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Denon bdp3800=Marantz bd8002,Denon 1800=7003.They are from D and M both,I think the sound of Denon is by far better.


Thanks for that great insight. LOL

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Denon bdp3800=Marantz bd8002,Denon 1800=7003.They are from D and M both,I think the sound of Denon is by far better.

And I disagree. Troll.
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A twin which gets no respect as I've not seen any reviews of it; everyone's going for the Denon, it seems. But the 8002 has a Realta chip, and SO processors are said to be very good with video-based sources (of which I have a lot). That might make a nice compliment to my EDGE, which is very good with film.

I was keeping an eye on this thread and saw this comment. As a fence sitter, I agree with this. Woefully little information out there about this player. As I understand it there are few refinement type differences between this player and its Denon brother besides just the warranty, but heck...I'm still not 100 percent sure.

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I would like to get off the fence soon.
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I've been told that the Marantz is simply a rebranded Denon 3800 with a better warranty. That could be true, as both brands share the same parent company and the manuals read very similarly from what I've seen (not that I've read both all the way through). Still, Marantz offers a 3-year warranty versus the Denon's one, and the 3800 thread has many reports of issues, as does the Denon 2930/3930 thread. I'm not sure what to make of that, but I like the Marantz's styling better than its principal competitors (though the more-expensive Pioneer Elite 09 is a gorgeous player).

I need to see this thing in action, that's it. And on my TV (a PRO-111).
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the What Hi-Fi website mentioned a Marantz "universal" player is in the works. Anyone heard anything?
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the What Hi-Fi website mentioned a Marantz "universal" player is in the works. Anyone heard anything?

I have no doubt it will be based on the upcoming Denon A1UDCI universal player...as every Marantz BD player seems to be a Denon clone these days.

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I was keeping an eye on this thread and saw this comment. As a fence sitter, I agree with this. Woefully little information out there about this player. As I understand it there are few refinement type differences between this player and its Denon brother besides just the warranty, but heck...I'm still not 100 percent sure.

I've now seen a few mini-reviews of this player online and all are positive, other than the usual complaint about it being only 1.1. I also noted Crutchfield is running low stock; not so for the Denon 3800. I wonder if there's significance in that.
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I'll wait till the stock runs out, then should expect stock with the new firmware. Audio Advisor had a 10% discount online but that offer seems to have ended.
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I'll wait till the stock runs out, then should expect stock with the new firmware. Audio Advisor had a 10% discount online but that offer seems to have ended.


6ave has it for 25% off with coupon code AFLAUD25. Making the price $1500 w free shipping. Just update the firmware yourself...very easy to do. Esp on a Mac. See my earlier post.

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Thanks Cd. Might pull the trigger on this.
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I have no doubt it will be based on the upcoming Denon A1UDCI universal player...as every Marantz BD player seems to be a Denon clone these days.

Something (other than cosmetics) must be different, if they tag it with a heavier warranty than the Denon. Isn't that supposed to be a reflection of the company's confidence in their product or some such idea?
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That's a smokin' deal on this unit. I got mine in NY for the same price at Datavision on Black Friday. REALLY glad I pulled the trigger too...
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Something (other than cosmetics) must be different, if they tag it with a heavier warranty than the Denon. Isn't that supposed to be a reflection of the company's confidence in their product or some such idea?

Well, you can always do what I do and download both manuals (when available) and compare. The last page where the specs are located is very telling. I recall the Denon 3800 and the Marantz 8002 having identical SNR, THD, etc. numbers.

We can talk about how the power supplies are different, the type of "different experience" you get with a Marantz dealer vs a Denon dealer but in the end, the numbers are the same as supplied by the manufacturer.

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Well, you can always do what I do and download both manuals (when available) and compare. The last page where the specs are located is very telling. I recall the Denon 3800 and the Marantz 8002 having identical SNR, THD, etc. numbers.

We can talk about how the power supplies are different, the type of "different experience" you get with a Marantz dealer vs a Denon dealer but in the end, the numbers are the same as supplied by the manufacturer.

If these two players are the same why Denon has numerous FW updates and Marantz has only one?
Did anyone try the FW update yet? I have the disc already burned but did not have time to update my 8002 yet.
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If these two players are the same why Denon has numerous FW updates and Marantz has only one?

The Denon 3800 has only had 3 updates. The Marantz unit came out quite a bit later than the Denon and would have been released with more up-to-date firmware initially.
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Well, you can always do what I do and download both manuals (when available) and compare. The last page where the specs are located is very telling. I recall the Denon 3800 and the Marantz 8002 having identical SNR, THD, etc. numbers.

We can talk about how the power supplies are different, the type of "different experience" you get with a Marantz dealer vs a Denon dealer but in the end, the numbers are the same as supplied by the manufacturer.

I downloaded both manuals a while ago, but have given them only a cursory look. There was great similarity from what I saw. But again, I haven't read them.
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The Denon 3800 has only had 3 updates. The Marantz unit came out quite a bit later than the Denon and would have been released with more up-to-date firmware initially.

Thanks for the info.
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I'm planning to pull the trigger on the 6ave deal.

But before I do, how are your experiences with them? Never dealt with them before. Are they easy to deal with if there are problems?

Thanks in advance.
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Did anyone get a lock up while watching The Death Race? The lock up occurred almost at the end of chapter 14. Nothing was working, not the remote or the buttons on front display of the player. After about 8 minutes the player shut down. I went back to the same place in chapter 14, but the movie played without any more lock ups to the end.
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Oh no, something negative. Don't mess with my head now.
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Did anyone get a lock up while watching The Death Race? The lock up occurred almost at the end of chapter 14. Nothing was working, not the remote or the buttons on front display of the player. After about 8 minutes the player shut down. I went back to the same place in chapter 14, but the movie played without any more lock ups to the end.

No problems at all. Played all the way through without any lockup. I have NOT done update 1.09 since I have had only two minor problems in past and no problems since. I have the l.09 update on disk but will just hold it until I start having problems. I am really happy with this player to date.
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No problems at all. Played all the way through without any lockup. I have NOT done update 1.09 since I have had only two minor problems in past and no problems since. I have the l.09 update on disk but will just hold it until I start having problems. I am really happy with this player to date.

I did the same thing. I burned the CD but did not upgrade my player yet. I just do not want to redo all the settings again. I am happy with it the way I have it set up right now. I will upgrade the player if it will start having more problems in the future.
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1. Download firmware from Marantz and make sure that the BD8002V1109 folder is on your desktop.

2. Insert blank disk in drive

3. Open disk utility

4. On desktop (not on any icons) right click and in the drop down box select"NEW BURN FOLDER.fpbf"
(burn folder will appear on desktop)

5.Open BD8002V1109 Folder

6. Drag the file" E5E30UD1109NA1.bin" to the burn folder you created on the desktop

7. Click on the Burn Folder

8. Once you click on the burn folder another box will open with the contents of the folder. In the right hand corner you will see an option that says burn.

9. Click on burn and the .Bin file will burn to the disk.

10. Done

Thanks to Dave on Denon BD Thread!

Going back to this post (sorry it's been so long), am I correct in my understanding that a MAC can burn the disk without additional software whereas a PC needs NERO or EasyCDCreator or something like that?

I had downloaded a trial version of NERO and didn't get anywhere with it. If I don't have to, I'd rather not spend the $70-$100 o NERO just for one disc.

I'd really like to finally get around to this update, but as mentioned earlier - I don't want to "Brick" my player...

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im at 1.109 , i did the update, everything is fine here, did not test the Wanted Hulk movie so far for lockups but am confident... i just had to redo my settings (2min) but otherwise it's all good!!! fantastic player....
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I tried creating a disc using the MAC procedure above on my mother's mac-mini and when put in my 8002 it showed a disc error. Same when I burned discs on my PC (non-nero/cdcreator).

Can someone help with a simple way of creating a disc? Admittedly I am a bit useless in the specific protocols of this sort of thing. I am really frustrated now though.

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iknow this is not important topic but just wanted to ask if somebody tried the sd card slot , mine doesn,t work at all. i've putted 3 different sd cards and no go here
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Hey Dave7,

Why can't you just contact Marantz tech support and request them to mail you a disk? You spent enough money purchasing this unit that obviously had a problem, I'd say that's the least they owe you... That sounds like the easy way. Just my 2 cents.
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Hey Dave7,

Why can't you just contact Marantz tech support and request them to mail you a disk? You spent enough money purchasing this unit that obviously had a problem, I'd say that's the least they owe you... That sounds like the easy way. Just my 2 cents.

I contacted Marantz tech support about sending me the disc with F/W update , but the answer was that they are not equipped for that.
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I have one more computer to try, but I'm not optimistic. I'm just too cheap to buy nero or CD Creator for a one-time use.

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