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Samsung Unveils M9500 UHD Blu-ray Player Ahead of CES 2017

Samsung teases its new UHD Blu-ray player, the M9500, ahead of CES 2017. I've posted what information is available here: http://www.avsforum.com/samsung-unve...d-of-ces-2017/

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"The player will automatically adjust TV video and audio settings based on source content, in order to provide the most optimal viewing experience possible with support for HDR video..."

Wondering if this will mean compensation for the lack of sufficient lumens...particularly in the case for projectors.
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"The player will automatically adjust TV video and audio settings based on source content, in order to provide the most optimal viewing experience possible with support for HDR video..."

Wondering if this will mean compensation for the lack of sufficient lumens...particularly in the case for projectors.
But how? It can not produce the lumens...
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That never learned their lesson from TV's, Didn't they?
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Samsung teases its new UHD Blu-ray player, the M9500, ahead of CES 2017. I've posted what information is available here: http://www.avsforum.com/samsung-unve...d-of-ces-2017/
Support for Dolby Vision is interesting (if confirmed).
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Damn that curve!
The player causes less stress that way .
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Let's hope they spend more than $2 on the bundled remote this cycle. The K8500's remote is atrocious.
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But how? It can not produce the lumens...
Just a play on the comment and wishful thinking...

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Support for Dolby Vision is interesting (if confirmed).
If it's confirmed, I would bet that their 2017 tv lineup will support DV too.

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If it's confirmed, I would bet that their 2017 tv lineup will support DV too.
please let this be true. HDR10 is ok, but even streaming DV looks better IMO from a contrast standpoint. I can only image DV on physical media.

I guess the only downside is I already have 20+ HDR10 blu rays =/
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Damn that curve!
Took the words right out of my mouth lol

C'mon Samsung we all don't have curved TV's and it's not like all of your TV's are curved anyways....
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Support for Dolby Vision is interesting (if confirmed).
Where does it say anything about Dolby Vision? All I am reading is:

The player will automatically adjust TV video and audio settings based on source content, in order to provide the most optimal viewing experience possible with support for HDR video


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Where does it say anything about Dolby Vision? All I am reading is:

The player will automatically adjust TV video and audio settings based on source content, in order to provide the most optimal viewing experience possible with support for HDR video


There's zero mention of Dolby Vision in the press release so I don't know where that came from. That doesn't mean the player will or won't support it, but right now there is no hint or clue to speculate upon because it was not mentioned anywhere. It certainly one of the questions I will ask when at CES.
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Hopefully this time, Samsung let us turn off the noise reduction on the chroma channels. They didn't on their first UHD BD player (not sure if it affected UHD BD or just standard BD though).

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Let's hope they spend more than $2 on the bundled remote this cycle. The K8500's remote is atrocious.
You beat me to it. I hate the remote and the very cheap build of the player itself. If the price is too high the Oppo will still be the one to get.
I had a feeling this was coming since the current model is now being blown out at Costco.
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You guys use the remotes that came with your devices or in this particular case the Samsung player? I use my harmony or my Tablet for such.
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Interesting that "M" is the 2017 letter for Samsung models. "J" was 2015, "K" was 2016, so I expected "L" for 2017.

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Wonder how the player will optimize video settings of the TVs, could be similar to BD Wise... still they gotta come up with some kinda new gimmick after Panasonic and Oppo are blowing the K8500's picture quality out of the water. Hope there's an option for Native Resolution or option or change it on the fly.

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Samsung teases its new UHD Blu-ray player, the M9500, ahead of CES 2017. I've posted what information is available here: http://www.avsforum.com/samsung-unve...d-of-ces-2017/
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Nothing in article about Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos Yes!
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Wonder how the player will optimize video settings of the TVs, could be similar to BD Wise... still they gotta come up with some kinda new gimmick after Panasonic and Oppo are blowing the K8500's picture quality out of the water. Hope there's an option for Native Resolution or option or change it on the fly.
I don't want new gimmicks, instead I just want a firmware fixes for the K8500 chroma bugs and forced noise reduction on the Cb and Cr channels.
Native resolution would be good too. No need for a completely new model for all these to be delivered.

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Notably, the photo provided with the press release clearly shows that this player has a front panel display, a useful feature that the Samsung’s current K8500 UHD Blu-ray player lacks.
Many thanks. Were you not allowed to use the photo you describe? The one in the article very clearly shows the lack of a front panel display!

And I wholeheartedly agree that displays are good. I hate the recent downgrade to "onscreen overlay only" information. I want to see "time remaining" of a movie, on the front panel, at a glance.
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I don't want new gimmicks, instead I just want a firmware fixes for the K8500 chroma bugs and forced noise reduction on the Cb and Cr channels.
Native resolution would be good too. No need for a completely new model for all these to be delivered.
Knowing samsung though, they'd rather sell you a brand spankin new UHD player than fix the one you already got for free.

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Many thanks. Were you not allowed to use the photo you describe? The one in the article very clearly shows the lack of a front panel display!

And I wholeheartedly agree that displays are good. I hate the recent downgrade to "onscreen overlay only" information. I want to see "time remaining" of a movie, on the front panel, at a glance.
Say what? The opposite is true.

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Interesting that "M" is the 2017 letter for Samsung models. "J" was 2015, "K" was 2016, so I expected "L" for 2017.
Samsung does that with their model codes sometimes. 2008-2013 was A-F respectively but then they skipped G and went to H for 2014 and then skipped I in favor of J for 2015. Maybe they skipped L because they used that in their old plasma models? If they follow history they will go M, N, P, R, S, T which were 2002-2007 models respectively.

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Wonder how the player will optimize video settings of the TVs, could be similar to BD Wise... still they gotta come up with some kinda new gimmick after Panasonic and Oppo are blowing the K8500's picture quality out of the water. Hope there's an option for Native Resolution or option or change it on the fly.

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I don't want new gimmicks, instead I just want a firmware fixes for the K8500 chroma bugs and forced noise reduction on the Cb and Cr channels.
Native resolution would be good too. No need for a completely new model for all these to be delivered.
And I wholeheartedly agree that displays are good. I hate the recent downgrade to "onscreen overlay only" information. I want to see "time remaining" of a movie, on the front panel, at a glance.
I'm told it will run Tizen, so that's one feature I'm looking forward to. I've never really cared for the UI on any of the Blu-Ray players, with the exception of the Sonys.
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Say what? The opposite is true.

Fugly, with a useless display. But if it works as good as my UBD K8500 I guess it will be alright.

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Samsung does that with their model codes sometimes. 2008-2013 was A-F respectively but then they skipped G and went to H for 2014 and then skipped I in favor of J for 2015. Maybe they skipped L because they used that in their old plasma models? If they follow history they will go M, N, P, R, S, T which were 2002-2007 models respectively.
I think they'll always deliberately skip "L" (and "G" when the codes reset) as long as a certain South Korean rival continues to make TVs that cut into their market share.
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