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The 2014 Samsung BD-H5100, BD-H5900, and BD-H6500 Blu-ray players are now available on Amazon. These are the successors to Samsung's 2013 'F Series' Blu-ray players.

Here are the official product pages on Samsung's website:

The BD-H5100 does not support 3D content, while the BD-H5900 and BD-H6500 do. A full comparison between the models in the 'H Series' can be found here. At present, Samsung's specs list seems to be incomplete.

The product manuals are here:

Feel free to discuss the 'H Series' models here.
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Thanks James. One of the reasons I love the Samsung players is the ability to stream at 24p when most other players convert it to 60p. I hope these 2014 models keep this fantastic feature.
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The reviews on Amazon claim these can't stream Amazon Instant. That's crazy.

The Samsung site says that the apps that run on these units are "Opera" apps, whatever that is. I wonder if they're compatible with the existing Samsung smart apps like the Plex channel app?
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The Samsung site says that the apps that run on these units are "Opera" apps, whatever that is.

Opera Software is a company that makes the Opera web browser, the 5th most popular personal computer web browser. Apparently they have an HTML5 TV app platform called Opera TV. Most TV and Blu-ray player manufacturers are trying to move to HTML5 as the standard language for developing Smart TV apps.
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Opera Software is a company that makes the Opera web browser, the 5th most popular personal computer web browser. Apparently they have an HTML5 TV app platform called Opera TV. Most TV and Blu-ray player manufacturers are trying to move to HTML5 as the standard language for developing Smart TV apps.

Oh, that Opera. Yes, I'm familiar with their browser. Didn't know they were into embedded systems also.

Does this mean that Samsung has changed their app framework and all of the existing smart apps are incompatible with their new players? If so, that's huge (and might explain why there's no Amazon player for them at this point).
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Hi, I'm trying to decide between this and the F5900. The H5900 isn't really available yet in Canada. The only thing I prefer with the F is the optical instead of coax.

The player is for my mum. Really she only needs wifi, netflix and bluray playback. 3D is nice, her TV supports it, but it would likely nearly never be used, except maybe if I set up US netflix.
I am kind of assuming that the H5100 won't have wifi built in again.

And the only reason I am going with Samsung is because in my experience, the DLNA works best on them. She lives at my brothers and he's got a server, so some software and it'll be all streaming and what not which would be convenient.


Sorry if this should be it's own thread.
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The only thing I prefer with the F is the optical instead of coax.

I haven't seen the BD-H5900 in person (I own the BD-F5900) but the Samsung website has a photo of the back of the player. It shows an optical audio connection, an HDMI connection, and an Ethernet connection.

Last year's BD-F5900 apparently had two versions depending on the retailer. One version had optical audio out and the other version had coaxial audio out. There's a possibility that's happening now with the BD-H5900.
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I was looking at the manual posted by the op. That had a coax listed and so did the Samsung website on one of the listings I saw.

Retailers in Canada haven't gotten them yet, and I can still grab f5900.
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I was looking at the manual posted by the op. That had a coax listed and so did the Samsung website on one of the listings I saw.

Wow, yeah. Apparently Samsung doesn't know what they built. The product photo doesn't agree with the online product manual. The "Inputs and Outputs" section of the online specs list doesn't even mention an audio jack.
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I am sorry to see that none of these players is the standard 17-inch width of most A/V components. Also, none has two HDMI outputs (for 3-D use with non-compatible A/V receivers). Those would be two requirements if/when I replace my BD-C5500, which still works fine after four years. (By comparison, my BD-P1000 seemed like a real dinosaur when it was only 3.5 years old, when I got the '5500.)

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Also, none has two HDMI outputs (for 3-D use with non-compatible A/V receivers).

That's what the digital audio output jack is for.

If your current Blu-ray player works fine, why replace it?
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My BD-C6900 plays discs fine, but refuses to connect to my Airport 802.11n network. Was hoping to remedy with a new unit (and hopefully move to 802.11ac devices), but absence of Amazon instant is a non-starter. Without, I'll likely invest in Amazon's set top box this summer as an add-on.
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I picked up the H5900 yesterday at Best Buy and love it so far!  It was a hard decision between the new Sony S5200 and this one (I considered last years equivalent models on both the Sony and Samsung but they weren't in stock -- I also considered the LG 540 being my G2 phone is AMAZING).  My decision was made when I saw the box of the Samsung with "dual-band wireless" stamped on top.  I quickly did some research on the Sony and saw it only supports 2.4 GHz.  Weird being the boxes usually tell you NOTHING.   

So far it has been an extremely fast player in the menus, loading apps, and loading media from my flash drive.  Discs load really fast as well.  It is so fast I'm assuming it's dual-core, but can't find that info anywhere.  Not in the instructions or Samsung's Web site.  I did a live chat with Samsung and they told me it was too new and they didn't have the info, but to watch the Web site in the next few days.  Not satisfied with that answer I contacted Samsung through private message on Facebook.  The guy told me he sent my question to a product specialist. 

The app selection is limited but all the apps I need are there: Vudu, Hulu, and Netflix.  All run really smoothly and I've had zero buffering.  The Vudu app on my old Samsung only have about 1 out of 3 bars for connectivity.  On my new H5900 I get 3 out of 3 bars consistently.  So the wireless connection on this player is amazing. 

If I understand it correctly there are two separate app sections: one section are Samsung apps (like Hulu, Netflix, Vudu, Pandora, Youtube, etc.) and the other section is the Opera store.  Amazon is missing as well as MLBTV and if/when they are added to this player I'm guessing they will fall in section one and be separate from the Opera apps.  These two sections are segregated on the player too. 

I've always wanted to try screen mirroring before and now I can with this player.  I turned Miracast on my G2 phone and was quickly able to mirror my phone's screen to my tv.  I noticed hardly any lag and could even play Scribblenauts. 

Also, I keep getting a message saying something like, "model information in upgrade file does not match with your player" when trying to do a software update.  I'm guessing that is because the player is so new.  There are no downloads available on the Samsung Web site yet.  It would seem like a better idea if you got a message that says something like "no updates available." 

Anyway.  I love this player and it is lightning fast!

Edit 4/14/14:  I just returned this player because of troubles with the Hulu app not streaming and running sluggishly.  Had to make a quick panick decision not knowing if it was a hardware or software problem being it was from Best Buy with their insanely short return policy.  Also pressure from my wife being I was only allowed to buy this because our 2010 Samsung player never streamed correctly.  Already missing Miracast and the nice controller.  :(

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Can you tell me if it's got optical or coax audio out?


Seems silly that this is out and Samsung knows nothing :s
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Can you tell me if it's got optical or coax audio out?


Seems silly that this is out and Samsung knows nothing :s


Mine has coax audio out:

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In case anyone is wondering these are the "real" apps currently on the BD-H5900 (what I call the Samsung apps):



Hulu, Vudu, YouTube, Flixster, CinemaNow, Rhapsody, Picasa, AccuWeather, Twitter, Netflix, Pandora, Target Ticket, Internet TV, Flickr, and Facebook

There is also the Opera Store which is separate from this batch and the apps are all in the cloud (as far as I can tell) where you can only save them to your favorite apps in the Opera Store app.  Most of them are rubbish and pointless. 

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I currently own Samsung BD-F5900 and a BD-C6500 both running the Samsung Plex app. I went to BestBuy Hopeing to get another BD-F5900 model. I ended up with the BD-H5900. I didn't have it long before I took it back becuse I couldn't figure out how to get Samsung Apps to install Plex app. BestBuy didn't wont to refund my money so they exchaged it with a display model of the BD-F6700 which they showed me it had the Samsung Apps. Been happy with it and got it little cheeper then the BD-H5900. If the H5900 could run Plex app I would buy it again but for now will stick to the F series 

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I currently own Samsung BD-F5900

 

Do you know what that player launched with apps wise?  Did it have more than 15 like the BD-H5900 or did Samsung add a bunch over the year?

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BD-F5900 looks like 24 apps. 

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Now we have a possible explanation why the Amazon apps aren't on most of the new 2014 Blu-Ray players:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CX5P8FC/ref=amb_link_1/178-9846723-2411333?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=gateway-center-column&pf_rd_r=1P2K475WBSCMZ53V1KMH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1770051702&pf_rd_i=507846

I really think Amazon is shooting themselves in the foot with this. One of the reasons Netflix is so successful is the widespread ability to stream it. By going proprietary, Amazon may win a small battle, but lose the war.
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I really think Amazon is shooting themselves in the foot with this. One of the reasons Netflix is so successful is the widespread ability to stream it. By going proprietary, Amazon may win a small battle, but lose the war.


I agree.  I hope this is not the case.  Someone in the review section on Amazon, for the Samsung H5900, said Amazon is recoding their apps for Blu-Ray players and hopes to have them finished by the end of March, which may be why it's not on some of these players yet (which doesn't stop people from bashing Samsung in the reviews).

Also, on the Plex forum one of the developers mentioned that Samsung only gave the option to submit apps just last month to Samsung Hub, but I have no clue if that includes the H5900, which doesn't have the Samsung Hub, just pre-installed "content partners":

https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/104623-2014-model-stuck-on-1006/

Anyway, I'm not sure if I should return this player (being I only have the crazy low 15-day return period offered by Best Buy) or wait and see if they add more content.  The player has everything I need right now and performs exactly how I wanted a Blu-Ray player to perform, but why pay $30-$40 more for a player that doesn't have as many options as last year's model (which, as I understand, performs similar).  Not to mention Samsung can't even answer my simple question whether this player is dual-core (through chat or facebook).

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A Samsung representative just confirmed with me that the BD-H5900 only has a single-core processor.

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For those who have the H5900 can you please confirm if the player can stream in 24p the same way as the F5900??
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Samsung just released their first firmware update for the H5900 this morning.  No clue what it did, but my machine seems a touch slower now (Hulu has trouble loading and playing video now, especially after the ads).  Was expecting an app update or two (like Amazon).  No new apps.

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Oh, that Opera. Yes, I'm familiar with their browser. Didn't know they were into embedded systems also.

Does this mean that Samsung has changed their app framework and all of the existing smart apps are incompatible with their new players? If so, that's huge (and might explain why there's no Amazon player for them at this point).

Well, yes and no. The new BD H5900 bears very little resemblance app-wise to last years BD-F5900 (I have two F5900s and one H5900). The F5900 had the full Samsung SmartHub. The H5900 has a stripped-down fixed set of "Samsung" apps, and an appallingly bad "Opera TV Store". One of the main reason I use the Samsung players is they could always play all disc types, as well as stream netflix, vudu, hulu plus, and, most importantly, Plex. Well, no real apps can be added to the H5900. If you want the genuine SmartHub, the only choice is the somewhat pricey H6500 an extra $50.00 or so, depending on locality.

The very inferior BD-H5900 is going back tomorrow.
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Does the BD-H5900 have a full web browser?

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I am going to build on Yeto's question. Does the H series have a full web browser with flash support?

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I am going to build on Yeto's question. Does the H series have a full web browser with flash support?

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No, the H5900 doesn't have a Web browser.

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Does the BD-H5900 have a full web browser?

I'm not familiar with the new BD-H5900, but the previous year's BD-F5900 has a web browser that is basically not usable.

Reality check time: The web browsers in Blu-ray players and Smart TVs are mostly "check off the box" features that manufacturers use to sell hardware, but aren't actually useful for consumers. If you think you can surf the web with Blu-ray players, you are seriously overestimating the performance of their microprocessors.
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