4K upscale...Thanks
Won't the UHD display do a better job?
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Partially true. The Sony internally decodes True HD/Dolby but only 2 channels. However, it does fully internally decodes DTS and DTS HD Master as LCPM.
I have experienced still more strange situation as following.

When setting AVR audio decoding to AUTO, ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 5.1 or 7.1 ch 48kHz sampling audio track is decoded to 2ch PCM, while original Blu-ray disk is decoded to 5.1 ch or 7.1 ch correctly, and another ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 7.1 ch 96kHz sampling audio track is decoded to
7.1 ch correctly.


How can I interpret above situation?
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I have experienced still more strange situation as following.

When setting AVR audio decoding to AUTO, ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 5.1 or 7.1 ch 48kHz sampling audio track is decoded to 2ch PCM, while original Blu-ray disk is decoded to 5.1 ch or 7.1 ch correctly, and another ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 7.1 ch 96kHz sampling audio track is decoded to
7.1 ch correctly.


How can I interpret above situation?
Are you bit-streaming the audio to the AVR? Are the player and AVR connected via HDMI? Do have "BD Audio Mix" set to "OFF" in the player settings? What AVR are you using?
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Are you bit-streaming the audio to the AVR? Are the player and AVR connected via HDMI? Do have "BD Audio Mix" set to "OFF" in the player settings? What AVR are you using?

Yes, I am bit-streaming the audio to the AVR ( Sony TA-DA5700ES, Japanease model number ) via HDMI and set "BD Audio Mix" set to "OFF" in the player settings.
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Won't the UHD display do a better job?
I was asking because i haven't got my UHD display yet, I'm one of the many waiting on the Vizio P series(This Fall)....But i was just wondering how Sony upscalier stack up to the Oppo's 103 & 105.

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I have experienced still more strange situation as following.

When setting AVR audio decoding to AUTO, ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 5.1 or 7.1 ch 48kHz sampling audio track is decoded to 2ch PCM, while original Blu-ray disk is decoded to 5.1 ch or 7.1 ch correctly, and another ripped m2ts file that contain Dolby True HD 7.1 ch 96kHz sampling audio track is decoded to
7.1 ch correctly.



How can I interpret above situation?
I've also noticed this, I have no explanation as to why its like that.
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Why are all these players lumped into one "Official" Topic. Some of these players are far different than each other. Finding information on the player you want is impossible. Seems to be popular to those that want to start an Official thread.

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Why are all these players lumped into one "Official" Topic. Some of these players are far different than each other. Finding information on the player you want is impossible. Seems to be popular to those that want to start an Official thread.
There are more similarities than differences across the line, so consolidating minimizes questions from having to be answered multiple times and puts all the info in one place for everybody. Though the many pages of info is daunting initially, once you get caught up, you can subscribe and get updates which are helpful for monitoring software updates, etc.

Did you have a question about one of the players that you wanted to ask?
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Why are all these players lumped into one "Official" Topic. Some of these players are far different than each other. Finding information on the player you want is impossible. Seems to be popular to those that want to start an Official thread.
I submitted some things to make finding info easier for addition to the first post...if deemed useable it might get added soon.
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All models are capable of playing the same video, audio, and photo files with the exception of those listed under the BDP-S6200. Please see the respective manual for specific file playback requirements.

BDP-S1200
· Access to over 200 streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, etc.)
· Quick Start/Load
· Front USB slot (Photos, Music, Video)
· Can bit-stream Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio via HDMI
· Can bit-stream DD and DTS via coaxial audio out
· LPCM 2 channel, 5.1, and 7.1 out via HDMI
· Can decode Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio but only outputs as 2 channel audio
· Can decode DD and DTS
· Can output DSD via HDMI or convert DSD to LPCM
· x.v. Color
· IP Content Noise Reduction
· BD-ROM and DVD-ROM 24p output

BDP-S3200
Everything the BDP-S1200 offers plus:
· Wireless internet connection capability (2.4 GHz, 802.11 b/g/n)
· DLNA capability
· TV SideView (control the player using remote devices such as a smartphone)
· Screen mirroring using Miracast
· Internet browser
· Graceote: video search (search for content related to the inserted BD-ROM/DVD-ROM) and music search (search for content related to the inserted audio CD)
· BDP’s name can be changed within the device

BDP-S5200
Everything the BDP-S3200 offers plus:
· 3D Blu-Ray playback
· 2D to 3D conversion
· TRILUMINOS technology

BDP-S6200
Everything the BDP-S5200 offers plus:
· 4K Upscaling
· SA-CD playback
· Dual-core processor
· Decodes DTS-HD Master Audio and outputs all channels
· DSF, DSDIFF, AIFF, and ALAC playback (not from a DLNA server however)
· SBM (Super Bit Mapping)
· Digital Music Enhancer
· DTS Neo:6
· Front display
· Rear USB port

BDP-S7200
Everything the BDP-S6200 offers plus:
-Fancy case
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All models are capable of playing the same video, audio, and photo files with the exception of those listed under the BDP-S6200. Please see the respective manual for specific file playback requirements.

BDP-S1200
· Access to over 200 streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, etc.)
· Quick Start/Load
· Front USB slot (Photos, Music, Video)
· Can bit-stream Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio via HDMI
· Can bit-stream DD and DTS via coaxial audio out
· LPCM 2 channel, 5.1, and 7.1 out via HDMI
· Can decode Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio but only outputs as 2 channel audio
· Can decode DD and DTS
· Can output DSD via HDMI or convert DSD to LPCM
· x.v. Color
· IP Content Noise Reduction
· BD-ROM and DVD-ROM 24p output

BDP-S3200
Everything the BDP-S1200 offers plus:
· Wireless internet connection capability (2.4 GHz, 802.11 b/g/n)
· DLNA capability
· TV SideView (control the player using remote devices such as a smartphone)
· Screen mirroring using Miracast
· Internet browser
· Graceote: video search (search for content related to the inserted BD-ROM/DVD-ROM) and music search (search for content related to the inserted audio CD)
· BDP’s name can be changed within the device

BDP-S5200
Everything the BDP-S3200 offers plus:
· 3D Blu-Ray playback
· 2D to 3D conversion
· TRILUMINOS technology

BDP-S6200
Everything the BDP-S5200 offers plus:
· 4K Upscaling
· SA-CD playback
· Dual-core processor
· Decodes DTS-HD Master Audio and outputs all channels
· DSF, DSDIFF, AIFF, and ALAC playback (not from a DLNA server however)
· SBM (Super Bit Mapping)
· Digital Music Enhancer
· DTS Neo:6
· Front display
· Rear USB port

BDP-S7200
Everything the BDP-S6200 offers plus:
-Fancy case

Thanks Nick for posting the info. Hopefully it helps clear some things up for people comparing the 6200 to the 7200 which once again save for the fancy casing are identicle models.
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Based on advice here, especially that gleaned from the "OFFICIAL "HELP ME CHOOSE A PLAYER" THREAD: Can't decide? Start HERE." I went with the Sony 6200. I hooked it up and immediately have a weird network issue.

I hooked it up and it plays a disk fine. But if I click on the "Netflix" button or in any other way try to go to the internet I get a pop up that reads,

"Internet Content Connection Status"
"Acquiring Internet Content....(1/3) (2/3) (3/3). After stalling on the last one (3/3) for quite a while I get a message, "Connection timed out because the server can not be accessed" (Something to that effect). And then the player actually shuts off.

I have tried this with both a wireless and wired connection. If I go to Internet Status menu it says my internet connection is fine.

Anyone any ideas?
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Based on advice here, especially that gleaned from the "OFFICIAL "HELP ME CHOOSE A PLAYER" THREAD: Can't decide? Start HERE." I went with the Sony 6200. I hooked it up and immediately have a weird network issue.

I hooked it up and it plays a disk fine. But if I click on the "Netflix" button or in any other way try to go to the internet I get a pop up that reads,

"Internet Content Connection Status"
"Acquiring Internet Content....(1/3) (2/3) (3/3). After stalling on the last one (3/3) for quite a while I get a message, "Connection timed out because the server can not be accessed" (Something to that effect). And then the player actually shuts off.

I have tried this with both a wireless and wired connection. If I go to Internet Status menu it says my internet connection is fine.

Anyone any ideas?
I had this happen once. I tried a bit later and it worked just fine.
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Based on advice here, especially that gleaned from the "OFFICIAL "HELP ME CHOOSE A PLAYER" THREAD: Can't decide? Start HERE." I went with the Sony 6200. I hooked it up and immediately have a weird network issue.

I hooked it up and it plays a disk fine. But if I click on the "Netflix" button or in any other way try to go to the internet I get a pop up that reads,

"Internet Content Connection Status"
"Acquiring Internet Content....(1/3) (2/3) (3/3). After stalling on the last one (3/3) for quite a while I get a message, "Connection timed out because the server can not be accessed" (Something to that effect). And then the player actually shuts off.

I have tried this with both a wireless and wired connection. If I go to Internet Status menu it says my internet connection is fine.

Anyone any ideas?
Are you by any chance using a DNS provider to get access to US Netflix and so from another country? If yes, then I've had that exact same problem, and it is very dependent upon which DNS provider you use.
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Are you by any chance using a DNS provider to get access to US Netflix and so from another country? If yes, then I've had that exact same problem, and it is very dependent upon which DNS provider you use.
Butch666, thanks. You were far more helpful than an hour on the phone with Sony tech support (on my dime!). And they never resolved it. They finally had me take my player back to where I bought it nd exchange it which, of course, resolved nothing.

I took your thought and hooked up to my little Verizon "Jetpack" wireless thing that I sometimes use for travel. Problem solved! I downloaded all the apps list. Then I was able to hook up to my home network and log into Netflix, Hulu, etc.

I have to say that I sure prefer how Samsung apps are arranged on the screen compared to Sony. It took a lot of searching to find apps with Sony.

Butch666, thanks again.
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I went with the Sony 6200. I hooked it up and immediately have a weird network issue.

I hooked it up and it plays a disk fine. But if I click on the "Netflix" button or in any other way try to go to the internet I get a pop up that reads,

"Internet Content Connection Status"
"Acquiring Internet Content....(1/3) (2/3) (3/3).
Isn't this true of all of the Sony BDPs, even since last year, perhaps even prior? From first-hand experience I can tell you that I returned the BX510 (same as the 2013 S5100) to Sam's Club because of this annoying issue (amongst other reasons). Others on the forums, and in customer reviews, have complained of this issue, too.

I know packing in "smart features" is probably here to stay, but considering the apps on BDPs (and TVs for that matter) seemingly don't receive updates after their year of manufacture (or after new models arrive) you're better off with a media streamer, IMO.
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Isn't this true of all of the Sony BDPs, even since last year, perhaps even prior? From first-hand experience I can tell you that I returned the BX510 (same as the 2013 S5100) to Sam's Club because of this annoying issue (amongst other reasons). Others on the forums, and in customer reviews, have complained of this issue, too.

I know packing in "smart features" is probably here to stay, but considering the apps on BDPs (and TVs for that matter) seemingly don't receive updates after their year of manufacture (or after new models arrive) you're better off with a media streamer, IMO.
no question that update screen is annoying. It is the one thing I don't like about my S5100s and S6200s.
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Three differences between the 6200 & 7200

The 7200 can play: DSD - DSDIFF/DSC, AIFF (.aiff, .aif) , and ALAC (.m4a) Hi Rez files;
the 6200 can't.

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Three differences between the 6200 & 7200

The 7200 can play: DSD - DSDIFF/DSC, AIFF (.aiff, .aif) , and ALAC (.m4a) Hi Rez files;
the 6200 can't.
What is DSD - DSDIFF/DSC?
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Three differences between the 6200 & 7200

The 7200 can play: DSD - DSDIFF/DSC, AIFF (.aiff, .aif) , and ALAC (.m4a) Hi Rez files;
the 6200 can't.

What the hell is all that? No matter because I wont use those features anyway because all I care about is Blu ray quality play back which is something my 6200 does very very well.
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Is it even possible for the 6200 to support SACD and NOT support DSD since they are essentially the same thing? I think the marketing specs for the 6200 are simply incomplete.

And marctronixx, why did you suddenly stop liking every post? Are you ok?
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Is it even possible for the 6200 to support SACD and NOT support DSD since they are essentially the same thing? I think the marketing specs for the 6200 are simply incomplete.

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The 6200 happily plays back DSD files from USB.
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Three differences between the 6200 & 7200

The 7200 can play: DSD - DSDIFF/DSC, AIFF (.aiff, .aif) , and ALAC (.m4a) Hi Rez files;
the 6200 can't.
The 6200 can play anything the 7200 can...please read their respective manuals before posting such items.
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