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Pioneer Elite BDP-85FD and BDP-88FD Blu-ray Players at CEDIA 2014



Two new reference quality Blu-ray players from Pioneer Elite aim to maximize the quality of your content, be it audio or video.

Pioneer’s new Elite branded BDP-85FD ($1000) and BDP-88FD ($2000) are built like tanks, filled with the latest features that aim to maximize an AV experience. Notably, the new players cater to audio enthusiasts by offering a dedicated audio playback mode that shuts off all the video circuitry when it is not used. Pioneer says the difference in music playback quality is audible. Both units use ES9018 ESS Sabre DACs, and the BDP-88FD has the ability to use its four DACs in parallel, which leads to a reduction in overall noise, says Pioneer.


A peek under the hood of Pioneer's new BDP-88FD.

The new players feature high-quality UHD/4K upscaling; the company calls it the 4K Reference Converter. The players can upsample 4:2:0 8-bit video all the way up to UHD/4K, 60P, 4:4:4, 12-bit video and outputs it through 18 gbps HDMI 2.0.


BDP-85FD back panel


BDP-88FD back panel

These new players sport old-school build quality and focus on maximizing the quality of both audio and video quality. The BDP-88FD serves as Pioneer’s flagship player, while the BDP-85FD offers a lot of the same features at half the price.

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Im in. Ready to throw my 103 in the trash.
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^ They sure look the part! But to release new Blu-ray players now I would think is risky business with 4K Blu-ray around the corner. I wonder just how many HT enthusiasts would pull the trigger at this stage honestly. Brand new players in a year. Smarter to hold out.
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While I appreciate and respect the build quality. Someone at Pioneer might need to pee in a cup. The days of a $2k BDP are long gone... and I use to own the 09 way back when.
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Ya, I can't see these doing to well... Oppo's are just to good.
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Nice that a Pioneer Elite is serving as Panasonic's flagship player.
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These new players sport old-school build quality and focus on maximizing the quality of both audio and video quality. The BDP-88FD serves as Panasonic’s flagship player, while the BDP-85FD offers a lot of the same features at half the price.
Mark, I think you meant Pioneer here, and not "Panasonic".
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Looks like a nice player. My quibble is turning off video circuitry is not something new.

The Marantz BD8002 introduced in 2008 lets you turn off video circuitry. On or off, never heard any difference in sound.
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I'll grab one tomorrow, or I might have that in the media pack...

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The spec sheets are up on pioneer usa site for the 88fd and 85fd page 2 has rear pic
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While I appreciate and respect the build quality. Someone at Pioneer might need to pee in a cup. The days of a $2k BDP are long gone... and I use to own the 09 way back when.
Also, unless somehow that Blu-ray player is upgradable to play the Ultra Blu-ray discs at a reasonable price, $2K is a pretty stiff price for a piece of equipment that will be obsolete in about a year.
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I have the BDP 53FD Elite. I wonder ... do these have the same style remotes? For this price I should have one encased in AL or Carbon Fiber, instead it's recycled plastic with no backlighting. I want to see the remote before I buy another so called "Elite" model. Also, mine every now and then will lock up on BD's also it will freeze and then you have to unplug the player to turn it off.

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I have the BDP 53FD Elite. I wonder ... do these have the same style remotes? For this price I should have one encased in AL or Carbon Fiber, instead it's recycled plastic with no backlighting. I want to see the remote before I buy another so called "Elite" model. Also, mine every now and then will lock up on BD's also it will freeze and then you have to unplug the player to turn it off.
Page 1 of the spec sheets shows the remotes
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^ They sure look the part! But to release new Blu-ray players now I would think is risky business with 4K Blu-ray around the corner. I wonder just how many HT enthusiasts would pull the trigger at this stage honestly. Brand new players in a year. Smarter to hold out.
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Thumbs up Pic of their rears, thx!

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1. No multichannel analog out.
2. No HDMI input.
3. No digital coaxial input.
4. No digital optical input.

5. USB Asynchronous DAC?
6. Only one USB port.

7. Headphones jack on the front panel with its own volume control?
8. USB port on the front panel?
9. HDMI input on the front panel?

10. Cannot be used as a preamp.

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For two grands ($1,700 street) I can by a Dolby Atmos Surround Sound Processor (Marantz AV7702),
and with the $300 left I can get an Oppo BDP-103 (street).
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...Or an Oppo BDP-105D for $999 (refurb, directly from Oppo - full warranty).
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More than a few, they would go to a 4k Tv first, than wait for the bugs to shake out on the 4k players ( which people will complain about the cost of anyway).
I'd say less than a few would invest in players (at this price) when 4K Blu-ray is around the corner lol
Many first gen 4K Blu-ray payer bugs would be solved with firmware, I'm sure. Oppo, anyone?

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Nah, pass on this one. Can't see myself ever going back to a disc spinner no matter how good the pedigree.

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