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Philips BDP7501 UHD Blu-Ray Player

With all the talk on the new Samsung and upcoming Panasonic UHD player I thought I would start a thread to discuss the new Philips BDP7501. I haven't found much about this UHD player other than a possible US release in May 2016. I personally think I am waiting for the US release on the Panasonic but here is some info I found on the new Philips. If anyone has any additional info/specs on this player please share.


http://hometheaterreview.com/philips...r-this-spring/


http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...-support/28797

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Samsung UBD-K8500, Panasonic DMP-UB900 -> Yamaha CX-A5100 -> Sony XBR-75X940C; Mediabridge 6' and 15' HDMI cables.
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I saw this online.

PRE-ORDER at US$399
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Sigh, no Dolby Vision support it seems...
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I like the form factor and it looks like it has decent build quality (unlike the Samsung). Too bad there's no DV support.
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As per Value Electronics, this player will only be out in September 2016. The original release date was May.
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Wow.. thats very long wait !
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Gee, another odd sized piece if equipment. No thanks.
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Philips UHD BD

Some of their early BD players were rebadges, the first from Funai I think. Does anyone know where these players are manufactured and are they actually made by Philips?
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This was from a few hours ago...
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This was from a few hours ago...
I guess by spring, he means spring of 2017? Spring of 2016 ends on June 19th.

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agreed though i hope we are wrong lol...
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They may have been correct with spring 2016 per this article, https://www.yahoo.com/tech/philips-f...225507276.html
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Yeah there are a few articles over the last day or so that says the release is in June.

No correct me if I am wrong but nothing other than the picture above mentions the Dolby Vision.

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I think the Dolby Vision was like a typo on their part. Im waiting for a confirmation from them...
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One of the first to release the Samsung 4K UHD Bluray player was *BestBuy. They are on top of Samsungs list for retailers. That said, Funai manufactures most Philips electronics.
*(During the Samsung K-8500 release, some upscale specialty sellers had to wait a while and experienced slower restocking).
Unboxed mine 10 days BEFORE official relase of March 01.
Got first 4K movies 2 days later from local BB.
So...who's going to sell the Philips BDP7501 first?
According to Philips website, Walmart and Target are among their biggest retailers. (See you at Wally World?)

As for size, the Philips fits in perfectly with my "cheap" Insignia 43" 4K UHD TV/Monitor desktop HTPC
(Cheap price is right, but picture is amazing!)

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Well this is huge news if it were to have DV. That's why a lot of us are waiting. Please can someone confirm?
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I think the Dolby Vision mention was a mis quote...
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I don't even think there are any BluRay Discs with Dolby Vision yet :-(
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I heard Star Wars was done for Dolby and that Universal will have some soon...
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Considering Philips is pushing their own home grown version of dynamic metadata on top of HDR10 with HDMI 2.0b/2.1, it would be very odd if this thing supported Dolby Vision.

So my guess this is yet another UHD Blu-ray player with only HDR10 support and no dynamic metadata support, either via their own flavour of it (since HDMI 2.0a wouldn't support it, and this unit is HDMI 2.0a) or with Dolby Vision support (since it's a standard competing against Philips' own standard).

I assume it will downrez to 1080p. I'd need that since I have no 4K display. Still, if no Dolby Vision support, I'll likely pass, unless this turns out to be some stellar unit in other ways or something.

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Gee, another odd sized piece if equipment. No thanks.
I like these smaller sized items. For a disc player, all I want is a flat top and front loading. I hate getting 16" wide devices that actually consist of 50% empty space inside.

With something like this, a standard component sized shelf can house 4 different components. Two side-by-side, plus two more stacked on top.

If this square is too small for some components, I'd still rather have a half width device but with medium depth (eg. 8" wide by one foot deep). That way you could still put two side-by-side but still fit it in most consumer AV cabinets.

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BTW, how good is Philips with firmware updates? My only other Funai I've bought is a Funai-made Insignia Blu-ray player. I bought it just because it was cheap and it worked very well... until newer incompatible discs came out. The problem is updates were pretty much non-existent with these players and soon they became horribly out-of-date, not working with some discs. Insignia said they couldn't do anything about that, since the firmware updates came from Funai, not Insignia.

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Well DV would of been good especially considering they will have TV's with DV in them...
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Considering Philips is pushing their own home grown version of dynamic metadata on top of HDR10 with HDMI 2.0b/2.1, it would be very odd if this thing supported Dolby Vision.

So my guess this is yet another UHD Blu-ray player with only HDR10 support and no dynamic metadata support, either via their own flavour of it (since HDMI 2.0a wouldn't support it, and this unit is HDMI 2.0a) or with Dolby Vision support (since it's a standard competing against Philips' own standard).

I assume it will downrez to 1080p. I'd need that since I have no 4K display. Still, if no Dolby Vision support, I'll likely pass, unless this turns out to be some stellar unit in other ways or something.


I like these smaller sized items...
Small works for me. I temporarily moved Samsung K8500 from Media Room to try out new Insignia 43" 4K UHD (for $350-no HDR) TV/Monitor. The Philips BDP7503 would take up 1/2 the desktop room.
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Does anyone know if the Philips UHD player will be able to down-convert HDR and WCG independently to SDR and/or rec709 like the Panny UB900?
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Funny how its bieng released next month yet seems Philips not talking about it much...
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Funny how its bieng released next month yet seems Philips not talking about it much...


I too was wondering why no further info on the upcoming Philips BDP7501 release. I found this interesting bit about the
SoC chip provider for UHD(HDR) 4K Bluray players.
Of interest is the statement about Mass Production in the second half of 2016.
I'm hoping Philips has the batch they need to meet the annoucement of June 2016 release. We'll see.

"...The MediaTek MT8581 can support Blu-ray, DVD and CD

playback, including the latest BD-ROM format, such as BD-

Live and BonusView. It will allow consumers to both scale up

to 4K from DVD and scale down to a non-4K screen to

accommodate both legacy and cutting-edge screens and

discs. It features HEVC, H.264 and VP9 4K 60p video decoder

for 4K (3840x2160) video content and also MPEG-2, VP8 and

VC-1 2K 60p video decoder for legacy 2K (1920x1080 video

content). For audio decoding, it has capabilities for Advanced

Audio Coding (AAC), Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby

TrueHD, DTS, and DTS-HD master audio, via multi-format

decoding, that can support high quality audio streaming.
With mass production set for the second half of 2016,

MediaTek's MT8581 for UHD 4K Blu-ray players marks the

latest in a series of leading home entertainment products..."

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http://www.digchip.com/companies_news/2016/2016_01_04 2.php#EN9032004012016-1

http://mediatek.com/en/news-events/m...u-ray-players/
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MediaTek MT8581
How do you know the Philips is using this SoC? Cuz if it is, that would suggest the players wouldn't be out until fall or later, unless Philips got some initial run before everyone else.
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How do you know the Philips is using this SoC? Cuz if it is, that would suggest the players wouldn't be out until fall or later, unless Philips got some initial run before everyone else.


From fudzilla:
http://fudzilla.com/news/39718-samsu...arriving-early


"...As of the beginning of 2016, there are only three initial 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc players to choose from. They include the Samsung UBD-K8500, the Panasonic DMP-UB900 (also available to pre-order for $399 but will cost significantly more), and the Philips BDP7501, launching this Spring with an estimated price “under $400.”

As we wrote on Friday, MediaTek’s octa-core MT8581 will be the SoC of choice to power all three initial Ultra HD Blu-ray players. This SoC will give all three players support for 4K HEVC, 4K H.264 and 4K VP9 decoding at 3840x2160p and also MPEG-2, VP8 and VC-1 decoding at 1920x1080p for legacy video content. All three players also support High Dynamic Range (HDR) and the Rec.2020 wide color gamut space..."
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Maybe fud is right, but back in the day when chasing info on CPU's/cards it seemed it was often not.

Why waste $ on more cheap stuff, it's like challenging a dragon with a pocket knife.
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