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Wow, LOL, you sound like this was a personal attack launched against you.
Oh hell no. Your post was no personal attack against me and I never took it that way. Second you asked does my Sony insider have proof? Ah yea he does as a matter of fact because he works for Sony and he has ties with the tv and blu ray player manufacturing depts. So I think he does know a few things about the 7200 and 6200.
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If you go by the operating manual, the 6200 and 7200 are the virtually identical. Hell you probably won't see any difference in aq and pq between the two players. However, i really find hard to believe that Sony will charge $200 more for "just the case". Remember the Sony ES players? They had better internal parts and hence the 5 years warranty and the premium price. This S7200 could be similar. Now, this is my personal opinion and i'm totally guessing.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compar...EG_1033029-REG

Not sure why this chart most of them n/a for 5200 & 6200
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Maybe we can proof the 6200/7200 players are identical sans the casing by the firmware version they run? My USA 6200 currently has: M21.R.0116
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ooh this is fun!

sir, that article did not post up any type of comparison graphs or anything with other players.

i own the 7200. i had the 6200. i sold the 6200.

even on netflix, in the settings it shows my 7200 as a "6200". Meaning netflix sees the 7200 as having the same configuration and signature as the 6200.

do i need to post a photo to prove this? i mentioned this earlier in this thread.

they are the SAME player! I think imma take the 7200 apart tonight and post up photos of the guts....
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Dang it, I just ordered the S7200. I keep getting different messages on both the S6200 and the S7200. I have 30 days with it. Hopefully, it is better than my old S790.
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What the heck is a "catch-up TV service"? The review says it is "Limited on catch-up TV services". What the heck is that?
Since what hifi is a uk publication I'm assuming they are referring to the uk tv catch up services such as bbc iplayer, itv player, 4od and 5 on demand.
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Maybe we can proof the 6200/7200 players are identical sans the casing by the firmware version they run? My USA 6200 currently has: M21.R.0116
Each bd player has a unique firmware identifier.
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Can the sony s6200 play ISO movies from usb drive? I tryed to stream from my nas but don't recognize.
No.
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... dated 28/03 for the following products:
  • STR-DN1050
  • STR-DN850
  • MAP-S1
  • BDP-S7200

http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/d...5&NewsAreaID=2

Relevant portion of news release:
"BDP-S7200 SA-CD/Blu-ray Disc™ Player
Sony’s newest Blu-ray Disc player adds High-Resolution audio playback capabilities to an awesome list of specifications. The range-topping BDP-S7200 teams peerless pictures with stunning sound, whether you’re enjoying favourite movies on disc or a mouth-watering choice of online entertainment services.
Quick access to a world of online content is complemented by exciting new enhancements to picture and sound quality. It’s the first Blu-ray Disc player from Sony that can play both Super Audio CD and Hi-Resolution audio files – slip in a disc and hear every note with an authenticity and impact that’s uncanny. And even if you’re listening to low-res Internet videos or MP3 tracks, Sony’s Digital Music Enhancer gives your sound a natural high, restoring frequencies that get lost in heavily-compressed files.
If you’re watching Blu-ray Disc™ movies on the BDP-S7200, 4K upscaling gives your favourite titles the red carpet treatment with four times the detail of Full HD on your 4K television. Even web video quality is boosted with IP Content Noise Reduction Pro that’s powered by the speedy Dual Core processor for crisper pictures, rich textures and natural tonal gradations.
Improved Wi-Fi helps stream videos and music more reliably across your network. There’s a world of online entertainment to explore with instant access to movies, music, catch-up TV, and more from Sony Entertainment Network. Flick through a selection of online channels, or load up the latest YouTube™ videos. Screen mirroring with Miracast™ even lets you share photos, videos, and music right from your smartphone or tablet on your TV screen.
The new range of High-Resolution Audio products from Sony are on sale in Europe from May 2014."
I'm lost as well then since the 6200 is able to do all of this too.
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my opinion, the 7200 should not have its own thread. ultimately other models will creep into the thread and it will become the same as this thread. there is a "search thread" function to help search within this thread so I don see the issue.
I completely agree ... It's the same player functionally at the end of the day ;-)
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Ok, I'm willing to listen. Which of you people posting own a BDP-S7200 ? Is anyone here qualified to post their own rebuttal ? Like I said, I am more than willing to listen if you can disprove any thing that was stated in the article. Not one person that posted against my post, has offered ANY proof whatsoever that the two are the same ! How 'bout that "sony insider", he must have some kind of proof.
The "review" simply restated what has been found on various Sony sites...they clearly had no reason themselves to say the 7200 offers anything different in the processing department. Notice that they didn't give any specifics...they just said it and moved on.

I want there to be a difference between the two players so I can go on believing the world makes sense.
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hahaha...Lol
So, what are the differences did you notice ? Mainly on PQ & SQ ?
None. Trust me, I buy at least 3 blu-ray players a year, have owned 2013 and 2014 Sony's, 2008-2014 Panny's, and 3 different Oppo's (as well as PS3 and Xbone).

1080p/24 blu-ray play back on the standalones is just not a big deal. As long as they pass video tests fine they play the movie backs OK. The 103D of course has Darbee and I did not care for that, so it was overkill. I do not use analog outs because I come out of the X4000 to my amp with analogs, so, overkill.

I do not really watch DVD's, so no big deal there either. The Oppo lacks streaming solutions, but you can add a roku stick ($$$ on top of $$$).

It's hard for people to get past "if it costs more it's better" in HT, but with blu-ray players today, thats not really true. If you are playing 1080p/24 blu-ray and bitstreaming HDMI audio, dont waste your time or $$$.

And don't take this as a knock on Oppo, it has its place and they have great customer service, At some point however, it makes more sense to get the same performance, and use that money elsewhere. Owning an Oppo to say you have one is not very cost effective, but if you have a need for Darbee or a video processor, go right ahead.
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Since what hifi is a uk publication I'm assuming they are referring to the uk tv catch up services such as bbc iplayer, itv player, 4od and 5 on demand.
So a "catch up TV service" is just a streaming service? That is a weird name to call a streaming service.
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Can the sony s6200 play ISO movies from usb drive? I tryed to stream from my nas but don't recognize.
You typically need a "real" media" player for that". I use my two S6200s and a couple of PCH A400 media players. My PCH a400s work great with my 1900+ BD ISOs.
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So a "catch up TV service" is just a streaming service? That is a weird name to call a streaming service.
I believe they were given this nickname because, in the beginning, they were mostly used by viewers to "catch up" on episodes they had missed when they were broadcast on television. The nickname is still used, even though it may no longer be an accurate descriptor of the most common usage of these services.
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So a "catch up TV service" is just a streaming service? That is a weird name to call a streaming service.
All of those free services primary offer a 7 day catch up service for programming you have missed. They also have archived shows from years ago .... but not a complete catalog of all shows.

So on iPlayer for example, you're not going to see all series of Top Gear.

Thus the name "catch up service". Streaming is just merely the means of getting the content to you.
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Very interesting machine. So is working also like a nas right? Support also torrent client like transmition? I finally got it to stream some Mkv with my zyxel nas and the the s6200 but I can't get the subtitles to work. I go to option appear the options for subs but doesn't go on. Any idea how to work streaming the subs?
You stream movies from the popcorn interface or from s6200? I see in the s6200 some video profiles when I steam movie do you know any good settings for custom? Because the other profiles like direct home theater or bright room are little dark.

And what about the kdlinks hd720. In amazon the popcorn doesn't have so good reviews( buffering etc...) .
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All of those free services primary offer a 7 day catch up service for programming you have missed. They also have archived shows from years ago .... but not a complete catalog of all shows.

So on iPlayer for example, you're not going to see all series of Top Gear.

Thus the name "catch up service". Streaming is just merely the means of getting the content to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVCatchup


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Very strange, yesterday I was able to stream movies from my nas to s6200 and today I can't. I see all the files on my nas from the s6200 but when I choose one says not supported. Yesterday I was watching perfectly. Anybody has any clue?
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perhaps the simple is at hand...unplug the nas and the player to refresh/reboot.

worth a shot?
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Not a change. The same. How come? I don't get that. One day working fine and the next see the files and no playable file in this category. In the meanwhile music and photos I can play. Just the videos I can't!!!!
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I found what I was doing wrong. I was try to play video from the audio dashboard on s6200. Now is ok. But why the subs are not working ? Did anybody try to play with the video settings on custom? Any suggest for recomanded settings? In the default auto or thdirect to me is little dark.
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players and windows home server

Down any one know which of the Sony BDP units has a better web browser?
I have a home server and would like to stream content while traveling
I currently own the BPD-S5200 it starts to open the webpage then stops without showing all the links.
I can stream to my phone but streaming to the BDP would be great
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All have the same terrible web browser.
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And if anyone is keeping score, the 7200 has the same webtv ancient looking browser... :-)


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I never even knew they had a web browser. Not sure what I would use it for though.
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RE: 6200 vs 7200
Sony claims that only the 7200 will play Hi-Res Audio files, so I did one-half of an experiment with my 7200 today.

I have a small collection of Hi-Res Audio albums (mostly purchased from HDtracks.com). I selected Eagles > Desperado FLAC files recorded at 24-bit/192 kHz resolution.

(Keep in mind that FLAC by itself does not imply Hi-Res Audio; FLAC (and ALAC and others) only means loss-less compression. Many FLAC files are 16-bit, 44.1 kHz (compact disc standard) recordings.)

I loaded the Eagles album on a flash chip in a USB dongle and plugged it into the front of my 7200.

RESULT: As promised by Sony, the 7200 plays Hi-Res Audio files (in this case, 24-bit/192-kHz FLAC).

If some sufficiently capable and curious 6200 owner is able to repeat the experiment on their player, to test if a 6200 can play 24-bit/192 kHz tracks (doesn't have to be Eagles, any Hi-Res Audio file will do), we could put to rest, one way or the other, the discussion about the equality of the two players.

Anyone?

John
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RE: 6200 vs 7200
Sony claims that only the 7200 will play Hi-Res Audio files, so I did one-half of an experiment with my 7200 today.

I have a small collection of Hi-Res Audio albums (mostly purchased from HDtracks.com). I selected Eagles > Desperado FLAC files recorded at 24-bit/192 kHz resolution.

(Keep in mind that FLAC by itself does not imply Hi-Res Audio; FLAC (and ALAC and others) only means loss-less compression. Many FLAC files are 16-bit, 44.1 kHz (compact disc standard) recordings.)

I loaded the Eagles album on a flash chip in a USB dongle and plugged it into the front of my 7200.

RESULT: As promised by Sony, the 7200 plays Hi-Res Audio files (in this case, 24-bit/192-kHz FLAC).

If some sufficiently capable and curious 6200 owner is able to repeat the experiment on their player, to test if a 6200 can play 24-bit/192 kHz tracks (doesn't have to be Eagles, any Hi-Res Audio file will do), we could put to rest, one way or the other, the discussion about the equality of the two players.

Anyone?

John
Where can I download some files from?
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RE: 6200 vs 7200
Sony claims that only the 7200 will play Hi-Res Audio files, so I did one-half of an experiment with my 7200 today.

I have a small collection of Hi-Res Audio albums (mostly purchased from HDtracks.com). I selected Eagles > Desperado FLAC files recorded at 24-bit/192 kHz resolution.

(Keep in mind that FLAC by itself does not imply Hi-Res Audio; FLAC (and ALAC and others) only means loss-less compression. Many FLAC files are 16-bit, 44.1 kHz (compact disc standard) recordings.)

I loaded the Eagles album on a flash chip in a USB dongle and plugged it into the front of my 7200.

RESULT: As promised by Sony, the 7200 plays Hi-Res Audio files (in this case, 24-bit/192-kHz FLAC).

If some sufficiently capable and curious 6200 owner is able to repeat the experiment on their player, to test if a 6200 can play 24-bit/192 kHz tracks (doesn't have to be Eagles, any Hi-Res Audio file will do), we could put to rest, one way or the other, the discussion about the equality of the two players.

Anyone?

John
Any chance you can test the 7200 by trying to play the same file via. DLNA instead of USB? And if it's not too much trouble could you test both USB & DLNA playback of an ALAC and/or DSD file? My understanding is that FLAC is supported via both, but ALAC and DSD are only supported via. USB (not DLNA).
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