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Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 08:41 PM 12-02-2008
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Originally Posted by Sovelin View Post

Okay, so I've been looking at BD players for a while now, and I think I'm settled on the BD35. I have an extensive DVD collection, and want a player with excellent upconversion. The BD35, I've heard, is decent in upconversion, but there are others with better upconversion. I have a dedicated upconverter, the Phillips DVP5990. Does anyone know if the Phillips does upconversion better than the BD player? If it does I'll keep it. If not, than there is no reason for me to keep both.

I think ultimately your better off comparing them yourself, especially if you have the ability to do so.

hipchecker's Avatar hipchecker 08:59 PM 12-02-2008
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Originally Posted by jmpage2 View Post

Wrong. Costco still offers a "lifetime" warranty on almost all electronics (and other products) that they sell, with the exception of a few things as other people mentioned (mp3 players, televisions, computers, etc).

Let me put it to you this way. I returned a two year old Toshiba A2 HD DVD player to them with original box, receipt, etc, and they simply said "ya, they lost that format war didn't they" and I left with $250 cash in my pocket.
.

I may stand corrected. I will ask them about DVD players.

They changed their policy about a year ago, so you may just have been grandfathered in. I hope you are right, and if that's the case, I'll definitely buy from Costco.

I just got a costco CCard and already got a few hundred back so I'll be keeping my membership for a while.
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 09:08 PM 12-02-2008
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I may stand corrected. I will ask them about DVD players.

They changed their policy about a year ago, so you may just have been grandfathered in. I hope you are right, and if that's the case, I'll definitely buy from Costco.

I just got a costco CCard and already got a few hundred back so I'll be keeping my membership for a while.

This is likely the case.
Sovelin's Avatar Sovelin 11:48 PM 12-02-2008
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I think ultimately your better off comparing them yourself, especially if you have the ability to do so.

I do not have the ability to do so. I do not own the BD player. I was hoping someone who has actually tried the player would answer. If you aren't going to be helpful, don't answer.
redgtconv's Avatar redgtconv 01:30 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by spbull472 View Post

I'm awaiting the arrival of a Denon AVR-1909 and am now looking at a blu-ray player. Two seem to stand out for the price.

Panasonic BD35 and the Sharp BD-HP21U, both are around the same price and I was wondering if people had opinions of one over the other.

Oh, my TV is an older Sony Wega HDTV KD30XS955. I'm still waiting to see if anyone will ever make a LCD that will in a 37 1/3 W x 39 1/2 H armoire and have 120hz refresh rate (I watch a lot of sports). So far I only see 60hz 37" wide screens.

I just bought the Sharp BD-HP21U and I think it is excellent at both Bluray and upconversion of standard DVD. The audio is also excellent and load time is faster than most others. I have a Sharp Aquos Tv, so I have the additional benefit of using only 1 remote. When you turn on either device, the other one automatically tuns on and begins to play. I definitely recommend it for anyone with an Aquos tv.
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 05:33 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by Sovelin View Post

I do not have the ability to do so. I do not own the BD player. I was hoping someone who has actually tried the player would answer. If you aren't going to be helpful, don't answer.

What's with the attitude?

Many of us have tried the BD35(myself included), but don't have your Philips DVD player or know what kind of display your using to make a valid comparison as to the difference you'll see in upconvert quality.

If your looking for a general comment about the upconvert quality, the question has been posted and answered on every page for the last 10 pages of this thread. If want a better upconvert player then get a Samsung. If you want a better overall player stick with a Panasonic or Sony.
mlw911's Avatar mlw911 07:05 AM 12-03-2008
Thanks Donnie. Minicumscc take a look at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...ctronics&img=1

The 6 inputs on the red, white, blue, pink, green, purple in the center clump of inputs for the front l &r , rear l & r, center and sub.

From looking at my owners manual and the back of the receiver I have what looks like 5.1 RCA inputs for the fronts/center and surround. Remember I am new at this but I am assuming that is what you mean by 5.1-channel audio inputs. Based on that I definitely need to stay away from the Sony/Panny 35's and step up to the 55's and of the 55's the PAnny vs Sony?

Thanks this is really helpful.
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 07:33 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by mlw911 View Post

Thanks Donnie. Minicumscc take a look at:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...ctronics&img=1

The 6 inputs on the red, white, blue, pink, green, purple in the center clump of inputs for the front l &r , rear l & r, center and sub.

From looking at my owners manual and the back of the receiver I have what looks like 5.1 RCA inputs for the fronts/center and surround. Remember I am new at this but I am assuming that is what you mean by 5.1-channel audio inputs. Based on that I definitely need to stay away from the Sony/Panny 35's and step up to the 55's and of the 55's the PAnny vs Sony?

Thanks this is really helpful.

Yes, you'll use the 5.1 RCA inputs you pointed out. You'll want to skip the Sony S350 and the Panasonic BD35. Your logical choice would be between the Sony S550 and the Panansonic BD55. Both are pretty equivalent as far as features. Here is the comparison thread. LINK
jmpage2's Avatar jmpage2 07:59 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by hipchecker View Post

I may stand corrected. I will ask them about DVD players.

They changed their policy about a year ago, so you may just have been grandfathered in. I hope you are right, and if that's the case, I'll definitely buy from Costco.

I just got a costco CCard and already got a few hundred back so I'll be keeping my membership for a while.

No, it has nothing to do with being grandfathered in. DVD players are not one of the items that is limited to a 90 day exchange/return policy. The same goes for Blu-Ray players.
DR. BILL's Avatar DR. BILL 08:04 AM 12-03-2008
Good Info Guys,
My receiver has HDMI so I would think that would be the path for me to use in setting up a BD player. If true, the 5.1 analog would not be a benefit for me, correct? Therefore the Panny 55 would offer nothing over the 35 for me, if I understand this correctly.
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 08:19 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by DR. BILL View Post

Good Info Guys,
My receiver has HDMI so I would think that would be the path for me to use in setting up a BD player. If true, the 5.1 analog would not be a benefit for me, correct? Therefore the Panny 55 would offer nothing over the 35 for me, if I understand this correctly.

Does your receiver decode advanced audio?
DR. BILL's Avatar DR. BILL 08:40 AM 12-03-2008
I have a Yamaha RX-V2600. It has a very long list of codecs that it decodes. I am not sure of the "latest". They seem to add new ones every year.
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 08:53 AM 12-03-2008
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I have a Yamaha RX-V2600. It has a very long list of codecs that it decodes. I am not sure of the "latest". They seem to add new ones every year.

According to the receiver spec's it doesn't. The Pananasonic BD35 will decode TrueHD and DTS-HD MA via HDMI. This player will work fine with your receiver. No need to get the BD55 and go the analog route.
Sgooter's Avatar Sgooter 08:59 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by DR. BILL View Post

I have a Yamaha RX-V2600. It has a very long list of codecs that it decodes. I am not sure of the "latest". They seem to add new ones every year.

Also, I think your Yamaha receiver can pass 1080i over the HDMI, but not 1080p, which may or may not be of some concern.
mlw911's Avatar mlw911 09:04 AM 12-03-2008
Will going with the Panny/Sony 55's be better than just using the optical on the Panny/Sony 35's into my receiver? From what I am reading in some other places the sound pickup may not be that much of a difference on the higher end BD players. Is my argument flawed?
Donnie Eldridge's Avatar Donnie Eldridge 09:33 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by mlw911 View Post

Will going with the Panny/Sony 55's be better than just using the optical on the Panny/Sony 35's into my receiver? From what I am reading in some other places the sound pickup may not be that much of a difference on the higher end BD players. Is my argument flawed?

If your interest truly lies in the best audio quality then the BD55 and the S550 are the way to go.
DR. BILL's Avatar DR. BILL 09:36 AM 12-03-2008
Sgooter,
I am concerned about the fact that the 2600 is a 1080i upscaler. If sending a 1080P signal from the Blu-Ray player via HDMI, won't the 2600 simply pass the 1080P signal on to the 1080P HDTV or do I need to send the video signal directly to the HDTV and the audio separately to the 2600? I would think that the video signal could be passed through the 2600 with decoding by the player. I hope my 2600 is not going to hold me up on getting the 1080P signal to my new 1080P HDTV. Thanks for all your help and to others on the board.
Sovelin's Avatar Sovelin 09:59 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by Donnie Eldridge View Post

What's with the attitude?

Many of us have tried the BD35(myself included), but don't have your Philips DVD player or know what kind of display your using to make a valid comparison as to the difference you'll see in upconvert quality.

If your looking for a general comment about the upconvert quality, the question has been posted and answered on every page for the last 10 pages of this thread. If want a better upconvert player then get a Samsung. If you want a better overall player stick with a Panasonic or Sony.

Sorry, but I've noticed a pattern in this thread of people being unhelpful and rude in this thread, so I assumed you were doing something of the sort. Out of the last four questions I posted in this thread, this was the only one someone responded to, and I thought you were being rude.

I was just hoping that someone had tried the other player. Since I only have the one TV, if I got the Panasonic, it would be hard for me to tell which is doing a better job (I would put a dvd in one, watch it, than take the disc out and put it in the other). Without having both run side-by-side, it'd be hard for me to tell which is doing the better job.

I've also noticed when you look at the tech specs for products it lists a lot of things that relate to how it decodes things, hinting at how good it is overall. Since I'm fairly new at this, I don't understand what any of those specs mean. I was thinking someone who could just look at the specs would have some idea if one was generally better than the other.
Sgooter's Avatar Sgooter 10:00 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by DR. BILL View Post

Sgooter,
I am concerned about the fact that the 2600 is a 1080i upscaler. If sending a 1080P signal from the Blu-Ray player via HDMI, won't the 2600 simply pass the 1080P signal on to the 1080P HDTV or do I need to send the video signal directly to the HDTV and the audio separately to the 2600? I would think that the video signal could be passed through the 2600 with decoding by the player. I hope my 2600 is not going to hold me up on getting the 1080P signal to my new 1080P HDTV. Thanks for all your help and to others on the board.

You're asking the right question, but I don't have a factual answer for you.
My opinion is that your receiver cannot pass thru the BR player's 1080p video over the HDMI because the 2600 is limited to 720p or 1080i. Connecting the BR player's HDMI cable directly to your 1080p TV and the player's analog outputs to your receiver may be an option, but I believe only the Panny -BD55 model will pass the new blu-ray audio codecs over analog. Don't take my opinion as fact. Let's wait and see if others more technically knowledgeable in this specific area can help solve this puzzle for you.
mister_rushing's Avatar mister_rushing 10:08 AM 12-03-2008
This is my set up... what would be the best BD Player for me?

52" Samsung LCD - LN-T5265F : http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-32306310.html
Pansonic Home Theater - SC-PT650 - http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater...-32392659.html

I'm leaning toward the BD-P2500 at the moment. But again I don't know.
The 3 total I am looking are...

Samsung BD-P2500
Pansonic DMP-BD55
Sony S550

I want:

1. The best blu ray image I can get, regardless of long load times.
2. I wan the best upscaling I can get for regular dvds, which I'm guessing ist he HQV with the Samsung player.

Please help!
Mark S.'s Avatar Mark S. 10:09 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by jpeter1093 View Post

Don't worry, Mark; many of us here don't have anything else to do but perform searches for you.

I'll get started right now...please watch your email for my bill. It will include my Paypal account.

Sheesh!


Actually I've tried to search for the answer many times. So either I'm not using the right search criteria, or I would have to read 103 pages to find an answer that may or may not be there, when I'm sure someone here knows the answer off the top of their head. No need to get upset. Either way, I haven't been able to find my answer so I tried to get some help here.

Mark
jpeter1093's Avatar jpeter1093 10:18 AM 12-03-2008
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Actually I've tried to search for the answer many times. So either I'm not using the right search criteria, or I would have to read 103 pages to find an answer that may or may not be there, when I'm sure someone here knows the answer off the top of their head. No need to get upset. Either way, I haven't been able to find my answer so I tried to get some help here.

Mark

Mark, I do apologize if I offended you. It's not that you asked a question; it was your comment about not having time to do a search. You hadn't mentioned that you tried to search.

Ok to move on?
DR. BILL's Avatar DR. BILL 10:29 AM 12-03-2008
I knew that the Yamaha 2600 would only upconvert to 1080i, but was hoping that it would simply pass through the 1080P signal while processing the audio, all via HDMI. If not, I will skip the Blu-Ray player and continue to use my Pioneer DV79 and upscale to 1080i. Heck, with a 40 inch HDTV, I would not see much improvement at 1080P anyway.
BIslander's Avatar BIslander 10:36 AM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by DR. BILL View Post

I knew that the Yamaha 2600 would only upconvert to 1080i, but was hoping that it would simply pass through the 1080P signal while processing the audio, all via HDMI. If not, I will skip the Blu-Ray player and continue to use my Pioneer DV79 and upscale to 1080i. Heck, with a 40 inch HDTV, I would not see much improvement at 1080P anyway.

Before bailing on this, what does the manual say about video pass-through and/or handling of 1080p signals? You might also try the Amps & Receivers forum. There's probably an owners thread for the 2600.
satin968's Avatar satin968 10:40 AM 12-03-2008
After reading through these forums, I am still confused and had a question for anyone willing to help. I want to get 2 BR players this month & I am still confused on which one of the newer models would work best for me.

I have a Onkyo 604( HDMI) with a (Samsung 6188) in one room and a Onkyo 504(no HDMI) with a Samsung 4253 in the other. Which of the currents BR players would work better for each set? The Panny 35, 55 (or BD-50)? or the Sony 350 or 550? of course the PS3 could also be considered. The main thing I care about are picture quality, sound quality and ability to play SD dvd's. Thats pretty much it. Lastly, is there a consistent source (as far as pricing) to get these (I read the pricing threads) or do you just have to search around for deals individually? Any help would be greatly appreciated since I am confused about all this and would really like to get the best player for the money ASAP. Thanks so much...
silverfx's Avatar silverfx 12:37 PM 12-03-2008
Hi all, I'm down to the Sony 350 vs Panny 35 for a cheap Blu ray.

Which is more responsive and faster to boot/load?
I3eyond's Avatar I3eyond 01:07 PM 12-03-2008
I have read and read and read on here and can't seem to find the Blu-Ray player right for me. Everyone on here is way too technical, albeit on other forums no one seems to know what they're talking about. Therefore, I like this forum; everyone seems knowledgeable.

-Just bought a Samsung LN46A550 for $1149

I want:

-Best PQ/$
-Reliability
-Full Functionality with new Blu-Ray releases
-Decent upconversion quality... if all new releases are Blu-Ray I don't really care at all about this.

What I don't care about:

-I'll never have any dedicated receivers or surround sound; the most my TV setup will ever consist of will be Charter HD box/package and a Blu-Ray player.
-Spending $600 on a player to get a questionable difference in PQ.

I want something that will go best with my TV, and I can't seem to find anything in my budget, at least not talked about on these forums.

I'd like to get a PS3, but they're just too darn expensive right now.

$300 max, but $200 preferred.

Is the Panasonic DMP-BD35 the best for me?

Gosh, for that much I could almost get a PS3 and be able to do high-def gaming, too. Hmmm....
Pugnax555's Avatar Pugnax555 01:18 PM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by I3eyond View Post

I have read and read and read on here and can't seem to find the Blu-Ray player right for me. Everyone on here is way too technical, albeit on other forums no one seems to know what they're talking about. Therefore, I like this forum; everyone seems knowledgeable.

-Just bought a Samsung LN46A550 for $1149

I want:

-Best PQ/$
-Reliability
-Full Functionality with new Blu-Ray releases
-Decent upconversion quality... if all new releases are Blu-Ray I don't really care at all about this.

What I don't care about:

-I'll never have any dedicated receivers or surround sound; the most my TV setup will ever consist of will be Charter HD box/package and a Blu-Ray player.
-Spending $600 on a player to get a questionable difference in PQ.

I want something that will go best with my TV, and I can't seem to find anything in my budget, at least not talked about on these forums.

I'd like to get a PS3, but they're just too darn expensive right now.

$300 max, but $200 preferred.

Get the Panasonic BD35 (+ 4 movies) fromthis Amazon link. It'll run you about $210 total. Very well-regarded player. Otherwise, get a Sony 350. Those two are pretty much the best low-priced players out there at the moment.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and don't forget to get the PDF for your free copies of Ratatouille and Nightmare Before Christmas by mail.
I3eyond's Avatar I3eyond 01:25 PM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

Get the Panasonic BD35 (+ 4 movies) fromthis Amazon link. It'll run you about $210 total. Very well-regarded player. Otherwise, get a Sony 350. Those two are pretty much the best low-priced players out there at the moment.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and don't forget to get the PDF for your free copies of Ratatouille and Nightmare Before Christmas by mail.

Before I jump on this, let me just make sure of something. Are most users on this forums videophiles? In other words, for an average joe this player will do just fine and I'll be quite happy with it if I don't know what to look for otherwise?
ack_bk's Avatar ack_bk 01:32 PM 12-03-2008
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Originally Posted by I3eyond View Post

Before I jump on this, let me just make sure of something. Are most users on this forums videophiles? In other words, for an average joe this player will do just fine and I'll be quite happy with it if I don't know what to look for otherwise?

Honestly you will be fine with this player. The Panasonic BD players have a history of solid playback, support, and are usually problem-free. You may have to do a firmware update periodically but it is pretty straightforward, especially if you have a USB drive or Internet connectivity.
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