Originally Posted by Petrey
So, wouldn’t the DVD-2500BTCI Blu-Ray transport connected to the AVR-5308CI produce the exact same video and audio result as the DVD-3800BDCI Blu-Ray player connected to the same AVR-5308CI?
If so, then I presume if you are going to be a AVR-5308CI owner and are trying to choose between the DVD-2500BTCI Blu-Ray transport or DVD-3800BDCI Blu-Ray player there would be no point in purchasing the DVD-3800BDCI Blu-Ray player because it wouldn’t produce any different result for you than the DVD-2500BTCI Blu-Ray transport.
I personally think that depends on one thing. IF the 2500 decodes DD+,TrueHD and DTS-HD to PCM, then there would be no difference if HDMI is your connection of choice. However, if the player front panel picture is accurate, it seems the only way to get the new audio codecs is to bitstream them to an HDMI 1.3 receiver with decoding support.
That's fine as long as you can live with one thing... no profile 1.1 extras working, as none of those will get any sound. For 1.1 extras such as PiP to work as intended, decoding and mixing must be done in player. The only way the 2500 can decode on board is if it uses bog std. DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1, or the disc has a lossless PCM track. So, if you want working PiP etc with full quality audio, on the face of it, the 2500 can only deliver that with PCM discs. Anything else will result in a large drop in quality.
The 3800 will be able to do all 1.1 extras and deliver full quality audio as either PCM over HDMI or over analogue outs.
BOTH players will suffer glitches if you bitstream HD audio. In both cases to 'seamlessly' switch to PiP and get audio will need you to switch to in-player decoding to get it to work. At best, even if the remote has a simple toggle button, you're going to get a brief audio drop out. At worst you're going to have to stop the movie, fiddle with player settings and then restart which as we all know doesn't work for BD-J (hence all 1.1 features) discs. Somewhere between those two extremes I suspect lie things such as video freezes, synch drift etc.
Of course if the 2500 can decode DD+,TrueHD and DTS-HD to PCM internally, then to use profile 1.1 features you don't need a 1.3 HDMI amp anyway as the output of choice remains PCM from the player.