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post #1 of 12544 Old 11-09-2007, 07:33 AM - Thread Starter
 
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Okey dokey, I'm starting this thread because this newest model from Panasonic has started showing up at retail.

My order from Circuit City is being delivered today, so I wil have additional comments later tonight, but a friend picked up a unit at retail, also a Circuit City, on the west coast yesterday. I'll let Brad post his comments, but from our conversation last night, those with HDMI 1.3 receivers can be prepared to get happy.

More to come.

UPDATE:

Here is a list of current issues that we hope to get a fix for:
Current BD30 issue summary: (other issues fixed with firmware 1.6)

1) Forced 24p option (would help many folks)
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I Picked one up at CC in Arizona last night..
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Looking forward to your report Obi
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Getting mine delivered today too although Fedex tracking hasn't updated my tracking to indicate "on the truck". Hmmm, I paid extra to have it delivered today too. I better get it!
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ordered mine from CC on wed and it is out for delivery today, cant wait to toy around with it

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I checked the stock at BB and CC here locally and none of them have it. Grrrrrrr.....
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Crossroad,

I was at bb last night. An associate looked up the player for me. It is in the system. According to him, no BB's have them in stock as of yet, but this will be a stocked player in stores.
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I'm hoping to pick one up In store today...

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Thanks for the reply info. Yeah I was at BB last night too. I asked if he could tell me the release date. He tried for several minutes and then said he couldn't tell, but that it was in the system so it should be out within the next week or two.
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Hmm...the rumor is this piece decodes none of the lossless formats. True?

Since it is 1.3 it can send them all via biotstream. Nice for sure but HDMI 1.3 has not made it to the dedicated processors yet, just LPCM over HDMI.

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Getting mine delivered today too although Fedex tracking hasn't updated my tracking to indicate "on the truck". Hmmm, I paid extra to have it delivered today too. I better get it!

Damn CC...they ended up sending it Home Delivery instead of express, which I paid extra for. I will get it tomorrow. I immediately called them and got a refund for the express shipping charge but needless to say, I gave them a few choice words.
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Hmm...the rumor is this piece decodes none of the lossless formats. True?

Since it is 1.3 it can send them all via biotstream. Nice for sure but HDMI 1.3 has not made it to the dedicated processors yet, just LPCM over HDMI.


Yea, no internal decoding for any of the new formats. Is not rumor, it already has being confirm by the reviewers.
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Yea, no internal decoding for any of the new formats. Is not rumor, it already has being confirm by the reviewers.

Hmm.....oh, well.

My quest continues for a player that will decode all lossless formats... I guess Denon looks like the winner so far.

That said, my Panny BD10 has been perfect.

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My BD 10 has been perfect as well. Except for the lack of DTS MA decoding or bitstreaming. If it only had that I wouldn't even be thinking of the 30.
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Since it is 1.3 it can send them all via biotstream. Nice for sure but HDMI 1.3 has not made it to the dedicated processors yet, just LPCM over HDMI.

The Integra and the Onkyo Pro can decode Dolby® Digital Plus, Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.
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where are the reviews? Isn't this the kind of thing that most people take the day off work for???
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The Integra and the Onkyo Pro can decode Dolby® Digital Plus, Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.

OK...Processors Like Lexicon, Halcro, Anthem,etc..

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OK...Processors Like Lexicon, Halcro, Anthem,etc..

Jeff, I have checked Adcom, Amplifier Technologies Inc., Anthem, B & K, Cary Audio Design, Fosgate Audionics, Halcro, Lexicon, N A D Electronics, Outlaw Audio, Sherbourn Technologies and Sherwood Newcastle and none of them list decoding Dolby® Digital Plus, Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.
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The lack of internal high def audio decoding on the new Panasonic is VERY disappointing! This is the Profile 1.1 player that I was considering as my move to be Purple. Granted, I plan to eventually upgrade to an A/V Receiver that decodes the high def audio formats but I didn't want to have to be forced to do that at the same time as purchasing a Blu-ray player ($$$OUCH!).

Not to derail the conversation about the BD30, but, what pending profile 1.1 player is in the pipe that WILL internally decode the high def audio? Has such an animal been announced?

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The lack of internal high def audio decoding on the new Panasonic is VERY disappointing! This is the Profile 1.1 player that I was considering as my move to be Purple. Granted, I plan to eventually upgrade to an A/V Receiver that decodes the high def audio formats but I didn't want to have to be forced to do that at the same time as purchasing a Blu-ray player ($$$OUCH!).

Not to derail the conversation about the BD30, but, what pending profile 1.1 player is in the pipe that WILL internally decode the high def audio? Has such an animal been announced?

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there are no players from either side that can internally decode DTS-HD MA, the fact that this one can bitstream and is 1.1 compliant should be enough.
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The lack of internal high def audio decoding on the new Panasonic is VERY disappointing! This is the Profile 1.1 player that I was considering as my move to be Purple. Granted, I plan to eventually upgrade to an A/V Receiver that decodes the high def audio formats but I didn't want to have to be forced to do that at the same time as purchasing a Blu-ray player ($$$OUCH!).

Not to derail the conversation about the BD30, but, what pending profile 1.1 player is in the pipe that WILL internally decode the high def audio? Has such an animal been announced?

Mark

Mark,

I agree with you. I will eventually will get a new pre-pro but not just to be able to ultilize the BD30. It looks like I will stay with the 1400 for now.

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there are no players from either side that can internally decode DTS-HD MA, the fact that this one can bitstream and is 1.1 compliant should be enough.

But the BD30 can't even internally decode Dolby Digital Plus nor True HD, both of which are also high-def audio formats.

Without buying a brand new AVR, I would be relegated to listening to just Dolby Digital or DTS. Very disappointing!!

BTW, this is not a dig on Blu in general. I am genuinely considering going purple. But I'm flabbergasted to discover that this new profile 1.1 player doesn't internally decode any HD audio formats.

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One thing I'd like to know from those who have this player is how does SD DVD upconversion look PQ-wise. I'd especially like to hear comments from former owners of the Samsung BD-P1200 which is an excellent upscaler. Also, anyone using this with an Onkyo 605 AVR (or any of the current Onkyo AVR's that do the latest HD audio codecs) - can you comment on any issues with lip sync running everything through HDMI. That's my list - hope one of you owners can comment.
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I guess they think that the only reason people will buy this player is for DTS MA, profile 1.1 or both. It seems they think that if you are looking for anything else you will just buy the BD 10. If they made it decode everything in player except DTS MA there wouldn't be much incentive to buy this player. Thus it seems logical to either have the player decode everything, or nothing. Panasonic obviously chose the cheaper nothing route.
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I guess they think that the only reason people will buy this player is for DTS MA, profile 1.1 or both....


And/or 1080p/24.
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Very true. I forgot about that.
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I thought this was the owner's thread?

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Mine was delivered yesterday. Audio is not a priority for me, so I can't provided insight on that front. The reason I got this player was because of early reports of superior PQ. Based on my early impressions, I don't see that. Switching back and forth between this player and the PS3 on Flyboys (which I happen to have two copies of) I could see no difference in PQ between the two players. Haven't yet tried SD.
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Mine was delivered yesterday. Audio is not a priority for me, so I can't provided insight on that front. The reason I got this player was because of early reports of superior PQ. Based on my early impressions, I don't see that. Switching back and forth between this player and the PS3 on Flyboys (which I happen to have two copies of) I could see no difference in PQ between the two players. Haven't yet tried SD.

What is the display you're using?

I find this disappointing if this is the case. I too am using a PS3 and I will not upgrade strictly for bitstream - it will have to be for both bitstream and PQ.

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