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SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS BREAKS NEW GROUND IN BLU-RAY TECHNOLOGY
LAS VEGAS - January 8, 2007 - Samsung Electronics, a market leader in consumer electronics, today unveiled its second-generation Blu-ray DiscTM player for the home entertainment industry. Samsung expects that the BD-P1200 player will help the company stay a step ahead of the cutting-edge optical media industry, after introducing the first Blu-ray DiscTM (BD) player (model: BD-P1000) to the U.S. market in June 2006.

With the launch of the BD-P1000 Blu-ray Disc player, Samsung was first to offer full high-definition 1080p DVD resolution and clarity to consumers. Now, the next-generation BD-P1200 player will enhance consumers' experiences so that they can enjoy the best video and audio quality available in an HD disc player.

One of the BD-P1200 player's key new features is its Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) processor, which is a powerful unit similar to those used by Hollywood production studios. With its HQV processor, the BD-P1200 player offers true 1080i to 1080p HD de-interlacing, so it can deliver the best HD images possible even from DVD formats. The player's HDMI version 1.3 connection helps boost the sound quality (via 7.1-channel Dolby Digital Plus) and deep color. This HDMI connection also offers Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) technology, which enables a single remote control unit to operate the BD player, TV and other A/V products from Samsung. With the BD-P1200 model's HDMI connections, consumers will get superior audio/video quality, with incredible ease and convenience of use.

Samsung and some of the world's other leading electronics makers have teamed up to develop Blu-ray technology as the next-generation format for multimedia entertainment. Blu-ray discs can store five-to ten-times more data than a conventional DVD, so the viewer can watch their favorite movies and TV shows in high definition, instead of the standard definition of existing DVD formats.

Samsung has advanced Blu-ray technology through its in-house manufacturing of such core components as the player's laser pickup, deck, and chipsets. Samsung already offers a Blu-ray recorder that features the company's proprietary dual-lens pickup (one pickup with two lenses that allows backward capability, to play standard DVDs and CDs in addition to Blu-ray discs).

Coming to a Home Near You: Next-Generation BD-P1200 Disc Player
Samsung brings consumers a complete home entertainment experience with the new BD-P1200.. The unit will play multimedia content in a variety of different formats including 720p, 1080i and 1080p resolutions. In addition, the BD-P1200 model supports the 192KHz LPCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, MPEG 2, DTS and MP3 formats for complete versatility in entertainment. The Easy Top Menu' allows consumers to change the font and color of subtitles and menu titles according to their tastes, as well as the background color and menu graphics. The BD-P1200 model also has backward compatibility, making it simple to manage and play consumers' media collections.

DVD vs. Blu-ray
DVD Player BD Player
Disc capacity Single-layer: 4.7GB
Dual-layer: 8.5GB Single-layer: 25GB
Dual-layer: 50GB
Compression MPEG 2 MPEG 2/VC-1/H.264
Data transfer rate Up to 10.08 Mbps Up to 50 Mbps
Recording time SD: up to 2 hr. (4.7GB) HD: up to 2 hr. (25GB)
Max. resolution SD (720 x 480) HD (1,920 x 1080)
Output 480p, 480i 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

BD-P1200, Blu-ray Disc Player
Today's high-definition televisions (HDTV) are capable of displaying a far greater amount of movie realism than a standard DVD can deliver. That's why Blu-ray Disc (BD) technology was developed. Consumers will marvel at the clarity and full-color spectrum of every scene, while multi-channel sound puts users in the center of the action. The Samsung Blu-ray player gives viewers full 1080p native output and up-conversion for their current collection of DVDs to near-HD quality. This player also offers backwards compatibility to current CD playback, so consumers can prepare to take the next step in DVD technology with Samsung.




HDMI Output
HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) transfers high-definition (720p/1080i/1080p) video and audio from your DVD or BD to your TV, home theater, or other digital AV components. Simply connect your Blu-ray player to your home theater system with a single HDMI cable.

Samsung at ICES 2007
To see Samsung Electronics' complete ICES 2007 product lineup, please visit the company's booth (#11033) located in the Central Hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center. For more information on specific products, please visit Samsung Electronics' ICES press site at www.samsung.com/icespress.

About Samsung Electronics
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. is a global leader in semiconductor, telecommunication, digital media and digital convergence technologies with 2005 parent company sales of US$56.7 billion and net income of US$7.5 billion. Employing approximately 128,000 people in over 90 offices in 51 countries, the company consists of five main business units: Digital Appliance Business, Digital Media Business, LCD Business, Semiconductor Business and Telecommunication Network Business. Recognized as one of the fastest growing global brands, Samsung Electronics is a leading producer of digital TVs, memory chips, mobile phones, and TFT-LCDs. For more information, please visit www.samsung.com

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Haven't they learned yet that 1080i to 1080p deinterlacing is *NOT* the way to go to get 1080p output?
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Will they be kind enough to include an ethernet port with the slightest hope of BD-Live compatiability?
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No DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD support???
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No MSRP of $499? No 1080p/24 support? At least its HDMI 1.3, which is more than what the just-announced Toshiba HD-A20 offers for $599.
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Nice, the first Blu-ray player with video processing from Silicon Image (ReonVX).

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In addition, the BD-P1200 model supports the 192KHz LPCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, MPEG 2, DTS and MP3 formats for complete versatility in entertainment.

Where is the DTS-HD MA and TrueHD support? No DTS-HD MA and TrueHD = no sale.
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Ummm, price?

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Where's the $500 Samsung people are talking about...at $799 this player will sit on BB CC shelves like the first gen Samsungs.

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Hi res pics cans be found at Samsung's web site.

http://www.samsung.com/common/micros...2007_ce11.html
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If they can get close to the alleged upscaling performance of the A1 then that'll will be a big boost. Support for lossless codecs would be huge too
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Two pics have BD-P1100 on them
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Nice looking player...but still too pricey!

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The list price may be $799. The street price (or ebay price) should be something less.

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Will they be kind enough to include an ethernet port with the slightest hope of BD-Live compatiability?


Per the slides and press conference, it will have an ethernet port and should be compatible with 802.11n to connect to the new Samsung wireless plasma.

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Here's a crappy photo I took of the new Samsung player at CES during setup.
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I love HD...and I hated that Anti-Consumer format war.

Now that we can move on... Blu-ray > Digital Downloads!
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Thanks!
It looks like the logos are changed!
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Haven't they learned yet that 1080i to 1080p deinterlacing is *NOT* the way to go to get 1080p output?

The press release says "..full 1080p native output and up-conversion for their current collection of DVDs to near-HD quality." I would assume they mean 1080p source BD discs are directly output without interlacing and then de-interlacing to restore 1080p (I believe that is what they mean by the use of term 'native').

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I feel like changing that LED on the bottom to red... more like the Knight Industries Two Thousand look.:P
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WRT DDTrueHD and DTSHDMA, I have a feeling that what we will see the industry standardize on is that entry-level machines have HDMI 1.3 (passing the encoded byte stream) but will not have on-board decoding or analog outs. This passes the responsibility along to your receiver, and saves money on an entry-level unit.

I think it is very important that this machine has HDMI 1.3 and am glad to see it at this price point.
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Is it safe to speculate that the BD-P1000 may be discontinued once this new model hits the market?
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Am I to assume that this player's upconversion of std DVDs will be good to very good given its HQV processor? How would it compare to say, the Toshiba AX2 or the Denon players with Reon processing?

I understand its all speculative at this point but I'd like to hear your opinions.
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Am I to assume that this player's upconversion of std DVDs will be good to very good given its HQV processor? How would it compare to say, the Toshiba AX2 or the Denon players with Reon processing?

That's a distinct possibility, but it will depend on how well Samsung implements the HQV in their design. You can't just pop a HQV processor in the box and expect great results. There is plenty of hardware and software design required to achieve maximum performance with these chips.
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Is it safe to speculate that the BD-P1000 may be discontinued once this new model hits the market?

It is a virtual certainty. That player has taken a beating in the media, and the new unit seems be better in every quantifiable way.

I love HD...and I hated that Anti-Consumer format war.

Now that we can move on... Blu-ray > Digital Downloads!
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Interesting... I thought it would be higher.
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A very nice looking player for sure.
Can't wait for the tests to start coming in.

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Where's the $500 Samsung people are talking about...at $799 this player will sit on BB CC shelves like the first gen Samsungs.


One could ask where the 300 dollar HD DVD players are? This cuts both ways.

I think reducing the price DIFFERENCE between dedicated players for BD and HD DVD to 300 dollars is a step in the right direction. Especially if the video conversion is anywhere close to the $1k XA2.

Meanwhile, there's always the PS3 to fill the $500 market.
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Great. Some say it may get down to $500 soon...

Blu-ray is the way!
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It's $799 list, street price will be sub-$600
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