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post #1 of 24 Old 08-08-2014, 08:39 AM - Thread Starter
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Will I need a new blu ray player for atmos/DTS:X. etc.?

I currently have the Marantz UD5007 and am Currently waiting for the Marantz AV7702 to be released for the atmos technology. Going to be running a 7.2.2 setup. Now my question is...will the AV7702 handle all the upscaling for the audio or does the blu ray player play a role as we'll? Will I need a new player?

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No. The encoding will be in the bitstream output from any Blu-Ray player. Decoding will be the responsibility of the Atmos-capable receiver or processor.

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I'm in a situation where I can swap the UD5007 for an Oppo BDP-103D. Would this be a wise decision?
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Maybe. Do you need all the extra things an Oppo can do? The Blu-Ray picture quality will show little difference. Reasons to get an Oppo have to do with the features it has, the build quality and the customer support. If you just want to play Blu-Rays, you're probably better off saving your money. And I say this as an Oppo owner.

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Will there be a difference in audio or video? Or is it just features?
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If we're leaving the topic of Dolby Atmos, let's take specific player questions to the player threads and leave this for Atmos.

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Just looking at Yamaha's site earlier today, and specifically at the new Aventage range. Seems the RX-A1040 has Atmos capability. Don't remember whether the capability is available further down the range.

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If someone has the actual answer to this (i.e. if it's hidden in the giant main Atmos thread), I, and many others, I'm sure, would appreciate seeing it here.
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The answer is in this document on pages 4 and 5: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolog...me-theater.pdf

Basically, any Blu-Ray player that conforms to the Blu-Ray spec (which is essentially any player) will work. The decoding is done in an ATMOS-capable AVR/processor, not in a player. Any Blu-Ray disc that is encoded for ATMOS will simply send the sound as a bitstream for the AVR or processor to decode.

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The answer is in this document on pages 4 and 5: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/technolog...me-theater.pdf

Basically, any Blu-Ray player that conforms to the Blu-Ray spec (which is essentially any player) will work. The decoding is done in an ATMOS-capable AVR/processor, not in a player. Any Blu-Ray disc that is encoded for ATMOS will simply send the sound as a bitstream for the AVR or processor to decode.
Thanks for clearing this up, I have a PS3 Slim and I was wondering if I needed to upgrade that as well at the receiver for Atmos.

So much tech coming to our living rooms, I see the 4K BD discs are supposed to be out early next year, I can assume that the Atmos track will be mixed in as well.
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Please Help...How to determine if Blu-Ray Player plays Atmos

I have a Samsung C6900..Can anyone tell me if it plays Atmos?

If not, suggested 3D Blu-Ray Player?
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Try the thread for that player: Official Samsung BD-C6900 3-D Blu-Ray Player Thread

All players that bitstream Dolby TrueHD support Atmos.

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Try the thread for that player: Official Samsung BD-C6900 3-D Blu-Ray Player Thread

All players that bitstream Dolby TrueHD support Atmos.

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Atmos, DTS X, HDR decoding

Do you think that Atmos, DTS X, HDR decoding will be available on any upcoming blu-ray players utilizing analogue outputs?

My pre died recently, and im looking at alternative set up.
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No. The encoding will be in the bitstream output from any Blu-Ray player. Decoding will be the responsibility of the Atmos-capable receiver or processor.
Why are you positive that a blu-ray player will not be able to decode Atmos, DTSX, and HDR, then send a analog signal out to amp like the Oppo units?
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If we're leaving the topic of Dolby Atmos, let's take specific player questions to the player threads and leave this for Atmos.

Thanks.
Hi Teach
You moved a new thread I had started regarding any blu-ray players coming out that will spit out the new formats via 12 channel analogue to amp.
I don't think ill have my question answered in this thread
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Why are you positive that a blu-ray player will not be able to decode Atmos, DTSX, and HDR, then send a analog signal out to amp like the Oppo units?
I just don't see any Blu-Ray makers putting 11 or 12 analog outputs on their players. In fact, most Blu-Ray makers have dropped analog outs.

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yep. I believe you will need to bitstream. Current players will take the core lossless. I don't see any manufacturer mak I ng a player with that many.

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Additionally, unless you were able to go directly to amps, you would need a receiver or pre/pro with that many analog inputs. I doubt there are or will be any? I don't think the new Atmos-capable receivers have analog ins.

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Thank you for the replies guys. I know I'm asking for you to predict the future, and you have given me your educated guesses. Much appreciated.
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Atmos/DTS:x Decoders in Bluray player

Does anyone know if any of the new UHD Bluray players will have built-in Atmos and/or DTS:x decoders? I'm trying to figure out if a miniDSP nanoAVR-DL can be placed between a BD player and an AVR and process Atmos audio on the lower 7.1 channels. The nanoAVR-DL only inputs HDMI containing LPCM (no bitstreaming).
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I doubt that any of the players will have built-in decoding for the new formats. If they did, they would only be able to output LPCM anyway. Once you have decoded things, the output can only be LPCM or analog and almost all players have dropped analog output. It is my understanding that the new formats will give you standard 7.1 or 5.1 if you don't have Atmos/DTS:x processing capabilities. That's the way it works today with Blu-Ray players.

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I doubt that any of the players will have built-in decoding for the new formats. If they did, they would only be able to output LPCM anyway. Once you have decoded things, the output can only be LPCM or analog and almost all players have dropped analog output. It is my understanding that the new formats will give you standard 7.1 or 5.1 if you don't have Atmos/DTS:x processing capabilities. That's the way it works today with Blu-Ray players.
Could the new players not decode dd atmos and dts:x like they do dd true hd and dts-hd-ma and send it over as LPCM Through HDMI? That seems like the best solution for people no wanting to buy a new receiver.

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Could the new players not decode dd atmos and dts:x like they do dd true hd and dts-hd-ma and send it over as LPCM Through HDMI? That seems like the best solution for people no wanting to buy a new receiver.
To put it another way, the only thing new UHD/BD/DVD players will ever decode is 2-channel stereo down-mix via the (analog) audio outputs.

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