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Cambridge unveils 4K UHD Blu-ray player (Discussion)

https://www.whathifi.com/news/cambri...blu-ray-player

To me, it looks like this new player is almost identical compared to the Oppo 203, including Dolby Vision support.

It doesn't have the analog outputs though.

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https://www.whathifi.com/news/cambri...blu-ray-player

To me, it looks like this new player is almost identical compared to the Oppo 203, including Dolby Vision support.

It doesn't have the analog outputs though.

Thoughts?
Strange. Never heard of this brand though it looks to be EU only. It certainly looks like the Oppo. Wonder if they licensed the design out or was it stolen?!

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Strange. Never heard of this brand though it looks to be EU only. It certainly looks like the Oppo. Wonder if they licensed the design out or was it stolen?!
Looks pretty much the same as their previous BD player (CXU). So in case somebody stole something (which I doubt), it's Oppo and not cambridge...

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Cambridge is a UK brand and has been around for a long time. Many U.S. direct internet audio sellers like Music Direct sell the brand. I have several Cambridge pieces. The only resemblance to OPPO apparent in this short news clip is that it is built in a metal box.
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Cambridge has done this with every single Oppo chassis dating back to the early DVD players. They're simply buying the chassis direct from the factory with their own design mods (if any). Typically the features are stripped down and price is jacked up.
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Cambridge has done this with every single Oppo chassis dating back to the early DVD players. They're simply buying the chassis direct from the factory with their own design mods (if any). Typically the features are stripped down and price is jacked up.


The price difference between the Oppo and the Cambridge players is 50 euros in the advantage of Cambridge.


Tough call. People in the US can buy an Oppo player for €500, in Holland the same things costs €900.
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The price difference between the Oppo and the Cambridge players is 50 euros in the advantage of Cambridge.


Tough call. People in the US can buy an Oppo player for €500, in Holland the same things costs €900.
Comparing prices, make sure both prices are in the same country. Either both UK or both Holland or both US.

Anyway, given the lack of any analog output on the Cambridge, the higher price seems silly to most people. Perhaps the Cambridge is aimed at pro installers and retailers who can discount the price.
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Cambridge has done this with every single Oppo chassis dating back to the early DVD players. They're simply buying the chassis direct from the factory with their own design mods (if any). Typically the features are stripped down and price is jacked up.
...in other words, an Oppo spelled backwards.

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Comparing prices, make sure both prices are in the same country. Either both UK or both Holland or both US.

Anyway, given the lack of any analog output on the Cambridge, the higher price seems silly to most people. Perhaps the Cambridge is aimed at pro installers and retailers who can discount the price.


Oppo price in Holland:
€900

Cambridge price in Holland
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https://www.whathifi.com/news/cambri...blu-ray-player

To me, it looks like this new player is almost identical compared to the Oppo 203, including Dolby Vision support.

It doesn't have the analog outputs though.

Thoughts?
Not just lacking analog outputs, according to Cambridge they stripped out the DACs also. The reason is that modern AVRs all have built in DACs.

Just say yes... To OPPO.
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So Oppo is the better one of the two?
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So Oppo is the better one of the two?
If the info on other sites is correct, the Cambridge player IS an OPPO 203, the chassis and universal drive, but no DACs, no analog outputs, and a different face plate.

So, if analog outs is a feature you are going to use, but want a universal drive that will handle all formats of discs, OPPO is the way to go.

If you are spinning UHD discs, and only using HDMI, and value tank like build quality, Cambridge has you covered.

If you want to play UHD discs, and have every streaming app in the player, LG, Sony, and Samsung got your back. Its nice to have variety and options.
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Not just lacking analog outputs, according to Cambridge they stripped out the DACs also. The reason is that modern AVRs all have built in DACs.
No need for DACs if there are no analog outputs.

But yes - for those in the USA it'll certainly be preferable to purchase the "original" product from Oppo.
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Why is this player even worth mentioning, since it costs MORE and does LESS than the Oppo?
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Why is this player even worth mentioning, since it costs MORE and does LESS than the Oppo?


Because of the Dolby Vision compatibility. Only a few players support this at the moment.
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Because of the Dolby Vision compatibility. Only a few players support this at the moment.
The Oppo also does DV, so I repeat my question.
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The Oppo also does DV, so I repeat my question.


And the price in Holland is cheaper.
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Why is this player even worth mentioning, since it costs MORE and does LESS than the Oppo?
Because not everyone on this forum lives in the USA?
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Because not everyone on this forum lives in the USA?
If it's cheaper outside the US than the Oppo, then point taken.
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Cambridge Audio has this product web page up since yesterday I noticed. Yes you can clearly see the similarities to Oppo on rear view.

https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/products/cx/cxuhd





At least you can see it is vented, no fan.

Using the latest technologies and our years of experience in quality home audio and cinema, our UHD player offers reference quality video playback. A customized quad-core video decoder integrates our advanced video decoding, processing and optimization expertise. The high-precision, balanced laser optical disc loader ensures smooth and reliable playback whichever disc you’re playing. Its mechanism provides super-fast loading with error detection and correction. The unit acts as a transport as we removed the internal DAC to decrease interference to the signal, improving quality by reducing video noise. The unit also seamlessly integrates into current CX and home cinema setups with its sleek finish and brushed aluminium front panel.

I have my doubts about the interference more likely it was done to abide with their recent AVR additions compared to when previous players were announced,

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Very disappointed with this product: no high-end DACs, no analogue outputs, much less dedicated analogue stereo outputs or balanced outputs.

Considering that the Oppo UDP-205 set the benchmark as far back as April, it is really disappointing that Cambridge Audio chose not to match, much less beat, the UDP-205 ☹️

I also do not buy the part about removing the DACs to reduce interference, sounds like marketing BS to me.

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from http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news...y-player/25534

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Under the lid, the CXUHD uses Mediatek's MTK8591 chipset, with video output settings then 'professionally calibrated' by Cambridge Audio engineers. 'Whatever you’re watching, you’ll find the dynamic range has been optimised, bringing natural colours and a film-like fluidity that you have never seen before,' says the company.

Build quality refinements of this high-end player include a 'high-precision, balanced laser optical disc loader' promising super-fast loading times with error detection and correction. The deck offers the same brushed aluminium front panel design and chassis styling as its CX stablemates.



so yes, looks like a stripped down Oppo 203
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Cambridge Audio's New CXUHD Ultra HD Blu-ray Player Features Dolby Vision

The latest Ultra HD Blu-ray player comes from the English brand Cambridge Audio. It offers premium build quality and support for Dolby Vision HDR. Click this link to read more: Cambridge Audio Announces CXUHD Ultra HD Blu-ray Player with Dolby Vision

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So if you live in the US there is zero reason to get this over an Oppo, got it.
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So you pay more for a stripped version of an Oppo 203... thats going to be a tough sale in the US at least in my opinion. They need to from the start be priced lower that the 203 so for around $450 to $500 to have a real chance.

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Why buy today an outdated HDMI 2.0 connection
When another 3 months the products that reach will be HDMI 2.1
The differences are enormous.

https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/

https://sapphirenation.net/what-will...for-pc-gaming/

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Why buy today an outdated HDMI 2.0 connection

When another 3 months the products that reach will be HDMI 2.1

The differences are enormous.



https://www.cnet.com/news/hdmi-2-1-w...-need-to-know/



https://sapphirenation.net/what-will...for-pc-gaming/



http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php...&id=1483572084


Because not everyone is capable of upgrading to new gear every year! Every source in the chain must be updated to enjoy the full potential of the system, just like people are doing now with hdr and Dolby Vision gear (TV, avr, player).
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I always felt my CA spinner sounded better than my Oppo 103D in stereo.

I need a second UHD. I may buy one and decide if it or the Panasonic I currently have gets moved to the secondary system.

CA makes great products.

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So if you live in the US there is zero reason to get this over an Oppo, got it.
Not true and a compare would need to be completed.

past compares:

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-page-2

http://hometheaterreview.com/cambrid...l-disc-player/

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Not true and a compare would need to be completed.

past compares:

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-player-page-2

http://hometheaterreview.com/cambrid...l-disc-player/

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What I was most curious about was the audio, and whether the Cambridge approach would make a noticeable difference or improvement over my reference Oppo BDP-105, which, at $100 less, is within spitting distance of the Azur 752BD. The Azur takes a vastly different approach to audio processing. Cambridge Audio has employed an Analog Devices DSP to up-sample all digital audio to 192 kHz/24-bit to reduce jitter and improve the sound. From there it goes to its Wolfson DACs, of which there are five, for digital to analog conversion. By comparison, the Oppo uses the Sabre32 Reference DAC. Cambridge Audio also employs some proprietary filters to allow users to try some different options for their anti-aliasing filters, which are a necessary (and often audible) component for digital-to-analog conversion.
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Sure have a compare, CA completely removed their audio processing CCA in this player as they now make their own AVR's and don't see the point of DAC duplication.

Note the 203 now incorporates the 32-bit AKM ak4458vn DAC's. Other then the physical design changes, the previous two reviews equate most of the differences were with audio processing, not the power supply or with video processing. So other then the Software GUI differences what do you have left? Its likely it weighs less!

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