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I never heard of a BD player not playing all BD movies, unless you're talking about 3D movies (or HD-DVDs). Yes, the Panny can play all BD movies.
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I never heard of a BD player not playing all BD movies, unless you're talking about 3D movies (or HD-DVDs). Yes, the Panny can play all BD movies.

There's movies that come out occasionally that players can't play for one reason or another (usually some new encryption), but players are soon updated via software to accomodate.

Some manufacturers are better than others and getting these updates out. Panasonic has been pretty good.

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There's movies that come out occasionally that players can't play for one reason or another (usually some new encryption), but players are soon updated via software to accomodate.

Some manufacturers are better than others and getting these updates out. Panasonic has been pretty good.

You're right. My Pioneer 51FD was terrible in that regard (new releases frequently required a firmware upgrade).
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I am looking for a suggestion on BD players that do Netflix, Amazon VOD and Vudu and have wifi built in.

Are there any out there that fit my request?

-Funk

I recently purchased a Sony BDP-BX37 and really like it. I replaced a 5 mo old Samsung BD-C5500C because I wanted Hulu support and I'm very satisfied.

It does not have wi-fi built in but its bigger sibling does, the BDP-BX57. They are supposed to be similar except for the wifi.

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Ok guys, thank's a lot for your help.
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What are the newer Samsung model #s of BDPs that might be suggested to replace a BDP-1500?

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I'm thinking of replacing my Panasonic BD-55 with the 110 but I'm a little unsure about using Viera Cast to access Neflix, etc. I think I only need one Viera Cast device to use those features... so no matter what display or reciever I have, just using the 110 will provide me access to those services. Is that correct?

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That's correct.

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That was quick! Think I'll place my order now.

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I'm looking for a player that is 3D capable and has the QDeo chip or something equally as good for upscaling. THX Cert. would be nice, but certainly not a requirement. I'm considering the Oppo 93, but was wondering if there are some alternatives. The Onkyo BD-SP808 looked good but doesn't do 3D.
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I'm looking for a player that is 3D capable and has the QDeo chip or something equally as good for upscaling. THX Cert. would be nice, but certainly not a requirement. I'm considering the Oppo 93, but was wondering if there are some alternatives. The Onkyo BD-SP808 looked good but doesn't do 3D.

I don't know how it comparers to the Qdeo chip, but the Sammy D6700 has an SoC chip...which apparently is good enough to convert 2D content to 3D.

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Hi all,

I need a blu-ray player for my new PN51D6500 Samsung Plasma ...
My list of features I want :
- 3D (best 3D possible)
- Of course 2D picture quality
- Speed speed speed -> loading time
- DVD upconverting

My nice-to-have-but-not-a-necessity list :
- Same remote (Samsung Anynet+)
- Easy to use remote / GUI

What I don't care for :
- Streaming apps (already have a Smart TV ...)
- Wi-fi
- Games - have a 360+PC for that already
- Sound quality - I use my TV speakers and I'm ok with that for now.
- 2D > 3D conversion (TV can do it already)

Any input will be greatly appreciated, thanks
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buy the 309 or wait for the 809, orsee if there is a 3d update for the 808 cinema13..

dvd up-convert is a waste of time if you're trying to down-convert something from a telecined 30fps to 24fps it looks crap
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buy the 309 or wait for the 809, orsee if there is a 3d update for the 808 cinema13..

dvd up-convert is a waste of time if you're trying to down-convert something from a telecined 30fps to 24fps it looks crap

Thanks for the reply.
It looks like this player have all the basic features I want.

But it's hard to go on with the Onkyo SP309 since I can't find any review for it 'cause it's too new. And that no store seems to carry it in Canada. (I can order it from Amazon.com though)
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We bought a Sony S370 for our one home. Liked it so much, bought another for our 2nd home. Viewing is on Panny 50" plasmas in both places.

Both are hooked up directly via ethernet cable to fast Comcast internet service. Both seem to play B-Ray discs perfectly. I am presently surprised by great quality of Netflix streaming. We only got Netflix because of the streaming feature altho we are on the minimal 1 disc at a time plan.

My question is: What would I get by paying more money? I know for about $60 more I could get built in wifi if I needed it. (Will probably get one for my son.) Would I get more sources of streaming with a more expensive unit?

I did read the past several pages in this 100+ page thread.


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What is the least expensive, non 3-D machine that has netflix ability built in? Audio outputs dont matter.
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What is differencee between a $130 player and a $400 player?
We bought a Sony S370 for our one home. Liked it so much, bought another for our 2nd home. Viewing is on Panny 50" plasmas in both places.

Both are hooked up directly via ethernet cable to fast Comcast internet service. Both seem to play B-Ray discs perfectly. I am presently surprised by great quality of Netflix streaming. We only got Netflix because of the streaming feature altho we are on the minimal 1 disc at a time plan.

My question is: What would I get by paying more money? I know for about $60 more I could get built in wifi if I needed it. (Will probably get one for my son.) Would I get more sources of streaming with a more expensive unit?

I did read the past several pages in this 100+ page thread.


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Usually features that you may or may not need. The ability to play SACD's & DVD Audio discs, multi channel analog outputs required for legacy AVR's, better analog audio conversion, built-in wifi, built in memory for BD Live, better DVD upconversion, ability to play PAL discs, etc.

So if your only interest is playing Blu-ray disc, you only get poorer with a $400 player.
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What is the least expensive, non 3-D machine that has netflix ability built in? Audio outputs dont matter.

The only one I can think of would be the Panasonic DMP-BD75.
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I've put off this whole Blu-ray thing long enough. Now is the time. I was hoping you guys can give me some player recommendations.

Here's what I'm needing:

-Excellent picture quality. This is far and away the most important factor for me.
-Excellent upconverting for standard DVDs. I want my DVDs to look the best they possibly can.
-Netflix streaming capability. Gotta love Netflix.
-Region-free or the ability to become region-free. (Region-free for standard DVDs is all I'm needing. Area-free for BDs is not necessary)
-Fast boot/load times. I've used BD players that take over a minute just to show signs of life. This would bug the crap out of me.
-I'd like to spend less than $300.

I know the new Oppo players would definitely suit me in terms of picture quality, but I'm a little put off by the price (especially if I'll be paying for a lot of features I'll never touch). I've also heard good things about some of the Panasonic players, and they seem to be more in my price range, but I'm unsure if they can be made region-free, so maybe someone can answer that for me.

Let's hear what you guys have to say.
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I've put off this whole Blu-ray thing long enough. Now is the time. I was hoping you guys can give me some player recommendations.

Here's what I'm needing:

-Excellent picture quality. This is far and away the most important factor for me.

They all look the same on Blu-Ray if you turn off any extra video processing settings in the player.


-Excellent upconverting for standard DVDs. I want my DVDs to look the best they possibly can.


Panasonic 110/210/310 is probably your best bet here in your price range but you MUST turn off "Super Resolution" which is turned on by default.


-Netflix streaming capability. Gotta love Netflix.


Um, all of them have Netflix nowadays.


-Region-free or the ability to become region-free. (Region-free for standard DVDs is all I'm needing. Area-free for BDs is not necessary)

No clue.

-Fast boot/load times. I've used BD players that take over a minute just to show signs of life. This would bug the crap out of me.

They all load pretty quickly this year.

-I'd like to spend less than $300.


Everything but the Oppo and Denon units are under $300.


I know the new Oppo players would definitely suit me in terms of picture quality, but I'm a little put off by the price (especially if I'll be paying for a lot of features I'll never touch). I've also heard good things about some of the Panasonic players, and they seem to be more in my price range, but I'm unsure if they can be made region-free, so maybe someone can answer that for me.

Let's hear what you guys have to say.

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Does the app for Netflix from this Panny gives you the option to enable subtitles?
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Does the app for Netflix from this Panny gives you the option to enable subtitles?

The 110/210/310 Netflix app does subtitles.
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the oppo 93 can do region free with a mod. it cost extra. I have a super disc that can do region free for dvds only.

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We bought a Sony S370 for our one home. Liked it so much, bought another for our 2nd home. Viewing is on Panny 50" plasmas in both places.

Both are hooked up directly via ethernet cable to fast Comcast internet service. Both seem to play B-Ray discs perfectly. I am presently surprised by great quality of Netflix streaming. We only got Netflix because of the streaming feature altho we are on the minimal 1 disc at a time plan.

My question is: What would I get by paying more money? I know for about $60 more I could get built in wifi if I needed it. (Will probably get one for my son.) Would I get more sources of streaming with a more expensive unit?

I did read the past several pages in this 100+ page thread.


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If all you want is bluray and Netflix, then you've made the right decision. But since you asked what you get for the difference, as a happy Oppo ($499) BDP-83 owner (which you can't get anymore), here's what you get for the same money in an Oppo $499 BDP-93:
  • 3D Bluray processing
  • QDEO 32 bit graphic processing
  • Netflix streaming processed by the Oppo internals
  • Blockbuster streaming using Oppo internals
  • Soon VUDU streaming
  • High end analog audio for older AVRs that don't support HDMI
  • Dual HDMI output ports for people who own 3d displays but not 3d capable AVRs
  • Ability to attach an eSATA hard drive with media on it like video, audio or photos, played through the Oppo internals
  • Ability to attach a USB hard drive with video, audio or photos, played through the Oppo internals.
  • DLNA capable to accept media (video, music, etc) served from your laptop over your network to the Oppo, processed and displayed.
  • Firmware updates to add new services (like streaming services), support new Bluray discs, etc.
  • Customizable by external companies to be region-free, so you can buy Blurays from abroad and have them play.
  • The best upconversion of DVDs to full HD. The number of DVDs to Bluray titles is still massive.
  • The best service available. Both phone service and return service are incredible.
  • Can act as a transport for high end video processors, but really competes well with units costing in the thousands.
  • Supports high quality sound formats in download formats like FLAC, WMA, WAV, etc.
  • Supports high quality sound formats in disc formats like HDCD, DVD-A, SACD, etc.
  • Competes with high end CD players > $1000
  • RS-232 control available for more complex remote control.

and I'm sure I've missed some things.

Again, if you're not looking for more than playing blurays and some streaming, you don't want or need this unit. If you're interested in multichannel audio, high quality streaming, network streaming of your own video, audio, etc. or the highest quality service available, then this is a great unit.

Just wanted to point out that a unit like the Oppo provides much more than just DVD-Audio and SACD
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What is the least expensive, non 3-D machine that has netflix ability built in? Audio outputs dont matter.

I am new to this - but the $130 Sony S370 units we bought plays discs perfectly and streams Netflix w.o. a problem. Discs load fast, and clicking on and playing movies from your Netflix que is fast and easy. As mentioned above - I am amazed at the quality of streamed Netflix movies.
The S370 does NOT have built in wifi. (We didn't need it - used ethernet connection in both places.) Wifi would add about $50 to the cost, as i recall.
I bought the first player fm. compusa down the road from us in Miami. The second one was ordered fm. Amazon as a direct seller. Same price.

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[*]Ability to attach a USB hard drive with video, audio or photos, played through the Oppo internals.[*]DLNA capable to accept media (video, music, etc) served from your laptop over your network to the Oppo, processed and displayed.
<... snip>
Just wanted to point out that a unit like the Oppo provides much more than just DVD-Audio and SACD

Is this true? I mean, I don't doubt your word, but this would give me pretty much everything I am currently looking for without upgrading my current receiver and/or buying an outboard audio streamer if it is accurate. I haven't jumped to BD yet (slow and steady wins the race??), but this would even take care of that. Is there anyone actually doing either or both of the above that can provide user experiences?
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Is this true? I mean, I don't doubt your word, but this would give me pretty much everything I am currently looking for without upgrading my current receiver and/or buying an outboard audio streamer if it is accurate. I haven't jumped to BD yet (slow and steady wins the race??), but this would even take care of that. Is there anyone actually doing either or both of the above that can provide user experiences?

Each OPPO model has a thread in this forum, and there is another one for DLNA. You can see what people are doing there.

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Is this true? I mean, I don't doubt your word, but this would give me pretty much everything I am currently looking for without upgrading my current receiver and/or buying an outboard audio streamer if it is accurate. I haven't jumped to BD yet (slow and steady wins the race??), but this would even take care of that. Is there anyone actually doing either or both of the above that can provide user experiences?

Like Bill said, each Oppo model has a well populated thread, the BDP-93 for HDMI based systems, the BDP-95 for high end analog systems, a DLNA thread for connection over the network using DLNA, and the older model BDP-83 and even the BDP-80 (least expensive, but also gone now).
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Like Bill said, each Oppo model has a well populated thread,

OK, thanks - I'll check 'em out ...
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What is the least expensive, non 3-D machine that has netflix ability built in? Audio outputs dont matter.

Just about everyone's entry level player at around $100 does netflix. If you really want the absolute cheapest non-3D, get an older Insignia on ebay for around $40. I recently sold one of mine on there for $25. It had a very good Netflix interface.

For my money ($125), the panasonic 110 is the best bang for the buck right now (3D, DLNA, network share, Netflix subtitles, search and 5.1, youtube, vudu, amazon, pandora, etc.). I don't have a 3D set either, so I sold the Avatar 3D disc that came with the player for $110, making the net cost of my player $15. So if you can live with 3D in the specs, that's really the cheapest option.
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