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OFFICIAL Sony UBP-X800 Owners Thread (No Price Talk)



Dolby Vision: No support announced from Sony at this time.

Firmware / Service info:

Service update Released April 28th. New apps added:
Mubi, Sirius XM, Slacker Radio and Berlin Philharmonic

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Firmware M36.R.0173 Released April 26th 2017 (USA/CA)
Adds supports for additional network services (YouTube™ and Spotify® Connect)
Expands 4K UHD content availability for some TVs
Changes the background of the UI (user interface)

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Service update April 12th added Hulu, MLB, iHeart Radio, WWE Network, Pandora

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Firmware M36.R.0111 Released 2nd March 2017 (USA). Adds support for Amazon Video 4K, Vudu and Opera TV store apps platform.

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Current USA apps:

Netflix (4K, HDR Support, Dolby Digital, 24fps)
Amazon Video (4K, Dolby Digital +, 24fps)
YouTube (4K, HDR Support, 24fps)
Vudu (3D support, Dolby Digital +, 24fps)
Opera TV Store
Hulu Plus
MLB
iHeart Radio
WWE Network
Pandora
Spotify Connect
Crackle
Mubi,
Sirius XM,
Slacker Radio
Berlin Philharmonic
Fox News
Yupp TV

Sony's first Ultra HD Blu-Ray player announced at CES 2017



Price: $299 (USA)

Features
  • 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray playback
  • 4K HDR to SDR conversion (
    When playing 4K HDR content on a 4K SDR television the UBP-X800 utilizes a unique Sony algorithm that you can adjust to reproduce the proper brightness and color gradations to provide the best picture possible.)
  • 3D Support
  • Multi disc playback (DVD-V, DVD-A, Bluray, 3D Bluray, SACD, CD, UHD)
  • 4K HDR support (HDR10)
  • Dolby® Atmos and DTS:X support
  • Support for the new BT.2020 color spaces
  • High resolution audio support
  • DSEE HX audio enhancement for audio files
  • Unique frame-and-beam chassis offers a rigid structure to eliminate micro-vibrations
  • Network playback (DLNA and USB)
  • Streaming services/Apps (See Above).
  • Bluetooth audio (with LDAC) and multi-room support with SongPal app
  • Coaxial digital, Ethernet and Twin HDMI outputs. Front USB port.
  • Screen mirroring (Android)
  • 2 Free UHD disks through offer below.

Specifications


Disc BD-ROM, CD (CD-DA), CD-R/-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Double Layer, DVD+RW, DVD-Audio, DVD-R, DVD-RAM, DVD-R Dual Layer, DVD-RW, DVD-Video, SA-CD (SA-CD / CD) Playback, Stereoscopic 3D (profile 5), Ultra HD Blu-ray™
Video format
AVCHD Disc Format, Motion JPEG (.mov, .avi), MPEG-1 Video/PS (.mpg, .MPEG, .mkv).VOB, .VRO, MPEG-2 Video/PS, TS (.mpg, .MPEG, .m2ts, .mts, .mkv).VOB, .VRO, MPEG-4/AVC (.mov, 3gp, .3g2, .3gpp, .3gpp2, .flv), MPEG-4 AVC (.mkv, .mp4, .m4v, .m2ts, .mts), VC1 (.m2ts, .mts, .mkv), WMV9 (.wmv, .asf, .mkv), Xvid (.avi, .mkv)
Audio Format
AAC (.AAC, .mka), AIFF (.aiff, .aif), ALAC (.m4a), Dolby® Digital (.ac3, .mka), DSD - DSDIFF/DSD (.dff, .dsf), FLAC (.flac, .fla), HEAAC v.1/v.2/level2, LP cm (.mka), Vorbis, WMA10 Pro, WMA9 Standard (.WMA)
Photo format
BMP (.bmp), GIF (.gif), JPEG (.jpg, .jpeg), MPO MPF 3D (.mpo), PNG (.png)

Dimensions (W x H x D)
W17 x H2 1/4 x D10 3/4 (inch); W430 x H54 x D270 (mm)
Weight 8 lb 7 oz (3.8 kg)

Picture Feature
4K Upscale (60p), HDR → SDR converter, Deep Color (12-bit), 24p True Cinema™
Certified Hi-Res Audio Yes
Dolby Dolby Atmos / Dolby® True HD decoding (7.1ch)
DTS
DTS decoding (7.1ch)
DSEE HX Yes
Bluetooth Bluetooth® TX, LDAC

USA release date: Available Feb 23rd 2017.
Other Territories TBC.

Buy now at: Amazon, Best Buy and B&H.


Support: Sony x800 eSupport

Promotions:




Limited time offer(2/10/17 to 11:59 PM PST on 09/30/17- Customers who purchase a Sony UBP-X800 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player between 2/10/17 - 9/30/17 will have the opportunity to receive two free Sony Pictures 4K Ultra HD Discs, from a selection of over 15+ titles. Visit www.sony.com/4kdiscbundle to see promotion and redemption details.

Movies included in promotion:

Pasengers, The 5th Wave, Angels and Demons, Chappie, Concussion, The Davinci Code, Inferno, Ghostbusters (2016), The Magnificent Seven, Pride+Prejudice+Zombies, Resident Evil: Afterlife, Risen, Salt, Sausage Party, Amazing Spiderman 2, Angry Birds Movie, The Shallows and Underworld.

Overview of X800 from Eric Kingdon (Sony Europe) :
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I don't have mine yet. I haven't even ordered it yet. I'm waiting for it to show up in the physical store at BestBuy before I make my purchase. I'm looking forward to pairing the Sony X800 with my Sony UHD TV and Sony Speaker bar. I've been using the Sammy UHD BD player with them for over a year now.

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I'm hoping this Sony will play nice with my Sony 4K PJ which is not HDR.
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Hoping to pick it up within a week or two, just need to read some reviews/impressions from AVS users first

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Will be picking one up tonight. Main need is hdr to sdr bt2020 conversion with an hdfury integral. I currently have the oppo and Panasonic players to compare. Oppo is already going back so it will be between the Panasonic and Sony. Not even sure if the Sony will be able to do sdr bt2020 with the intergal. If not that will make this an easy choice to return. If it does I'll need to do a lot of a/b comparison.

I'll post my findings and general impressions this weekend.
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For those who do get a chance to test out this player, can you let us know what apps it features? Specifically does it have Amazon 4K w/HDR, Netflix 4K w/HDR, VUDU w/UHD, Fandango Now, and Sony Ultra? Thanks.
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My Sony UBP-X800 is out for delivery. I live in Northern California area. Will be connected to my LG OLEDB6P UHD TV. Does anyone who has received theirs already know if it comes with the free 4K Ultra Blu-ray movies mentioned in the Amazon product page?
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I wish Sony had published the manual. Wife picked mine up so I will play with it tonight. would like to read what settings correlate with this:

"4K HDR to SDR conversion (
When playing 4K HDR content on a 4K SDR television the UBP-X800 utilizes a unique Sony algorithm that you can adjust to reproduce the proper brightness and color gradations to provide the best picture possible.)"
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As with the other threads (Oppo, Samsung, Panasonic) that we are transitioning from, please do not clog the thread with order status, waiting, etc.. Keep those to the announcement thread.
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My Sony UBP-X800 is out for delivery. I live in Northern California area. Will be connected to my LG OLEDB6P UHD TV. Does anyone who has received theirs already know if it comes with the free 4K Ultra Blu-ray movies mentioned in the Amazon product page?
Mine had a sticker on the outside of the box with the free movie offer information. It lists a website to go to where you fill in your name, address, etc. along withe the serial number of your unit. It states that after 2 or 3 business days, you will receive a redemption code via email which you then use to select the movies you want.
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So if I return mine, can I still qualify for the free UHD Movies?
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I'm hoping this Sony will play nice with my Sony 4K PJ which is not HDR.
I'm not knowledgeable about projectors, but there is an item in the setup menu called "Display Type". The two options to choose from are "TV" and "Projector".
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I'm not knowledgeable about projectors, but there is an item in the setup menu called "Display Type". The two options to choose from are "TV" and "Projector".
Thanks. I don't have one yet, but what I meant, because they're both Sony, they may fit well.
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I'm not knowledgeable about projectors, but there is an item in the setup menu called "Display Type". The two options to choose from are "TV" and "Projector".


That's really interesting that they have the choice, I wonder what choosing one or the other would cause the player to do differently.

Is it possible projector mode would strip hdr and send sdr bt2020 like every projector owner wants? Would be a good move by Sony.

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Received mine

first impression:
1. vudu and amazon does not work, needs software update, but there are no updates yet.
netflix seems to work, I did not login. NO SONY ULTRA 4K (big no-no for non Sony TV owners). No VUE, no playstation video. Needs further software update.


2. load time is very fast. faster than samsung k8500, philips, xbox. Comparable to OPPO

3. 4k 60p, mkv, dts hd through usb (like the s6500 I had), info shows HDR, if no hdr detected, it will show SDR, AV type.

4. overall feels solid, not like the plastic s6500. definitely feels higher quality than k8500, philips. smaller form factor than oppo, but feels just as heavy.

that's it for now.
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Whats under "all apps". Normal Sony junky apps ?
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Whats under "all apps". Normal Sony junky apps ?
the same ones in my screenshot. nothing else. not even junk
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first impression:
1. vudu and amazon does not work, needs software update, but there are no updates yet.
netflix seems to work, I did not login. NO SONY ULTRA 4K (big no-no for non Sony TV owners). No VUE, no playstation video. Needs further software update.

hows the pic quality compared to the sammy?


2. load time is very fast. faster than samsung k8500, philips, xbox. Comparable to OPPO

3. 4k 60p, mkv, dts hd through usb (like the s6500 I had), info shows HDR, if no hdr detected, it will show SDR, AV type.

4. overall feels solid, not like the plastic s6500. definitely feels higher quality than k8500, philips. smaller form factor than oppo, but feels just as heavy.

that's it for now.
hows the pic quality compared to the sammy?
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On accident I ended up with two. May just keep both anyway. Very nice unit. One of the hardest things is picking out which free two movies!!!! More to come.

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Observations:
  • Its quick
  • Handshake is WAY less quirky than my 900
  • Same menus as other players have had lately (no SBM anymore)
  • FW M36.R.0046, no update found
  • Connected to my 5ghz radio fine
  • Ramps up to 16,000 mbps on Netflix quick
  • Ultra HD, HDR and 5.1 all show in Netflix App
  • Netflix app still has debug info popup many machines have lost
  • Netflix HDR and HDR disc are 4k/24 2020 12 bit, as shown in pics below
  • Amazon app is not active yet
  • 1080p blu ss 4k/24 444 12 bits, as shown below
  • Pretty much all video settings left as "Auto"
  • PQ looks great to me on UHD discs and Netflix HDR
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When you get a chance can you take pics of the audio and video setup screens?.

Is that your 6500 in the back ground?. For size comparison.



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Observations:
  • Its quick
  • Handshake is WAY less quirky than my 900
  • Same menus as other players have had lately (no SBM anymore)
  • FW M36.R.0046, no update found
  • Connected to my 5ghz radio fine
  • Ramps up to 16,000 mbps on Netflix quick
  • Ultra HD, HDR and 5.1 all show in Netflix App
  • Netflix app still has debug info popup many machines have lost
  • Netflix HDR and HDR disc are 4k/24 2020 12 bit, as shown in pics below
  • Amazon app is not active yet
  • 1080p blu us 4k/24 444 12 bits, as show below
  • Pretty much all video settings left as "Auto"
  • PQ looks great to me on UHD discs and Netflix HDR
So is it sending 12 bit with Deep Color off? Or is Deep Color oN? Since Deep Color is typically recommended to be off.

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It is 12 bit all the time.

When DC is auto, where I left it, you get ycbcr 444 on 1080p, and the Marantz actually reports 12bit. WHen you turn it off it is 422, and where it should say bit depth it say ----, just like on the Panny 900 I have.
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BTW, I want 444, some may not. It is being reported some Denon and Marantz products from 2015 and 2016 have an issue with 422 10 and 12 bit, where they see banding unless they bypass the AVR. When using 444, there is not problem. I was going to set my Panny 900 to 444, but now that I have swapped I am going to leave all the video settings on the 800 to Auto and just see what happens.
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Couple of thoughts

1) This thing is heavy. Not sure why but for a set top box it is pretty heavy.
2) It is quite during playback
3) There is no status LED on the front (play, home etc.). Only a small green light that comes on when the unit is powered on. Its nice since it is not distracting while watching a movie but also feels weird.
4) The remote feels a bit cheap. Doesn't feel bad but doesn't feel premium. My $50 Sony BD player remote has a nicer feeling remote than this player.
5) BD player provisioning server connection server says failed. Not sure what the date was from SOny for BB to allow selling this device but maybe it later than the 24th and Sony got caught off guard. Amazon and Vudu need an app update to use. Netflix doesn't. Can't update apps until device is provisioned/updated.
6) This thing is big. Well wide anyways. I had a hard time getting it into my media cabinet. I had to remove a shelf so I could insert it vertically. (See pic attached)
7) Disc loading times for BD discs seems pretty fast. Not sure about UBD since I don't own any yet.
8) I've seen the Samsung and Philips UHB players at stores before and they feel cheap. The Sony feels like an expensive product (except for the remote).
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Ive taken a faulty 7200 apart before, the weight comes from that metal structure inside, from the image. Tons of weight there.
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Ive taken a faulty 7200 apart before, the weight comes from that metal structure inside, from the image. Tons of weight there.

Yeah there was a picture somewhere on the web of the chassis...pretty substantial!

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