Originally Posted by townofturley
What's hard to understand? Denon made a decision to introduce a product aimed very specifically at those with the newest equipment that don't need onboard processing of the advanced codecs. Those same people have NO need to component or analog outputs. So why should Denon include them? Are you pissed off at Denon for some reason?
Denon equipment is know to be quite excellent. And people are willing to pay for it. I could have gotten a cheaper Onkyo or Pioneer amp, but I chose Denon for it's build quality and reliability. It's a superior product. I've had Denon amps for years and would never get another brand. I'm more than happy to pay for the Denon name and quality. Is that so terrible?
The upcoming Denon 2500 may or may not be of better quality than the Panasonic 30. I'll bet it will be. And people will pay for it. You may not, but many others will.
Sorry but Denon's reliability is not a universal truth. I have Denon gear and I've had to return it twice and my receiver recently had to go into service. Their service repair center is awful (they returned the unit to me non-working and with damage). Now Pioneer is in my experience (and everybody's mileage may vary here) has been superb, never broke down (I have a DVD player which is 8 years old and is constantly in use by the kids - so heavy use).
My point is I cannot understand why even the most staunch Denon fans would buy the 2500. No SACD/DVD-A? No Denon-link? The Denon-link I consider a "slap in the face" for Denon supporters. It has reportedly much less jitter than HDMI (and firewire as well), so I expected Denon to take it forward.
I and many others I assume have the Panny now and although it is not built like a fortress, it is a superb BR player, it is fast, relialble and silent. It can do all the 2500 can and more.
Unless your motto is always get the higher priced unit, I cannot see much reason for it (I was talking to a dealer in NY and he told me he has customers who won't even look at speakers priced lower than $40K, they first ask how much this is, if it is like $60K and higher they take it sometimes without even listening to the speakers!!!).
Sorry for the rant, but I do believe other posters do have a point that Denon does not make sense here. The 3800 is another story, it will be the only player to do DTS-HD MA onboard decoding and the SD-DVD will probably be much better than lower priced units such as the Panny, but in my case I already have the Denon 5910 so it is not on my shopping list.