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post #151 of 162 Old 06-18-2008, 06:54 PM
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I thought it may make sense to revive this thread since there is so much conversation lately in the "One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread" about the noise level in the "new" 80G PS3 released on 6/12/08.

I have not opened my 80G MG4 bundle yet and am interested in hearing more comments about the noise levels people are experiencing.

Has it been determined if the noise issue is case by case or inherent to all the 80G models (including "new")?

I'll have to go check out the "One and Only" thread but the 80 gig PS3s previously used a 90nm CELL while the new 80 gig PS3 would be using the 65nm CELL so noise levels would be comparable to the 40 gig PS3 than the old 80 gig version.
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I thought it may make sense to revive this thread since there is so much conversation lately in the "One-and-Only PS3 as Blu-Ray Player Thread" about the noise level in the "new" 80G PS3 released on 6/12/08.

I have not opened my 80G MG4 bundle yet and am interested in hearing more comments about the noise levels people are experiencing.

Has it been determined if the noise issue is case by case or inherent to all the 80G models (including "new")?

My "new" 6/12/08 80GB was made in China April 2008. From what others have said, it's the same 90nm chip. The manual and Sony webpage say its power consumption is 380W, and the 40GB is 280W.
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My "new" 6/12/08 80GB was made in China April 2008. From what others have said, it's the same 90nm chip. The manual and Sony webpage say its power consumption is 380W, and the 40GB is 280W.

It is possible the new 80GB models use the 90nm CELL but I find it much more likely Sony just forgot to update the specs for the "new" 80GB. They have been manufacturing the 65nm CELL for a very long time.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...ead.id=2960207
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It looks like the 80GB still use the 90nm chip:

http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html
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It looks like the 80GB still use the 90nm chip:

http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html

It may but that web page only shows one US version of the 880GB PS3 which started production last year and we already knew.

Until I hear Sony themselves say which processor is used I will assume it is the 65nm because that is what makes the most sense to me. Pulled the following information from the net ...

Here are the unbiased facts:

1) The MGS4 80gb has the same casing as the old 80gb sku, with the same vents and all.

2) The owners manual indicates the same power consumption as the old 20/60/80gb skus.

3) The MGS4 80gb sku underwent enough changes to hardware that Sony was required to file with the FCC

4) We have seen a power test indicating the new 80gb consumes less power than the 20gb sku.
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It really doesn't matter what's inside the plastic. The bottom line is that the "new" 80GB PS3 throws off *A LOT* more heat during Blu-Ray playback than the current 40GB PS3. This is easily measured.

So regardless of what chips are in there, the 80GB unit is much more likely to have to crank up the fan.

Now the most rational explanation for this observable fact is that the "new" 80GB unit continues to use the older, hotter-running processor chips. But, again, it really doesn't matter. It's a space heater, and that fan is much more likely to gear up and get noisy.
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MUCHO, you can believe whatever you want (no offense), but this past week I had both the 80 gig MGS4 PS3 and the 40 gig PS3 in my home, and watched blu ray movies on both of them, and the 80 gig runs incredibly hotter and is much louder than the 40. I could hear it over the movie. In fact I decided not to keep it for that reason. I will wait until they get their act together and can put out a SKU that has all the features I need.

-silent when watching movies & runs cool
-backwards compatibility with PS2
-80 gig minimum
-preferably they update the hardware to allow bitstreaming
-available for >399 (such as with the recent walmart deal)

Until then, I wait.
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MUCHO, you can believe whatever you want (no offense), but this past week I had both the 80 gig MGS4 PS3 and the 40 gig PS3 in my home, and watched blu ray movies on both of them, and the 80 gig runs incredibly hotter and is much louder than the 40. I could hear it over the movie. In fact I decided not to keep it for that reason. I will wait until they get their act together and can put out a SKU that has all the features I need.

-silent when watching movies & runs cool
-backwards compatibility with PS2
-80 gig minimum
-preferably they update the hardware to allow bitstreaming
-available for >399 (such as with the recent walmart deal)

Until then, I wait.

Why would I take offense? I could very easily be wrong in my opinion. If I'm wrong - I'm wrong!

And it would appear I AM!

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I have both the 40gb version (very quite) and a new MGS4 80gb bundle. I measured power with the disk ejected for both of them running Folding.

Results:
Ver build Current Watts
40gb 10/07 1.33A 158W
80gb 04/08 1.64A 200W

So the 80gb version is drawing ~40W more doing the same work. Note that my 80gb PS3 is also silent. But if it draws more watts that means more heat and if you put it into a non-open space the fans will run more.

Also note that the 80GB version has more vent on the right side of the case. Probably added so that when it is standing vertical it can dissipate the extra heat generated. When the 80gb version is vertical it generates heat off the top. When the 40gb version is vertical the top is a air intake so it is cool.

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BTW easy way to figure out its a 90nm ps3 is that there is a vent on the right side that shoots out hot air which the 40gb doesn't have.
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What is the model number for the "new" 80GB PS3?

Model numbers look like CECHx__, where x is the model designation. The "old" 80GB model was CECHE___. If the "new" 80GB has a new model number, than there are most likely significant internal changes. If it has the same model number, it is most likely the same as the "old" 80GB model and uses the 90nm Cell.
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What is the model number for the "new" 80GB PS3?

Model numbers look like CECHx__, where x is the model designation. The "old" 80GB model was CECHE___. If the "new" 80GB has a new model number, than there are most likely significant internal changes. If it has the same model number, it is most likely the same as the "old" 80GB model and uses the 90nm Cell.

From the manuals/support page: 80GB (model CECHE01MG-2.10) (w/ DUALSHOCK®3 wireless controller) – PDF

The above is what my April 2008 80GB MGS4 PS3 is, and I recall looking on the bottom for the build date (made in China) and seeing CECHE01.
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