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post #1 of 66 Old 09-05-2007, 04:20 PM - Thread Starter
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CNET Link: http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-977...tfd.blogs.item

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BDP-S500 and BDP-S2000ES key features:

1080p at 24 frames per second output
Onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus
Bitstream output, which should enable decoding of DTS-HD Master Audio with a compatible receiver
HDMI 1.3 port
Support for AVCHD discs encoded with x.v.Color

BDP-S500 ($700)
BDP-S2000ES ($1,300)
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Wow, Sony still doesn't get it. Blu-Ray standalones are TOO DAMNED EXPENSIVE. If these were at least Profile 1.1 I would give them props, but they aren't.

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I agree. I would think about one but instead I think my next Blu ray unit will be the Denon 3800... It can also take over and play my SD DVDs nicely...

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Seems like my dream for a "ES" Blu-ray player (which i made a thread for few days ago) has come true.
Does it support SACD? if it does, this is the perfect machine for me!

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No mention of SACD playback (yet).
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seems like no SACD support!
for 1300, come on sony! Give us the ultimate machine for ultimate high def video and High res. Audio!

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Any word if they are at least UPGRADABLE to 1.1?

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I personally think Samsung's BD-P2400 is a better deal than Sony's BDP-S500 player.
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Any word if they are at least UPGRADABLE to 1.1?

It has already been posted by paidgeek that the BDP-S500 will be BD-Video 1.0 only but there isn't any word yet on what player profile the BDP-S2000ES might be.
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According to CNET, the ES player is just like the BDP-S500 player just better build quality.
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Hey, they are appealing to the high end....

Toshiba is appealling to the low end.

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Hey, they are appealing to the high end....

Sony High-end?
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I personally think Samsung's BD-P2400 is a better deal than Sony's BDP-S500 player.

looks like the Sammy will be delayed. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=903433

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Hey, they are appealing to the high end....

Toshiba is appealling to the low end.

Which has the MOST buyers.

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BDP-S2000ES

BDP-S500


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SONY BOLSTERS BLU-RAY DISC PLAYER LINE WITH TWO NEW MODELS

Adding ES and Step-up Models with Advanced Audio Codec Support


DENVER, Sept. 5, 2007 (Booth #600) – Sony introduced two additional Blu-ray Disc™ (BD) players today offering a full range of features.

Optimized for the home theater enthusiast and designed with input from dealers and consumers in mind, the new BDP-S2000ES model is the first Blu-ray Disc player in Sony’s “Elevated Standard” (ES) line. This model, as well as the new BDP-S500, which complements Sony’s current BDP-S300 BD player, features full high-definition 1080/60p and 24p True Cinema output. They support 7.1 channel linear PCM and Dolby® TrueHD, Dolby® Digital Plus, as well as dts-HD™ High Resolution Audio bitstream output via HDMI™ (ver1.3).

“Consumer support of Sony’s Blu-ray Disc products has been outstanding and the new models are targeted to satisfy the demand of those who crave an even greater level of entertainment and performance,” said Chris Fawcett, vice president of marketing for Sony Electronics’ Home Product Division. “From the enthusiast level of our ES line down to the entry-level models, our commitment to the finest quality video and sound delivered by the BD format has never been stronger.”

The BDP-S2000ES model features dual shield construction, which prevents dust from collecting on the BD drive, and a rigid drive bracket to minimize vibration. The player also sports a rigid beam chassis that reduces internal vibration, improving playback.

Similar to other Sony ES products, the unit’s aluminum insulator feet help isolate the player from external vibrations, while separate audio and video boards deliver better sound and picture quality. The unit also includes the IR-in feature for custom installation market.

The BDP-S2000ES and BDP-S500 units both offer 7.1 channel Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio bitstream output, which is optional specification of HDMI ver1.3. This makes them a perfect match for the recently announced STR-DA5300ES and STR-DA4300ES AV receivers, which also feature the ability to decode the advanced audio codecs. The new BD players also feature Dolby TrueHD, along with the Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio decoding function via HDMI, to offer a better sound experience with existing receivers.

The Blu-ray Disc players feature 1080/60p and 24p True Cinema output. They are compatible with most standard DVDs and feature 1080p upscaling through HDMI to capable HDTV sets, improving the picture performance of existing DVD libraries.

The new players support AVCHD discs encoded with x.v.Color™ (xvYCC) technology, an international standard for wide color space. The standard expands the current data range of video by about 1.8 times, allowing the players to output more natural and vivid colors similar to what the human eye can actually see. The players also feature compatibility with an array of video formats, including BD-R/RE (BDMV mode), DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW (Video Mode), CD, CD-R/RW (CD-DA format), MP3, and JPEG on DVD recordable media.

Both the BDP-S2000ES and BDP-S500 players incorporate BRAVIA® TheatreSync™ through HDMI. This allows for integrated operation with a compatible BRAVIA flat-panel LCD HDTV sets and audio/video receivers. With the touch of a button, you can easily power on and synch the inputs of compatible Sony AV devices connected to the players via HDMI for hassle-free enjoyment of high-definition Blu-ray Discs.

The units offer optical and coaxial digital audio outputs, along with 5.1 channel decoding capability for backward compatibility with existing A/V receivers.

The new BDP-S2000ES and BDP-S500 players will be available this fall for about $1,300 and $700, respectively. They will be offered at Sony Style stores, online at sonystyle.com, at military base exchanges, and at authorized retailers nationwide.

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As usual, more confusion about DTS HR and MA. The official announcement doesn't mention MA but the article on the OP does. I am getting really fed up with this mess...

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As usual, more confusion about DTS HR and MA. The official announcement doesn't mention MA but the article on the OP does. I am getting really fed up with this mess...

Tell me about it. Everyday I hate DTS more and more.
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are you kidding me..... sony what is your deal... your too freaking expensive... are you trying to get more sales for the ps3 because this isnt helping..... being expensive wont win the war.... money is the thing

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I guess the real question is: What will the $1300 BD player do that the PS3 won't?
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Sony High-end?

Although Sony's core business caters to the mass market, they DO dabble in the high end on occasion. A lot of their nicer offerings never make it to N. America.

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Yeah more 1.0 compliant highly overpriced players..

Seriously what's the point, everyone will just buy the PS3..
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Hey, they are appealing to the high end....

Toshiba is appealling to the low end.

And if they keep doing that, then the war really WILL be over.

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Hey, they are appealing to the high end....

Toshiba is appealling to the low end.

And the Onkyo and Integra HD DVD Players are appealing to whom?

And the kicker? These expensive Sony BD players are not even 1.1 compliant. What are they doing, moving backwards?.
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Okay after seeing the photos I am not impressed. The ES stuff usually looks pretty sleek. No SACD support from a Sony ES product. Pretty stupid for a $1300 machine. The specs are the same for the cheaper BDP-S500. Tell me this is a 1.1 spec player for that price.
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No matter how many players I see being released, are there really any that will outperform the ps3 ?
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Okay after seeing the photos I am not impressed. The ES stuff usually looks pretty sleek. No SACD support from a Sony ES product. Pretty stupid for a $1300 machine. The specs are the same for the cheaper BDP-S500. Tell me this is a 1.1 spec player for that price.

ditto...
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No matter how many players I see being released, are there really any that will outperform the ps3 ?

None I've seen, also none I've seen in the similar price range.

Really confusing why they are flooding the market with $600+ players when it's pretty clear BD needs some $300 or less players.
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The prices are high but I for one won't buy those cheap looking and cheaply built hd players by either format.So you buy one for 250.00 and all it does is
keep brakin down after a few viewings.rather spend the money on something thats looks good and will hopefully last a lot longer then those cheaply built
players.
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Surely not another Sony 1.0 player? Un-friggin-believable! Sounds like no internal MA decoding either. Disappointing if true.
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