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If you stick with this story, then you are saying that DTS (non HR or MA) is better than PCM and DolbyTrueHD (assuming you've heard those two formats). Correct?

BTW, you're falling deeper and deeper into that hole you're digging for yourself.

But it "is" MA...didn't you read the DTS website?...You should, you might learn something...
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Thanks 7point - I was just being simplistic in the quick explanation. Main pointer was that the old DTS HR stuff was renamed DTS HD HR and that it is different to the DTS HD MA.

I am dying to get some receivers with the DTS HD HR/MA decoders, tho. I've seen a couople discs I want to audition.
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Thanks 7point - I was just being simplistic in the quick explanation. Main pointer was that the old DTS HR stuff was renamed DTS HD HR and that it is different to the DTS HD MA.

I am dying to get some receivers with the DTS HD HR/MA decoders, tho. I've seen a couople discs I want to audition.


RDJAM - what i was also clarifying was that the HR was not renamed. its actually very different from the dts 96/24 and ES - in that it goes up to 6 MBps compared to the 1.5 mbps and also up to 7.1.

btw - 6 Mbps is more than enough to reach lossless-"ness" on your typical 48k film - that's not too shabby.
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If you would bother to read this whole thread, you would have seen that I am calling them tomorrow to find out the truth. So I am taken the time to find out the truth...BUB!

Actually, Bubba, I read the entire thread; I just forgot you mentioning that. Sorry 'bout that, and good for you.

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And I have not completely invalidated what I am hearing, because it is better than any other audio format that I have heard up to date...

DTS 1.5mbps core better than any other audio format you've heard? Oh well.

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You stated on 8/4:
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Ok...that sounds fair. When I see the site changed, then I will believe them. Because I called them Wed and he said that the site was correct.

Thought you called them (DTS) already?


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If you would bother to read this whole thread, you would have seen that I am calling them tomorrow to find out the truth. So I am taken the time to find out the truth...BUB!

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btw - 6 Mbps is more than enough to reach lossless-"ness" on your typical 48k film - that's not too shabby.

Agreed!
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But it "is" MA...didn't you read the DTS website?...You should, you might learn something...

What is "MA"?

Please tell us about your discussion with DTS today. We're waiting.
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What is "MA"?

Please tell us about your discussion with DTS today. We're waiting.

Well, I had an interesting 1 hour long talk with a man who claims he is an engineer... Anyways, I pretty much wasted my hour cause this person didn't seem to have a clue what he was talking about!... We ended up the discussion with him telling me that I could be "somehow" getting MA, but he doubts it!...Said I was probably getting 754 which would be undecernable from lossless MA!...I give up!...I don't care anymore what I'm getting...I LIKE IT!...

BTW, this was my second call to DTS.
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You stated on 8/4:Thought you called them (DTS) already?


Then on 8/5 you stated:

I did call on Wed and was told the site was right. Again today I was told the same thing at first but I added more information and wound up talking a really long time, but not to much avail...I still don't know for sure what I am receiving... See my other post above...
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DUDE, get over it...they're wrong..now go enjoy your equipment .
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I cannot believe this discussion has gone on for as long as it has trying to convince these simple people that it is just not possible to get MA at this point, nor can you get HR from MA. Know when to admit you are wrong, you'll look like less of a fool.

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So much discussion on this thread for no good reason. The DTS web page starts out with the statement:
"You can enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio if you have a new Blu-ray Disc or HD-DVD player with a DTS-HD Audio decoder built into the player. The audio will be decoded inside the player and passed to the receiver in two different ways."

The above statement includes the condition "IF you have a new...." Perhaps this could have been made more clear if DTS would have said "....if, and only if, you have a new Blu-ray Disc or HD-DVD player with the corresponding type of DTS-HD Audio decoder built into the player" This condition in the DTS statement is not met for any of the current generation of players as far at DTS-HD-MA is concerned. However, certain new players announced for this fall will support the internal decoding of DTS-HD-MA and for these players the DTS statement could apply.

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So much discussion on this thread for no good reason.

I couldn't agree more. I gave up on this thread days ago.

The fact is you cannot decode DTS-HD-MA with a DTS-HD decoder.
I tried to get the moderators to shut this thread down but they refused to. I was hoping it would eventually disappear off the front page thread list but the OP keeps bumping it.

This thread has so much misinformation it should be deleted forever. This thread only continues to confuse those who may be trying to understand the harsh reality behind the DTS-HD-MA codec.

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I ve just read this thread and must say I agree with Wirelessguru => CLOSE THIS TOPIC FOREVER!!!!!

You guys need to give yourselfves a break and WAIT till the new Denon will be released !
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According to the DTS website you can enjoy Master Audio now...As long as the player and receiver have 1.1 or 1.2 HDMI and a DTS-HD decoder.

http://www.dts.com/dts-hd/dtshd-mas...ng-receiver.php
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According to the DTS website you can enjoy Master Audio now...As long as the player and receiver have 1.1 or 1.2 HDMI and a DTS-HD decoder.

YOU CAN NOT. STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD AND POSTING MISINFORMATION!

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YOU CAN NOT. STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD AND POSTING MISINFORMATION!

I think you should call DTS and tell them...I called and they said this info is correct...
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This is funny...I suggested on page 6 that this thread be closed. Anyone with common sense could see where it was going. But NOOOO let's keep on discussing it.

Sorry guys, I had to..
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Moderator:

PLEASE shut this down.
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Moderator:

PLEASE shut this down.

And please shut down TheHDMan. He's obviously not interested in intelligent contributions, but instead desires to disrupt and confuse those who are trying to learn.
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I think you should call DTS and tell them...I called and they said this info is correct...

This ain't the way to make friends around here...you're gonna end up on alot of Ignore Lists.


NOW, FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HT HOLY....PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.

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+1 to ban theHDman
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Another vote to close the thread. Useless.

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And please shut down TheHDMan. He's obviously not interested in intelligent contributions, but instead desires to disrupt and confuse those who are trying to learn.

I'm simply trying to enlighten you to the truth about DTS. I'm sure they know what they are talking about...For Heavens sake they "created" the MA format... ...Read it again, and maybe it will sink in... We have 2 choices...Believe you, or the folks that created the format...I choose DTS...

http://www.dts.com/dts-hd/dtshd-mas...ng-receiver.php
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Ok this has gone on long enough,
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