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apw2607 01-06-2014 06:22 PM

Official Sony BDP-S1200, BDP-S3200, BDP-S4200, BDP-S5200, BDP-S6200, and BDP-S7200
 
Sony 2014 BDPs announced.

*Updated comparison info courtesy of AVSForum user Nickff*

BDP-S1200

· Access to over 200 streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Pandora, etc.)
· Quick Start/Load
· Front USB slot (Photos, Music, Video)
· Can bit-stream Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio via HDMI
· Can bit-stream DD and DTS via coaxial audio out
· LPCM 2 channel, 5.1, and 7.1 out via HDMI
· Can decode Dolby True HD and DTS-HD Master Audio but only outputs as 2 channel audio
· Can decode DD and DTS
· Can output DSD via HDMI or convert DSD to LPCM
· x.v. Color
· IP Content Noise Reduction
· BD-ROM and DVD-ROM 24p output

BDP-S3200
Everything the BDP-S1200 offers plus:
· Wireless internet connection capability (2.4 GHz, 802.11 b/g/n)
· DLNA capability
· TV SideView (control the player using remote devices such as a smartphone)
· Screen mirroring using Miracast
· Internet browser
· Graceote: video search (search for content related to the inserted BD-ROM/DVD-ROM) and music search (search for content related to the inserted audio CD)
· BDP’s name can be changed within the device

BDP-S5200
Everything the BDP-S3200 offers plus:
· 3D Blu-Ray playback
· 2D to 3D conversion
· TRILUMINOS technology

BDP-S6200
Everything the BDP-S5200 offers plus:
· 4K Upscaling
· SA-CD playback
· Dual-core processor
· Decodes DTS-HD Master Audio and outputs all channels
· DSF, DSDIFF, AIFF, and ALAC playback (not from a DLNA server however)
· SBM (Super Bit Mapping)
· Digital Music Enhancer
· DTS Neo:6
· Front display
· Rear USB port

BDP-S7200
Everything the BDP-S6200 offers plus:
-Fancy case

Christian Busch 01-06-2014 08:59 PM

hi,

from reading the specs the only diff I could find was 4k upscaling in the 6200 and the miracast thing. other than that they seeem to be very similar to the 5100. they have wifi n, no ac and the xmb menu is there as well, still.

any compelling reason to upgrade?

cheers,

mdavej 01-06-2014 10:00 PM

I thought current gen Sony's already had Mircast. I'm not seeing any must have features.

iatacs19 01-06-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Busch View Post

hi,

from reading the specs the only diff I could find was 4k upscaling in the 6200 and the miracast thing. other than that they seeem to be very similar to the 5100. they have wifi n, no ac and the xmb menu is there as well, still.

any compelling reason to upgrade?

cheers,

It also has a dual core CPU. It makes a noticeable difference when running the Netflix, Amazon, VUDU apps, etc.

The 6200 is an upgrade to the S790 which did not get an upgrade since 2012.

marctronixx 01-06-2014 10:47 PM

wasnt the 790 dual core? I had the 790 on one display and the 5100 on the other. i eventually sold the 790.

the 790 was no faster in performance than the 5100 in my experience with both units. i had both players on their respective launch days and had a long run with them both.

ill probably get the 6200 because im a gear slut and a early adopter, but other than some social media differences, i dont see this as a compelling reason to upgrade from the 5100 for the average user.

Christian Busch 01-06-2014 11:58 PM

i wish they would just make a decent mobile app for it.

kristoffer77 01-07-2014 01:49 AM

I really hate the diamond design.

Zaim 01-07-2014 03:11 AM

Anyone having problems accessing the manual for the "BDP-S5200"

Selden Ball 01-07-2014 07:14 AM

The link above to the manual for the 6200 provided me with a generic manual titled "Blu-ray Disc/DVD Player Simple Manual", not one specific to the new 6200 design.

When it downloads, it doesn't have a .pdf filetype extension, so you have to add that yourself.

Hopefully device-specific manuals will be available in the not-too-distant future.

Iain- 01-07-2014 07:31 AM

Do S5200 and S6200 have SA-CD and RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 colour space support?

Cortiz 01-07-2014 07:44 AM

I don't like the new S6200 replacing the S790. It just looks like a slightly upgraded version of the S5100. It does not appear this thing will have dual HDMI and/or Super Bit Mapping. Sadly, I think the days of premium designed BD players are behind us.

Cortiz 01-07-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by iatacs19 View Post

It also has a dual core CPU. It makes a noticeable difference when running the Netflix, Amazon, VUDU apps, etc.

The 6200 is an upgrade to the S790 which did not get an upgrade since 2012.


The 6200 is replacing the S790 but it sure is NOT an upgrade. Where's the super bit mapping video and the dual HDMI?. Not that this is something most people need/use but when you remove features, it's more like a downgrade......Also, the design is not an upgrade either. The S790 is a small player but it was well built and looks real nice.

CaptinCrunch 01-07-2014 09:07 AM

I have the BDP-S5100 and after comparing it against the BDP-S5200 the 5200 is kind of a down grade. You lose 1 USB port. Sony is pushing the "Enjoy high picture quality with TRILUMINOS Display technology" which means it supports the x.v.Color format which the 5100 did as well...lol biggrin.gif

Bottom line is the BDP-S5100 will be the better deal over the S5200 as far as price is concerned.

Correction.....The coaxial Audio out is still there, I miss read a typo on the Sony site rolleyes.gif

mdavej 01-07-2014 09:20 AM

So these new players have no coax or optical? That's a major deal breaker for me. Looks like the current gen Sonys are the end of the line for me. It's been a good run.

Cortiz 01-07-2014 09:27 AM

The last REAL good BD player from Sony was the S790. The current Sony BD players can't even internally decode Dolby True HD 5.1. Just 2.0 CH

aaronwt 01-07-2014 10:11 AM

The S6200 only has one HDMi output. Ths 790 had two.

The S5200 only has two channel decoding for Dolby True HD and DTS-HD MA.

The S5100 at least decoded multi-channel DTS-HD MA.

I don't see anything with these new players that would make me want to replace my two S5100 players.

And if I had an expensive 4K TV, i would rather the 4K TV do the upscaling than a $180 BD player.

apw2607 01-07-2014 10:41 AM

I think we need to wait and see if there are any changes on the inside ... that being the software, interface and apps platform. I'm amazed Sony are going to have another year of XMB, when the TVs all got the new UI a few years back.

One thing that the S6200 I think will have over the older S790 is the ability to play MKV VC-1 and MPEG2 video. This could only be done within a M2TS on the S790.

Also these newer players all have IP Noise reduction Pro, which is a step up from the basic IP noise reduction on the x100 players.

Yes, its a shame if Sony dropped SBM ... this was pretty useful for poorer quality content.

A lot was often said about the S790's dual core processor performance. I only really saw an improvement when displaying large amounts of data in the XMB, when using DLNA. Navigation was certainly speedier than single core machines.

The question is, will Cinavia be enforced over DLNA? Samsung introduced this on their 2013 players ... will Sony follow?

aaronwt 01-07-2014 12:26 PM

I would think... Yes.

I will be surprised if they don't

apw2607 01-07-2014 12:30 PM

https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-unveils-next-generation-blu-ray-disc-players/

Another new feature of the S6200 ...

".. the BDP-S6200 has a Digital Music Enhancer which combines Sony’s proprietary audio technologies to restore those subtle high frequency details that get lost when listening to heavily-compressed digital music files and also restores lost dynamics in low-bit rate audio tracks for a more spacious, natural listening and viewing experience."

apw2607 01-07-2014 12:34 PM

One more nugget from Sony Europe. Think this is the first time Sony have ever messaged outbound MKV support over a passing comment in the owners manual ;-)

http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=9348&NewsAreaId=2

"More codecs, more content
You’re spoiled for choice with Sony: all new Blu-ray Disc Players let you enjoy a huge range of file and content types. Play movies, music and photos stored on USB drives or your home network server, your playback options have never been wider as all models have expanded to support additional video codec in .mkv movies."

Foxbat121 01-07-2014 01:03 PM

I hope this means they will finally resolve the DTS-HD MA audio track freeze the player issue on MKV files. But again, with Cinavia potentially enforce on DLNA, that makes it quite useless as well.

Iain- 01-07-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

One more nugget from Sony Europe. Think this is the first time Sony have ever messaged outbound MKV support over a passing comment in the owners manual ;-)

http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=9348&NewsAreaId=2

"More codecs, more content
You’re spoiled for choice with Sony: all new Blu-ray Disc Players let you enjoy a huge range of file and content types. Play movies, music and photos stored on USB drives or your home network server, your playback options have never been wider as all models have expanded to support additional video codec in .mkv movies."

Interesting.

Wonder if this includes multi-channel FLAC with gapless playback support, as well?

calearne 01-07-2014 10:22 PM

None of the models have optical audio out? mad.gif

I though coax audio was going to be killed off with the ''analog sunset''.

Foxbat121 01-08-2014 05:36 AM

That's coax DIGITAL audio, not analog. None of the Sony 2013 players have any optical out, nor any analog A/V outs. So this is not new.

aaronwt 01-08-2014 06:09 AM

Yes, optical or coaxial doesn't matter. They had converters 15 years ago and they have them now. So whether someone needs an optical connection or a coaxial then they are covered. But personally I dropped those old connections many years ago. One of the things I loved about HDMI was that one cable carrried both audio and video.

Iain- 01-08-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Yes, optical or coaxial doesn't matter. They had converters 15 years ago and they have them now. So whether someone needs an optical connection or a coaxial then they are covered. But personally I dropped those old connections many years ago. One of the things I loved about HDMI was that one cable carrried both audio and video.

Indeed.

It's the modern SCART. wink.gif

mdavej 01-08-2014 08:32 AM

Well it's good to hear they still have coax at least. My AVR is over 15 years old and still going strong. So HDMI audio is not an option for me.

Iain- 01-08-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kristoffer77 View Post

I really hate the diamond design.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortiz View Post

I don't like the new S6200 replacing the S790. It just looks like a slightly upgraded version of the S5100. It does not appear this thing will have dual HDMI and/or Super Bit Mapping. Sadly, I think the days of premium designed BD players are behind us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

Do S5200 and S6200 have SA-CD and RGB/YCbCr4:4:4 colour space support?

As a follow-on to my post above, I completely agree with kristoffer77 and cortiz. I quite dislike the S6200 styling. I really haven't paid much attention to the styling of my S790, but if the ugly S6200 is indeed S790 replacement I'll just get a multi-region BD/DVD S5100 as primary player and use the S790 as secondary to make it last as long as possible. It's quite well built and I love the minimalist styling.

aaronwt 01-08-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post



As a follow-on to my post above, I completely agree with kristoffer77 and cortiz. I quite dislike the S6200 styling. I really haven't paid much attention to the styling of my S790, but if the ugly S6200 is indeed S790 replacement I'll just get a multi-region BD/DVD S5100 as primary player and use the S790 as secondary to make it last as long as possible. It's quite well built and I love the minimalist styling.
The styling is similar to the 2013 models. The S790 was introduced in 2012 wasn't it.

At least they all look the same for 2014. In 2013 my S5100 looked different than the lower models. But i still would prefer to have a flat top.

Iain- 01-08-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

The styling is similar to the 2013 models. The S790 was introduced in 2012 wasn't it.

At least they all look the same for 2014. In 2013 my S5100 looked different than the lower models. But i still would prefer to have a flat top.

S790 was released in 2012 and replaced the ugly-as-sin S780.

S790 minimalist styling is similar to S770 which the S790 replaced in late 2012 due to a fault in the former model in my system.

Even for 2012 models, S790 is clearly the winner for styling and build quality. The L/R sides of lesser models had a greater inward slope angle than S790 had.


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