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post #181 of 200 Old 08-30-2006, 01:03 PM
 
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"Whatever changes are made to the hardware however, we are told that Sony will not be able to meet its initial target of 1080p Full HD that it had originally set and will instead deliver 720p and will upscale it or allow the new TVs to do so. This, apparently, will save CPU cycles and will save gamers from the dreaded loss of frame rate."
http://megagames.com/news/html/cons...srevealed.shtml
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If the players cannot play BD50 discs, then they will not put content on BD50 discs. They cannot and still not have the media attacking. PERIOD

They would be better off just sticking with BD25 and then come out in a couple of years with BD50 players and media and just call them "Profile3" players.

Of course then they will be faced with virtually all studios going neutral (except Sony studios) and limiting BD's chances of strangling the content to win.

Alas, if only Samsung had delayed like the rest of them did, then they could just have the launch later with a lot less bad PR going into the Christmas season.

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Fettasctic:

That link didn't work, but I found it here:

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/c...revealed.shtml

The problem is that article is from 2/14/06. I do not remember hearing anything about this but is that 5th paragraph still relevant? If it is true then that would further hurt any chance of the PS3 being used as a BD movie player.

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this turning out be one of worst launches ever no joke. how the hell are they going to make 2 million ps3 is my problem I was going to get one but screw this.

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According to google news for keywords on bluray, theres atleast two other news sites that have articles now that point to the Bill Hunt article.

Samsung Blu-ray player rumoured to not play 50GB discs

Two layer Blu-ray titles an issue for hardware manufacturers?
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Bill Hunt today:

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We should also mention that Sony is reporting to us (in light of our post from last Friday) that the issues with regard to hardware compatibility with the new 50 GB BD-ROM discs has been (or is being) resolved as well. So good news for you Blu-ray fans out there. We're going to be visiting Sony in the near future to learn more on this, so stay tuned for that.
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents
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Big difference between "has been" and "is being" resolved. Like I said, they have to make it work, especially on the PS3.
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ok, so there is/was a problem and it is/was being fixed.
But what I get most out of that article is the studios are listening!
Hopefully, this means more releases. :)
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I don't think j6p has any clue what BD50 is. Is there even a way to determine if a disc is BD25 or BD50?

Yep if it is available it is a BD25. If it isn't then it is a BD50 :)
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Since Bill Hunts' posts more or less started this entire discussion, based on what he had learned from Blu-Ray insiders, I think we can trust his update today.
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Since Bill Hunts' posts more or less started this entire discussion, based on what he had learned from Blu-Ray insiders, I think we can trust his update today.

I think we can as well, but I wish he had been more clear (or Sony more clear to him) about whether the problem is actually fixed, or they are just working on it and expect it will be fixed.
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The answer is still ambiguous. If it is fixed they wouldn't say "is being"
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It's not fixed yet. Even if it were fixed, they probably wouldn't say it until they actually got some media out there to prove it.

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Big difference between "has been" and "is being" resolved. Like I said, they have to make it work, especially on the PS3.
I read that as "has been" as far as the unreleased players, "is being" as far as the Samsung. At least I hope that's what he means.
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The last sentence is what caught my eye. We're going to be visiting Sony in the near future to learn more on this, so stay tuned for that. Do you think they are prepared to demonstrate a working BD50 to Bill Hunt?
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there are several ways to 'resolve' the issue- one of them being to not produce any DL discs anytime soon.

And if they pushed back the production of DL discs indefinitely- none of the exclusive studios would bolt. Its not about capacity, it's about copy protection. So unless Bds draconian levels of copy protection are tied in with a dual layer, most of these studios would probably breathe a sigh of relief at thought of not having to spend all that extra money producing material to fill up another layer.

so what if the competing format has oodles of extras and interactivity without breaking a sweat- that format is just a blip and will be buried by all the PS3s in the market.

problem? what problem?




I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how they know these DL discs are actually fully functional if no drive yet can play them.
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So unless Bds draconian levels of copy protection....
If BD's level of copy protection is "draconian", what adjective do you use to describe AACS?
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why doesn't sony just throw in the towel and give up, infact they should just stop all BD production and jump on the HD-dvd bandwagon. They should just replace ps3's bd drive with Hd-dvd one and call it quits. Sony should realize that BD was a major mistake on their part.
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come to think of it .. Bill might be intentionally fed with misleading information to play down the expectation of BD before they "surprise" us the consumers nearing Christmas .. :p
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If BD's level of copy protection is "draconian", what adjective do you use to describe AACS?
Slightly less draconian :) Both BluRay and HD DVD use AACS - BluRay just has a few other mechanisms as well.
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