Originally Posted by DLCPhoto
As release of this player gets closer, I'm having second thoughts about buying it vs some competitors (e.g. the Philips unit). Especially if it is going for $599 instead of the $499 that has been spoken of/hoped for. I know it's only $100 difference, but it did get my attention, and lead me to re-examine my plans.
My gear is all HDCP 2.2 HDMI 2.0a compatible:
JVC RS400 Projector
7.1.4 Dolby/Atmos Audio all fed directly from my Marantz receiver, so the pre-outs of the Oppo would be irrelevant for me.
Roku Premiere+, which while a little buggy at the moment, does provide access to UHD/HDR from Amazon and Netflix (also YouTube, but I watch little of that). So I wouldn't need streaming from the Oppo, even if/when it is added down the road.
I had been planning all along on the Oppo, especially if it has on release, or not too long afterwards, the ability to provide 4k/BT2020 SDR, which would be good to have as an option.
The Dolby Vision option is interesting, but given all the unknowns (how effective the implementation would be for JVC Projectors, when discs will be available, how long before widespread content is available, how much improvement/difference it would provide vs HDR10, etc.), I'm not sure this will enter into my decision making process.
Resale value is not that much of an issue for me, as I tend to hold onto gear, passing it on to kids, other rooms, etc.
So I find myself asking whether it is worth paying $599 for the Oppo vs for example the Philips unit, now on sale at BB for $230. Even if I end up wanting the Fury Integral, the total price would be $480, even without any sale on the Fury. And I could have the Philips now.
Build quality, firmware updates, customer support are important factors, but while I know it is ultimately a personal choice, and unanswerable, I am asking myself if it is worth spending that much more for the Oppo vs the Philips. The Panasonic is well thought of, but currently at $699, that's an even less cost effective choice.
I understand there are no 'right or wrong' answers here, but I would appreciate others thoughts on the dilemma here. Without a test unit to assess actual picture quality, this decision is even more difficult. I need objective data to support claims of picture superiority of any one unit vs another, as subjective reports are just that - subjective, and therefore readily influenced by a wide variety of typically unconscious biases.
I've owned two Oppo's now. They are great products. Well made, well thought out… and until now, ahead of the market. Oppo was important to me because of the DAC's. The current modern theater format is Atmos and it no longer provides that solution. Now, it just passes it along, so another device needs to convert it to analog. To me, that's the most important audio feature and it isn't special or cutting edge this time with the most relavent theater audio format.
So what's left... well next on my list of importance is streaming. We don't know if it will do that, but likely not… strike 2.
So it's probably better made but doesn't do the most important things to me. So that leaves it only as a transport. I'll probably just buy whatever's cheapest. I might pay more for one that has a good streaming app.
It's not that the Oppo won't be well made, Its just that it doesn't do anything I care about above and beyond what they all do.
I recently sold my Oppo 105. It brought good money used and that says something. But truthfully the old Sony blue ray player I hooked up in its place is ok. No wonderful DAC'S, but the pictures good, not as good but close.
So when I get a new Tv (looking at the Sony XBR75X940D, but I'm too poor) and having to buy a pre to do the Decoding, (should have next week Marantz 7703) my next purchase will be a 4K transport. Looking forward to Atmos but Oppo probably won't be a part of my system moving forward.