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North American release 2007.....unless they can do multiple regions, but they won't.

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Sony has been anything but talkative these past few months regarding their plans for PlayStation 3. No one except Sony seemed to anticipate they'd continue to meet their projected spring release date in any territory, even Japan.

Today, Sony officially conceded defeat to the recent flurry of rumors and speculation, with Japanese newspaper Nihon Keizai Shimbun reporting the company has confirmed the machine has been pushed back until November.

There aren't many details out right now, but Sony says issues over the finalizatoin of copy protection technology related to their Blu-ray disc drive is the cause of the delay.

As the news is coming out of Japan, that creates a worrisome scenario for America and Europe. There was already rumblings Sony wouldn't be able to launch in all territories before the end of the year, but missing out on the Christmas season over here could prove a deadly blow to Sony's next-generation plans.

Somewhere in Microsoft's offices, Bill Gates just opened a bottle of champagne. With more details expected at tomorrow's PlayStation conference and the Game Developers Conference just around the corner, it appears the flood gates (for good or ill) are about to be unleashed.
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No rumor.
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http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/...14D14JFF04.htm

PlayStation 3 Rollout Postponed Until November

TOKYO (Nikkei)--Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. will delay the release of its PlayStation 3 next-generation video game console until early November because the copy protection technology for the Blu-ray Disc has not been finalized, The Nihon Keizai Shimbun learned Tuesday.
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No official press release from Sony, yet. But probably will come out tomorrow.

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14-Mar-06 12:28 ET In Play Sony to delay the release of its PlayStation 3 next-generation video game console - DJ (SNE) 47.48 +0.71: Dow Jones reporting that Sony Computer Entertainment will delay the release of its PlayStation 3 next-generation video game console until early November because the copy protection technology for the Blu-ray Disc has not been finalized, The Nihon Keizai Shimbun reported in its Wednesday morning edition.
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PS3: Sale in November first decade in postponement next generation DVD standard lag

The SONY * computer entertainment (the SCE) on the 14th, new model game machine " place t Shaun who this spring has been planned (PS) it decided that sale time of 3 " is postponed to November first decade. It announces on the 15th. Because the next generation DVD the " blue ray, you adopt as record medium of the game software * disk " which (the BD) the standard making and the like is not prepared mass production system lately. Sale postponement of the PS3 where worldwide hit is anticipated may produce delicate effect to also the share dispute of the next generation game machine.

The same company the May last year, " the spring of 06 " had announced the sale time of the PS3, but the standard decision regarding the copyright protection of the BD which is the expectation which on end of the last year is collected in industry was late, according to schedule it became not be able to mass produce. According to the authorized personnel, if this spring sale, in order at the beginning 500000 only commodities can be gathered, industry necessity for early shipment becomes the prospect that it is less than 2500000 units which are estimate substantially to avoid the confusion of the consumer with item insufficiency, ahead we had decided sale to extend.

In the new model game machine, besides the fact that the American Microsoft which has been sold already " Xbox360 " low is a possibility of assuming price offensive posture, in the plan where also Nintendo Co. sells new model machine " revolution " within year, there is a possibility the consumer flowing to the other companies product with sale postponement of the PS3.

Concerning sale postponement, Katayama glory as for one * Nomura Securities Co., Ltd. financial economic laboratory senior analyst " is not and because standard decision is late, it isn't because the function where the software and the game machine which can be sold are new is not enough?" it presumes. Because as for the PS3 you are proud of the high function the super like computer, as for sale price to become high, it is more secure than the level which 30000 - 40000 Yen of machine is said until recently. Because of this, if there is no function and a software which become the eyeball it is difficult at a stroke to extend the sale quantity.

The SCE denies such indication. If the contents on Internet (contents of information) and the like the new game software which such as function is combined and net auction et cetera as the next generation DVD re-gray fabric which looks at the high fine movie is thrown, sufficiently demand sees it is, strongly.

Presently, 5 corporation the in major movie company 6 of American Hollywood states the entry to the BD camp, the HD which Toshiba and the like recommends - the DVD camp is overwhelmed. The October last year, Paramount Motion Pictures which is HD support " as for one of the deciding factor of BD entry as loading to the PS3 " explained, this spring of the PS3 schedule of sale had become the trump of the BD camp. By the fact that that sale time is postponed, there is a possibility attitude of the movie company shaking delicately.

In addition there is also a possibility of exerting influence on the SONY itself achievement. Throwing 200000000000 Yen, in the new model semiconductor just " the cell " which it developed and the game machine which loads the BD, " with the PS3 the failure is not permitted ", voice is strong. It is observed whether sale postponement how echos in trend of the consumer. < Valley oral 崇 child >

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Ok, try this title. That ought to work until Sony admits it.

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you mods can be a real pisser....
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Yeah, but we're SO huggable :D

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While we wait for sony to make it official, sell your stock! j/k
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Sony's 5th generation console Japanese launch is delayed until November. No word on US launch date.

Furthermore, it is also confirmed that Sony could have only 500K units at launch, so supply will be extremely short.
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Methinks they're being a bit disingenuous, blaming it on copyright protection issues. By all reports, the Cell is a bitch to produce, and I find it much more likely that's the real reason. Of course, "We can't manufacture our CPU very well" doesn't sound as forgivable to the press/investors as, "Those damned AACS people screwed us again!"

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Based on what the news story is saying, it would mean the system would launch in the US first.

Look at what the story says: "Sony says issues over the finalizatoin of copy protection technology related to their Blu-ray disc drive is the cause of the delay." Well, we know that Blu-Ray will be in the US May 23rd. So it must not be a problem in the US (has there been a Japanese Blu-Ray launch date announced?). That would mean we get the PS3 here first.

Of course, this all smells like BS to me, and I'll wait a few more hours until the official announcement is made.
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If the Japanese launch doesn't occur until November, that could put any hope of a US launch in 2006 in jeopardy - which would give rival Microsoft a second Christmas on the market before the arrival of PS3 in the US as well as in Europe, as well as giving Nintendo a head-start with the Revolution console.
There would be the news, if it turns out that way.

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SONY would never release in the USA first. Never have they and never will they.

BluRay players are due out soon, to coincide with the release of the BluRay discs in May.

Ps3 on the other hand is being stifled by it's own ubber technology. BluRay, as I have said in the past, is very picky and tricky.
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Japan launch november
USA launch 2007

http://www.psxextreme.com/scripts/ps....asp?newID=134

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2485&Itemid=2

Considering that the original report came from a Japanese newspaper, it is assumed that the Novemeber release date is intended for Japan. Unless there is a simultaneous release in the US, as well, domestic gamers may not see the PS3 until 2007. If the Blu-ray copy protection isn't finished, that may also delay the release of Sony's standalone players for the new format
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By all reports, the Cell is a bitch to produce, and I find it much more likely that's the real reason.
No, they are blaming the delay on Blu-Ray.
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So, drop Blu-ray. Get it out now.

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No, they are blaming the delay on Blu-Ray.
As always, your reading comprehension suffers in this area.

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So, drop Blu-ray. Get it out now.
They can't. Even Square says they don't know what kind of machine Sony's 5th generation console is, ie they still haven't got the final kit.

I say SCEI is at least 6 months behind schedule right now. This is the reason SCEI is preparing to launch PSP2 and a new Network Sony 4th generation console(I don't know that that means) this Xmas to cover for the 5th generation console's delay.
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No, they are blaming the delay on Blu-Ray.
But what we're saying is we don't believe that's the whole story.

If PS3 were otherwise able to go, but was only being held back by Blu-Ray, there would be evidence that was the case. We would see lots of real in-game footage being released showing the power of the Cell and what Sony's next-gen will look like. One can't explain the lack of game footage by pointing to Blu-Ray, because they could easily play the games off a hard drive if that was the only problem.
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But what we're saying is we don't believe that's the whole story.

If PS3 were otherwise able to go, but was only being held back by Blu-Ray, there would be evidence that was the case. We would see lots of real in-game footage being released showing the power of the Cell and what Sony's next-gen will look like. One can't explain the lack of game footage by pointing to Blu-Ray, because they could easily play the games off a hard drive if that was the only problem.
We would not see Samsung promising a Blu-ray player in May.

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They can't. Even Square says they don't know what kind of machine Sony's 5th generation console is, ie they still haven't got the final kit.
So, there is more to it than Blu-ray.

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We would not see Samsung promising a Blu-ray player in May.
When you are flush with cash like Microsoft or Samsung, you can push forward schedule. This is exactly how MS was able to shave off 6 months and launch Xbox 360 last November, because this machine would just be entering production to build up stock of May launch if MS followed normal schedule.

When you are cash poor like Sony, things get delayed.
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Basically Sony's 5th generation console is finished, it will be the battle of $199 machines, Xbox 360 Core Edition and Nintendo GameCube Turbo this November.

No detail on this Network 4th Generation Console from SCEI, like if it will receive clockspeed and memory capacity boost, etc.
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When you are cash poor like Sony, things get delayed.
This is critical to Sony's business. If they could find a way, they'd do it. Beg, borrow, steal the money. I don't buy it for a second. This delay is technological/manufacturable in origin.

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Wonder how the movie studios see this?
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One of Japan's leading newspapers, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun, is reporting in its Wednesday morning edition that the PlayStation 3 console has been delayed to November due to unresolved issues with the Blu-Ray technology.

According to the paper, the problem lies with the copy protection system used by Blu-Ray, details of which have not yet been finalised - which will now cause a delay of some six months to Sony's PS3 plans.

Sony has always maintained that the PS3 will launch in spring of this year, but most industry commentators and third-party publishers are currently anticipating US and Japanese launches late in 2006, followed by a European launch in early 2007.

If the Japanese launch doesn't occur until November, that could put any hope of a US launch in 2006 in jeopardy - which would give rival Microsoft a second Christmas on the market before the arrival of PS3 in the US as well as in Europe, as well as giving Nintendo a head-start with the Revolution console.

The newspaper report comes just hours before Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi is due to address a conference audience of media, analysts and third party publishers in Tokyo, where he is expected to announce details of the firm's plans for the next-generation PS3 system.

However, it's not clear whether Nihon Keizai Shimbun is reporting on leaked details from this conference, or whether the report is based on information from other sources. Speculation that technical problems with Blu-Ray could delay the roll-out of PS3 has been rife for well over a month, and has not been quelled by the announcement that Blu-Ray movie players will ship in North America in mid-May.

Sony's conference is planned for 3pm in Tokyo on Wednesday - around 6am GMT - and is also expected to feature a first look at some of the launch line-up for the console.

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One of Japan's leading newspapers, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun, is reporting in its Wednesday morning edition that the PlayStation 3 console has been delayed to November due to unresolved issues with the Blu-Ray technology.

According to the paper, the problem lies with the copy protection system used by Blu-Ray, details of which have not yet been finalised - which will now cause a delay of some six months to Sony's PS3 plans.

Sony has always maintained that the PS3 will launch in spring of this year, but most industry commentators and third-party publishers are currently anticipating US and Japanese launches late in 2006, followed by a European launch in early 2007.

If the Japanese launch doesn't occur until November, that could put any hope of a US launch in 2006 in jeopardy - which would give rival Microsoft a second Christmas on the market before the arrival of PS3 in the US as well as in Europe, as well as giving Nintendo a head-start with the Revolution console.

The newspaper report comes just hours before Sony Computer Entertainment boss Ken Kutaragi is due to address a conference audience of media, analysts and third party publishers in Tokyo, where he is expected to announce details of the firm's plans for the next-generation PS3 system.

However, it's not clear whether Nihon Keizai Shimbun is reporting on leaked details from this conference, or whether the report is based on information from other sources. Speculation that technical problems with Blu-Ray could delay the roll-out of PS3 has been rife for well over a month, and has not been quelled by the announcement that Blu-Ray movie players will ship in North America in mid-May.

Sony's conference is planned for 3pm in Tokyo on Wednesday - around 6am GMT - and is also expected to feature a first look at some of the launch line-up for the console.

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