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Grabbed this from the big thread. Props go to mikemorel:

Sony Enhances High Definition Experience With Introduction of First Blu-ray Disc Products
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LAS VEGAS, March 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Sony Electronics today debuted its
first Blu-ray Disc(TM) (BD) products in the U.S., along with details on
suggested pricing and availability for some of the new offerings.
These next generation devices include a home player, VAIO(R) desktop and
notebook computers, an aftermarket internal computer drive, and
recordable/rewritable media. All will offer the highest-definition experience
available from a five-inch optical disc.
"We're in a unique position to be unveiling a full line of HD products
that capitalize on Blu-ray Disc's technological advantages," said Hideki
"Dick" Komiyama, president and chief operating officer of Sony Electronics
Inc. "Blu-ray Disc will set the bar for the high-definition lifestyle that
consumers have been anticipating."
Headlining Sony's new product debuts are the BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc player
and the VAIO RC desktop computer. The player is targeted to ship in July for
about $1,000. The VAIO PC with Blu-ray Disc will be available for about
$2,300. Both the VAIO RC desktop and notebook with a Blu-ray Disc drive will
be available by early summer.
In April, Sony plans to begin shipping 25GB BD-R (write once) and BD-RE
(rewritable) discs for about $20 and $25 each, respectively. The 50GB BD-R
and BD-RE dual-layer discs will come in subsequent months for about $48 and
$60.

BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player

The BD player is designed to deliver 1920 x 1080p output, the highest HD
signal output currently available through an HDMI(TM) connection. The player
supports various high quality video codecs, including MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC and
VC1. Analog component output for 1080i has been included so people who own
HD-capable televisions without HDMI can enjoy the Blu-ray Disc experience.
The new BDP-S1 model is compatible with standard DVDs with the added
feature of 1080p upscaling through HDMI, which gives new life to existing DVD
libraries. Enhancing the BD entertainment experience further, BD-Java
interactivity has been incorporated, allowing for the design of advanced
interactive features.
The BDP-S1 player offers uncompressed multi-channel linear PCM digital
audio output via HDMI, delivering optimum surround sound to an HDMI- equipped
receiver. The player also has optical digital audio out and 5.1 channel
decoding capability for backward compatibility with existing receivers. In
addition, the unit has a separate audio circuit board, finely tuned audio
components, rigid beam chassis construction, drive brackets and off center
insulator feet.
This robust BD-ROM/R/RE player supports DVD playback from DVD/DVD+/-R
/ +/-RW encoded discs, as well as MP3 audio files and JPEG images stored on
DVD+/-R / +/-RW discs.

Capture, Edit and Burn HD with VAIO BD-Enabled PCs

The VAIO RC Series computers, Sony's first Blu-ray desktops, combine BD
recording technology with high-octane performance, allowing aspiring
moviemakers and videographers to capture and burn their high-definition
content.
Consumers can edit high-definition footage with a comprehensive suite of
software applications. They can then archive and share it on Sony
high-capacity BD-R and BD-RE Blu-ray Discs or down converted to standard
definition DVD+/-R / +/-RW dual layer discs, capitalizing on flexibility in
storage, playback and recording.
"These new VAIO PCs marry eye-catching aesthetics with powerful
cutting-edge technology," said Komiyama. "Our new Blu-ray enabled computers
will empower people to unleash their creativity and experience entertainment
in a whole new realm."
The VAIO RC Series will be shipped with a 25GB Blank BD-RE (rewritable)
blank disc.

Aftermarket Internal Blu-ray Disc Recordable/Rewritable Drive

The BWU-100A, an aftermarket internal Blu-ray Disc drive for computer use,
will support recording of 25GB and 50GB BD-R (write once) or BD-RE
(rewritable) discs at 2X max speed. They are capable of burning a full 25GB
disc in about 30 minutes. The drive will also support recording of standard
single layer 4.7GB DVD+/-R / +/-RW, Double/Dual Layer 8.5GB DVD+/-R, DVD-RAM
and CD-R/-RW media, making it a true all-in-one "tri-mode" recorder/reader.
The new drive can be installed in a standard half-height computer bay with
a parallel ATAPI (P-ATA) interface. Comprehensive authoring software will be
included for capturing, editing, and burning high-definition personal content
captured by an HDV format camcorder, keeping the video in native 1080i HD
format for playback on a Blu-ray Disc player. Video can also be
"down-converted" to standard-definition (SD) resolution for burning onto a DVD
disc.
The BD drive will be available this year with pricing to be announced
prior to product shipments.

AccuCORE Quality with Blu-ray Disc Media

Sony's AccuCORE(R) technology, which was integrated into recordable DVD
discs more than a year ago, has been re-engineered for Blu-ray Disc media to
deliver enhanced accuracy, compatibility and reliability.

The BD recordable and rewritable media offer:

* Scratch Guard - hard coating that resists scratches, dust and static;

* Archival Reliability - special material design that prevents data and
image corruption and deterioration to ensure quality playback;

* Stable Writing - a uniform and precise cover layer that reduces
fluctuation as the disc spins; and

* Temperature Durability - for the disc structure helps prevent warping
during severe changes in temperature and humidity.

Blu-ray Disc is an ideal format for recording and sharing personal content
captured by an HDV format camcorder. The original high definition content can
be recorded to BD-R or BD-RE discs and played by a compatible Blu-ray Disc
player connected to a TV, or a BD-equipped personal computer.

Sony Style Stores and SonyStyle.com go "Blu"

On the Sonystyle.com website, Sony Electronics is currently running a
pre-launch campaign designed to educate early adopters and enthusiasts about
Blu-ray Disc technology.
Throughout the summer months, all 32 Sony Style retail stores across the
country will go "Blu" -- Blu-ray, that is. With in-store product seminars by
trained Blu-ray experts and the opportunity to see BD high-definition content
on Sony's high-end HDTVs, the stores will be ideal venues for people to
experience the impact of Blu-ray Disc.
And because seeing is believing, the stores will prominently display
Blu-ray Disc banners, informational materials and even blue-tinted windows in
select locations to ensure that even the casual passers-by understand that
Blu-ray Disc is the next significant leap in digital entertainment.
Consumers can receive more information about Blu-ray Disc products,
technology and related events by signing up at http://www.sony.com/bd .
Additionally, pre-orders for the BDP-S1 player will be available through
Sonystyle.com and Sony Style retail stores, beginning on March 17. The player
will also be available for pre-order at the same time through authorized
internet dealers, which include: Bestbuy.com, Circuitcity.com, Sears.com,
Ultimateelectronics.com, Tweeter.com. Amazon.com, Crutchfield.com, Bjorns.com,
**************.com, Listenup.com, Vac2buy.com, JR.com, and
Electronicexpress.com.

Available Blu-ray Disc Movies

Sony Pictures' Home Entertainment division recently announced it will be
shipping eight movies on BD-Rom discs beginning on May 23 with an additional
eight titles being released in June, spanning from recent hits to classic
favorites. In total there will be close to 100 titles made available by all
of the Blu-ray Disc supporting studios by the end of the year.

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Good read! Thanks for the info! :)

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The SonyStyle page for the BD player has been updated!

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...b&Dept=tvvideo
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Yay! As I said in the main thread, this'll be my second player since I want one on launch and will get the Samsung. I really wanted the Sony first but "July" just ain't gonna cut it, especially since I have titles on order already for 5/23. And I nab a PS3 this year, woo, three BD decks in one year. It's like 1998 all over again.
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Yay! As I said in the main thread, this'll be my second player since I want one on launch and will get the Samsung. I really wanted the Sony first but "July" just ain't gonna cut it, especially since I have titles on order already for 5/23. And I nab a PS3 this year, woo, three BD decks in one year. It's like 1998 all over again.

I'm going to be interested to see an outright comparision between the Pioneer Elite player vs. this when the specs finalize and everything else. I want to see what makes the Elite several hundred dollars more expensive than this.

It would be nice if Sony gave this the ES treatment in terms of warranties and the like. They should.

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Not to pat myself on the back or anything, but here's this nugget from WAY back on Feb. 3 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7053878):

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If the BD folks are smart, they'll announce specific launch plans in the weeks right before HD DVD launches. That'll probably stop some people (myself included) from doing something stupid on March 28. If the BD people do that, it'll kill HD DVD's advantage before it's even out of the gate, especially if the launch plans are for sooner rather than later.
And JBlacklow's reply (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7054069):

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That would be hilarious. A PS3 announcement and/or Blu-Ray ads going on in the last half of March would be a killer strategy.
And my reply to him (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7054079):

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If there is no major announcement from BD prior to, say, St. Patrick's Day, it'll be hard to resist HD DVD on 3/28.
I guess I know which format I'm going with now! (Hey, at least HD DVD makes some nice long-sleeve t-shirts and pens!)
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heh heh. Yeah, the advantage to coming out second is again obvious. You get to watch the other party and plan to deflate them little by little. The thing that continues to get me - and mind you I do have the Toshiba on order and will follow through with it - is that I can and have ordered BD titles already but I still can't on the HD DVD side. I understand full well that the BD stuff can be pulled just as easily, but from an average consumer perspective, seeing things listed two months in advance is normal and "reassuring".
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Originally Posted by bferr1
Not to pat myself on the back or anything, but here's this nugget from WAY back on Feb. 3 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7053878):
And JBlacklow's reply (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7054069):
And my reply to him (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7054079):
I guess I know which format I'm going with now! (Hey, at least HD DVD makes some nice long-sleeve t-shirts and pens!)
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BLU-RAY it is! I will be purchasing the BDP-S1 player this summer to go with the 55 inch SXRD 1080P inputs. 1080P to 1080P baby! :)
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BLU-RAY it is! I will be purchasing the BDP-S1 player this summer to go with the 55 inch SXRD 1080P inputs. 1080P to 1080P baby! :)
Can I come over when you get that set up? :) :p

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So some of you needed a BD announcement to confirm the existence of the sony player and the actual format? Interesting.

I fail to see how this is a great strategy against the HD-DVD release in 2 weeks. Then again I do not orally service Sony or the actual BD format itself so my logical mind prolly doesn't fit in here. Announcing something that comes out months later before a competing product is actually released in 2 weeks is not an advanatge and to say it kills HD-DVDs early release advantage is asinine at best.

I think I stepped into the bizarro world in this thread...nah it is just the fanboy world.:rolleyes:

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[quote=Chris Beveridge]Yay! As I said in the main thread, this'll be my second player since I want one on launch and will get the Samsung. I really wanted the Sony first but "July" just ain't gonna cut it, especially since I have titles on order already for 5/23. And I nab a PS3 this year, woo, three BD decks in one year. It's like 1998 all over again.[/QUOTE

Same here, except I am also due for a new Dell pc with a Blu Ray drive by fall.
So its Samsung, then Sony but with one eye on the Pioneer Elite, then dump the Samsung at the Bay, and buy the Dell and PS3for my kid. :D

The PS3 assumes my kid will wait inside the store in line for 10 hours as I show up at 11.55p.m. with check book in hand ;)
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Yay! As I said in the main thread, this'll be my second player since I want one on launch and will get the Samsung. I really wanted the Sony first but "July" just ain't gonna cut it, especially since I have titles on order already for 5/23. And I nab a PS3 this year, woo, three BD decks in one year. It's like 1998 all over again.

Same here, except my buying spree will go something like this...Samsung then Sony, with a quick look at the Pioneer Elites final specs along the way, a quick trip to flea bay to dump the Samsung then an overdue Dell pc with Blu Ray drive in the fall along with my new Optoma h-81 1080p DLP PJ, then if my kid is willing to stand in line for 8-10 hours, I will show up at 11.55 p.m. with checkbook in hand to buy a PS3.

I think if we buy 3, we should get the forth one free...or something :D
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Saying this is some blu-ray advantage or that it kills hd-dvds earlier release advantage is one of the more amusing things I have ever read and it makes no logical sense but hey, if the fanboys want to keep thinking that then go right ahead.

AVS needs a combined hd-dvd/BD forum where fanboys of each side aren't allowed to post so people like me who do not have a preference of either format can go there and read stuff without people saying such silly things as some of the posts in this thread do.

No doubt if the roles were reversed with hd-dvd coming out later and toshiba making some announcement about something that is obvious 2 (I fail to see what is so special about this release as it is known aside form nwo you can pre order the player) weeks before the BD release NOBODY here would be saying it was a toshiba/hd-dvd advantage and that they just killed the earlier release of BD like some here are trying to say.

Why on earth can't people be unbiased or be biased but use some intelligence when expressing their bias. It can be done.

Anyway, good for Sony that they will have pre-orders going. No doubt that if I get a BD only player this year it'd probably be the Sony.

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Saying this is some blu-ray advantage or that it kills hd-dvds earlier release advantage is one of the more amusing things I have ever read and it makes no logical sense but hey, if the fanboys want to keep thinking that then go right ahead.
Truly amazing how you twisted "the advantage to coming out second is to see what the other guy does" into "killing HD DVD advantage".
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AVS needs a combined hd-dvd/BD forum where fanboys of each side aren't allowed to post so people like me who do not have a preference of either format can go there and read stuff without people saying such silly things as some of the posts in this thread do...Why on earth can't people be unbiased or be biased but use some intelligence when expressing their bias. It can be done.
Read Chris' other posts, then his incredibly popular website, and come back to us on this.

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Truly amazing how you twisted "the advantage to coming out second is to see what the other guy does" into "killing HD DVD advantage".
Read Chris' other posts, then his incredibly popular website, and come back to us on this.
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Saying this is some blu-ray advantage or that it kills hd-dvds earlier release advantage is one of the more amusing things I have ever read and it makes no logical sense but hey, if the fanboys want to keep thinking that then go right ahead.
Well, it has the history of Beta/VHS going for it... Beta was first to market, with VHS rolling out a year later...

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I just realize the title looked a little weird. Edited to make more sense.

ETA: Or maybe not. I humbly ask the mods, if it's no problem, that they might change it to Sony: BDP-S1 expected in July at tons of retailers, preorders start 3/17.

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I think I'll pass on the Samsung and get the Sony, July isn't too long of a wait, and I'll have the Toshiba HD-A1 to play around with until then(hopefully).
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According to Electronic Express, the Sony BD player WILL have Dobly Digital Plus, DTS-HD, Dolby TrueHD decoding capability. This obviously needs confirmation, but if this is true, July can't come quick enough! Oh, and they claim preordering starts April 1, not tomorrow. I guess we can verify that easily enough.

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- BD-Java interactive capability
- Blu-ray Disc/DVD playback
- Video Codec Format: MEPG2/MEG4-AVC/VC-1
- Drive Bracket for stability of drive system
- Individual Speaker setting
- Off Center Insulator Feet
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- HDMI Output x 1
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- Optical Output x 1
- Composite Output x 1
- Optical Output x 1
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SonyStyle now taking preorders on the BDP-S1, and it is expected to ship on or before August 15, 2006.

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/+INT..._bluraydiscsub
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Here are some minor details on the BDP-S1 in the big thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7324762

I'm surprised about the no online connectivity decision, especially since they have said this is their sole Blu-ray home play this year.

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Does this unit actually decode the new audio codecs, or just the embedded legacy streams contained within?

I ask because of the wording on the specs, and the fact that Sony execs seemed to sidestep discussing advanced audio codecs with CED in today's issue, sticking to the "we output 7.1 LPCM over HDMI" message, again noting they planned to release some discs authored with LPCM.

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Thus anyone know if the Sony will output EITHER 1080P or 1080i over the HDMI or is it only 1080P (which would make no sense to me as they don't even have an SXRD out yet that will accept 1080P)? I checked sonystyle but details are sketchy there and did not provide the info I seek... Thanks, Gerry
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Thus anyone know if the Sony will output EITHER 1080P or 1080i over the HDMI or is it only 1080P (which would make no sense to me as they don't even have an SXRD out yet that will accept 1080P)? I checked sonystyle but details are sketchy there and did not provide the info I seek... Thanks, Gerry
All the HD and BR players will allow 1080i and 720p output over HDMI (there are a lot of non-1080p sets out there).
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All the HD and BR players will allow 1080i and 720p output over HDMI (there are a lot of non-1080p sets out there).
Billp, thanks for the response. It made sense to me but today one never knows what the heck companies are going to do ;) .

Along another line, I read a thread were someone went and saw a side by side demo of HD format (don't remember if it was BD or HDdvd) along side of 1080i upscale from a DVD player and said the difference wasn't as great as he thought it would be. One would have to wonder if $1000 and limited movies is worth the upgrade for awhile. Myself, I would want to see one in action on a similar set to what I have (SXRD 60") before jumping in the pool :D . Gerry
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