I got a little education today from a Denon dealer about the DVD-2500BT and the DVD-3800BD. First, he said he expected to see the DVD-2500BT around the end of December or first week of January. He said the DVD-3800BD would follow about 30 days later.
The interesting part is this: He said that these two players would be the only ones on the market so far to have
"Bitstream Bypass". This means they can output HD audio natively. All other players convert HD audio to PCM for the HDMI outputs -- even those with HDMI 1.3. Where this comes in handy, he said, is when you combine these players with a Denon AV receiver that has all the HD audio formats...those models being the AVR-2808CI and higher.
The other tidbit he shared with me and that I was not aware of...there are differences in how various manufactures handle Dolby and dts HD bitstreams. Pansonic, for example, outputs dts 5.1, but not 7.1. It does output Dolby 7.1. The LG dual player doesn't support 7.1 from either Dolby or dts. The Toshiba H35 only does 5.1 (all formats) via HDMI. The Pioneer Elite BDP-94H does not support dts HD....pretty confusing I would say.
This dealer claims that the Denon DVD-2500BT and DVD-3800BD will support all formats in 5.1 or 7.1. So this capability along with the fact that I own an AVR-4308CI and can take advantage of the "Bitstream Bypass" feature pretty much seals the deal for me. I put a deposit on a DVD-2500BT.