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In the user manual it states ' Dynamic Range Compression is applied to the analog audio output and digital audio outputs (HDMI, Coaxial and Optical) when the audio format is set to PCM. ' If I want the player to internally decode and send out PCM via HDMI than DRC is always applied? Is this true of most players?
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In the user manual it states ' Dynamic Range Compression is applied to the analog audio output and digital audio outputs (HDMI, Coaxial and Optical) when the audio format is set to PCM. ' If I want the player to internally decode and send out PCM via HDMI than DRC is always applied? Is this true of most players?
They mean when you have DRC turned on. You can turn it off.

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Once you select "Strip Metadata", is that always stripped, or do you have to do that for each disc?
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They mean when you have DRC turned on. You can turn it off.

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That's not how it reads to me. It's on the top of page 68 in the manual.
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Once you select "Strip Metadata", is that always stripped, or do you have to do that for each disc?
It's a persistent setting.

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That's not how it reads to me. It's on the top of page 68 in the manual.
Well, "Off" is at the bottom of the previous page. If DRC is off it's not applied to anything.

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kind of a gray area to ask here as it has to do with the player but also a 3rd party remote but, I want to have my harmony one programmed and ready to go when my player arrives next week; anyone know how long it usually takes logitech to have remote profiles out? going over the remote buttons in the manual there are options that Im sure the 103 profile does not have (ie the HDR button)
I created a ticket with Logitech's support yesterday asking them to import all commands from the IR spreadsheet. We'll see if that goes anywhere.

In the meantime, the commands from previous models will work for the majority of the commands according to the 203's support page.
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I know it's been said that the analog outs (particularly the analog sub out) are simultaneously active with the HDMI outs. But for those who actually own Crowson or other transducers, can you please confirm that the analog outs are indeed active while using the HDMI outs? I got burned with the (expensive) Panasonic UB900 which does not have this feature----even though every single one of their previous players with analog outs had this capability. Just would like to know for this for sure BEFORE I order an OPPO.
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I created a ticket with Logitech's support yesterday asking them to import all commands from the IR spreadsheet. We'll see if that goes anywhere.

In the meantime, the commands from previous models will work for the majority of the commands according to the 203's support page.
And also in the meantime, you could have your Harmony "learn" those few buttons that aren't currently covered.

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Harmony Remote Owners! I have only had my Harmony 950 a couple of weeks and finally got it setup for my devices. My 203 S/B here on Thursday . A search of the Harmony Compatibility Website of course does not at this time indicate the 203 as supported. The 1xx series had 2 HDMI inputs and I guess that there are a few other button changes with the 203.
I have no idea how to contact Harmony support to find out when the 203 will be in the database. Have any of you guys tried to contact them as when it will be supported? If not and you do know how to get an answer to the question would you do so and post results here?
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Asked and answered a couple times. Maybe this should go in the FAQ. Harmony has a device listing called "Oppo Home Theater" which is the closest. There's a couple added commands you can teach to a soft or hard button.
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Once people start receiving there new units I'd be curious to see a comparison chart between the 103 and 203 without the obvious 4K and hdr capabilities. I'm curious what new features we might find besides or we may have lost from previous generation.


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settings exactly as recommended by JVC on their web page ... to the letter !

yes disappointing.... look forward to hearing how you find it... I hope have better luck... its such a popular combination with people running D&M gear in processors and avrs and jvc projectors ... so hope oppo fix this FAST all I suspect they have to do is make the resolution of the oppo menu what ever you get with Custom (1080p Auto) setting

anyways I've logged a note with oppo digital support...lets see how this goes

Maybe I missed it but out of curiosity, how long is the cable from your Marantz to the JVC?


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Once people start receiving there new units I'd be curious to see a comparison chart between the 103 and 203 without the obvious 4K and hdr capabilities. I'm curious what new features we might find besides or we may have lost from previous generation.
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Thanks Mike. I looked thru the thread but missed it. Strange they didn't mention that. They made it seem there would be a specific rack kit for the UDP-203...
I'm pretty sure the info you were given is correct: that the rack mount kits for the BDP-103 will NOT be compatible with the UDP-203 and a new kit will be needed (and available soon as they told you).

Middle Atlantic custom rack shelf faces might be close enough to work well enough. But the UDP-203's dimensions are slightly different, so Middle Atlantic will most likely have a new faceplate available in the near future after someone sends them one to measure.
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I have an older player (Denon AVR 4520) that is HDMI 1.4a and therefor not HDCP 2.2 compliant. I plan to hook the UPD-203 directly to my LG OLED B6 but was wondering if there would be an advantage using analog outputs to the receiver rather than the HDMI audio output on the UPD-203 to the receiver? My system is setup as 7.1 so no Atmos.
The Denon AVR-4520CI is an excellent receiver (I use one in my second system). Especially if you want to make use of Audyssey on the AVR-4520CI, I would use HDMI for audio rather than the analog outputs. But as Bill suggested, there's no harm in trying both options and deciding for yourself.
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I created a ticket with Logitech's support yesterday asking them to import all commands from the IR spreadsheet. We'll see if that goes anywhere.

In the meantime, the commands from previous models will work for the majority of the commands according to the 203's support page.
All they really need to do is import the new commands that were added (such as HDR). The existing commands (Stop, Play, and so on) that are common across all the various Oppo Bluray players are identical going all the way back to the BDP-83.
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I'm pretty sure the info you were given is correct: that the rack mount kits for the BDP-103 will NOT be compatible with the UDP-203 and a new kit will be needed (and available soon as they told you).

Middle Atlantic custom rack shelf faces might be close enough to work well enough. But the UDP-203's dimensions are slightly different, so Middle Atlantic will most likely have a new faceplate available in the near future after someone sends them one to measure.
It was mentioned someplace that the 10x rack mounts won't work because they interfere with the 203's wifi antenna.
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Thanks Mike. I looked thru the thread but missed it. Strange they didn't mention that. They made it seem there would be a specific rack kit for the UDP-203...
I was told that the rack mount was different on the 203 than the 103 since there is a wireless connectivity inside the box on one side?
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I know it's been said that the analog outs (particularly the analog sub out) are simultaneously active with the HDMI outs. But for those who actually own Crowson or other transducers, can you please confirm that the analog outs are indeed active while using the HDMI outs? I got burned with the (expensive) Panasonic UB900 which does not have this feature----even though every single one of their previous players with analog outs had this capability. Just would like to know for this for sure BEFORE I order an OPPO.
Yes, the analog outputs and HDMI audio output are always both active, just as with previous Oppo players.
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The Denon AVR-4520CI is an excellent receiver (I use one in my second system). Especially if you want to make use of Audyssey on the AVR-4520CI, I would use HDMI for audio rather than the analog outputs. But as Bill suggested, there's no harm in trying both options and deciding for yourself.
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It was mentioned someplace that the 10x rack mounts won't work because they interfere with the 203's wifi antenna.
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I was told that the rack mount was different on the 203 than the 103 since there is a wireless connectivity inside the box on one side?
I guess we have a consensus...

But to be clear, there are 2 rack mount options.

The first is the rack mounts that Oppo has offered for each of its players, which have always attached to the sides and sometimes have small filler panels to adjust the height to fill up any partial rack space (so if the player is 1.5 rack spaces tall, there would be a .5 height filler).

The second is Middle Atlantic's RSH custom rack shelves. These are a complete shelf that the player sits on with a custom cut faceplate that the front of the player goes through. These have the advantage of making for a very consistent, clean rack where the only difference is what sticks through the faceplate on each shelf, but these tend to take up more rack space (which may not be a bad thing as it encourages having some air flow in the rack). This option typically costs more than the ears Oppo sells. The cutout for the BDP-103 might be close enough in size that it could work for the UDP-203, but no guarantees on that; it would probably be best to wait until Middle Atlantic adds the UDP-203 to their database. If someone is in a hurry, you can send your UDP-203 to them and they'll figure out the dimensions, add it to their database, and send the player back to you. I did this once (with a non-Oppo product) and if my recollection is good, I had to pay to ship the item to them and they covered the return shipping. The turnaround time was pretty quick.
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I'm pretty sure the info you were given is correct: that the rack mount kits for the BDP-103 will NOT be compatible with the UDP-203 and a new kit will be needed (and available soon as they told you).

Middle Atlantic custom rack shelf faces might be close enough to work well enough. But the UDP-203's dimensions are slightly different, so Middle Atlantic will most likely have a new faceplate available in the near future after someone sends them one to measure.
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Will the Oppo make my 4k movies look any better than my Xbox one S?

Will the Oppo make my Bluray movies look any better than my Xbox one S?

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Will the Oppo make my Bluray movies look any better than my Xbox one S?

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obviously 2 yes.
Otherwise it is "the end" for Oppo.
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obviously 2 yes.
Otherwise it is "the end" for Oppo.
This is probably better left for the blu-ray comparison thread about which one to buy. Oppo vs a $99 blu-ray player has always been about a LOT more than just playing back a 1080p/24 movie. Same with this model, so you cant just blanket tell someone a $550 player is better for them when there are sub $300 players that do a good job (Philips and Xbox S).

None of which means the end of Oppo, because Oppo offers more in their product than just simple disc playback, which most players do well now.
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How does the 203 DAC sound through the analog outs compared to previous 103 or earlier basic models? Would there be any noticeable SQ improvement by running SACD and CD payback out through the 7.1 analogs over just going HDMI to my Marantz AV7703 and relying on the Marantz DAC for output?

I am currently using my old 981HD through HDMI for audio playback and was told by OPPO reps a while back that upgrading to the 103 would provide no noticeable audio improvement over my current setup and that I would have to jump to the 105 to experience a noticeable improvement. At the time my pre-pro was an Onkyo that lacked 7.1 analog inputs. Now that I have the Marantz pre-pro with 7.1 inputs in place, I am wondering if there would be any benefit? The AV7703 is a new model so I assume the onboard DAC is fairly decent for a built-in. Does the new OPPO DAC offer any performance advantages?
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obviously 2 yes.
Otherwise it is "the end" for Oppo.
Thank you for your response. It will make Blu rays look better how exactly? Upscaling?

And what about 4k? Is both the X S and the Oppo both outputting the best 4k signal you can get?
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This is probably better left for the blu-ray comparison thread about which one to buy. Oppo vs a $99 blu-ray player has always been about a LOT more than just playing back a 1080p/24 movie. Same with this model, so you cant just blanket tell someone a $550 player is better for them when there are sub $300 players that do a good job (Philips and Xbox S).

None of which means the end of Oppo, because Oppo offers more in their product than just simple disc playback, which most players do well now.

Perhaps I was not clear. I wrote that if Oppo udp 203 don't offer more quality than one xbox s, then it is the end for oppo.

oppo manages to stay on the market thanks to the superior quality of its products.
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