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post #181 of 188 Old 10-29-2006, 03:47 PM
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My understanding is that the Sony player is made for them by Pioneer and should be very similar without the Media Gallery feature and other options specific to the Pioneer.

Also, the HD-DVD forum is meeting on November 1 to determine the best way to handle 1080p24 output. This meeting will effect the HD-XA2 which is currently scheduled for January of 2007. Currently the HD-XA2 is not listed as supporting 24p output, but that may indeed change prior to release.
I hope that they do get the HD-XA2 to do 1080p/24 natively, not because I'm gonna buy it but so that you, Peter, with your sweet theater can show off HD DVD in all its glory and create converts. Plus it will help counteract the "1080p" BD marketing confusion that we saw earlier with the Sammy. That was shameful.

If The HD-XA2 can't do it natively, then any BD marketing will be justified (if they note that its natively displayed 1080p, not just 1080p blanket statement).

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For me, the A2 will do fine, as I need to output 1080p24sf. I am expecting to get the Lumagen Radiance when it is available, as it will take the 1080i60 and output 1080p24sf. I am also looking at the Crystalio II, which might be able to do it with a FW update prior to then.

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The material on the disc is 1080P/24, not 1080/48sF. It is NOT the 1080 segment frames 24 that the Lumagen can output, nor is it the 1080p24sf that the Qualia takes. It says it right on the dealer notice in the demo box. The new Sony XCam digital HD 1080P cam does shoot at 1080P/24, and not 1080P/48 segment frames. NO studios have announced any discs coming out in this format, and since they do 1080P/60, I would guess that ultimately it will stay that way unfortunately.

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Yes, but the Lumagen can take in 1080p60, 1080i60, and 1080p24 and properly output 1080p24sf. This is perfect. Much better than the Qualia upgrade which is only 1080p60 and only on the DVI port.

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I guess we will have to disagree on this point... MPEG 2 is quite a bit more efficient than uncompress video...... Uncompressed video from a D5 is 1.5gbps, when compressed to MPEG2 with great quality is around 18 to 30mbps... That is quite good.. Not as good as VC1, but not that far away....

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Peter:

Lumagen does not take 1080/24sF nor 24P yet, and Patrick hasn't even started yet since he doesn't have a device to try it with. The new Lumagen will be able to if that's what you are referring to, but even Lumagen is still going to tell you to get your 004 upgraded to take 1080P/60 so you are not outputting 24sF for non-film sources.

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This is the most laughable post I've ever read here at AVS. "MPEG2 is more efficient than uncompressed video"? No $#!+ !!!!!
More class from the HD-DVD fans. Can we get some mods to clean up these forums so that industry guests are treated with a little more respect. This place is really embarrassing.
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As someone said lets end this.
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