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The Sony seemed to get bad remarks from Secrets review. The panny 210 got better reviews but people seem to be complaining about Netflix on it.
Sony BDP-S580 3D Blu-ray Player

Panny 210

Just as a headsup ... if you scroll down to the bottom of the review, in the comments section, you will find out that they messed up the testing and was testing the player in a previous set mode ... causing the issues. The s580 doesn't infact have any color or luma issues.

The 1gb storage can be rectified by spending $5 and putting a usb thumb drive in the back of the unit.

There is a favorites option to select your favorite VOD service and you can access them quickly now.

There is nothing wrong with the remote, nor the player being noisy.

The resume function works with Netflix.

Load times are fast and as far as construction .. I think there is only so much you can expect for $100.
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Just wanted to say my 580 is noisy and sometimes it ticks like a clock, only an issue on low volume parts but not keen though.

Had it not been so cheap to buy i would have taken it back but when you look at what you get its fair value.

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Just as a headsup ... if you scroll down to the bottom of the review, in the comments section, you will find out that they messed up the testing and was testing the player in a previous set mode ... causing the issues. The s580 doesn't infact have any color or luma issues.

The 1gb storage can be rectified by spending $5 and putting a usb thumb drive in the back of the unit.

There is a favorites option to select your favorite VOD service and you can access them quickly now.

There is nothing wrong with the remote, nor the player being noisy.

The resume function works with Netflix.

Load times are fast and as far as construction .. I think there is only so much you can expect for $100.

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Hi Guys :

I currently have a Sony BDP-S350 Blu ray player, connected to an Elite VSX-52 receiver connecterd to an Elite plasma display.

The Sony is very slow loading Blu Ray content. PQ is ok. I think ?

I am considering the OPPO -93 (Was thiking about Elite BDP-43 but read bad reviews and stellar reviews about Oppo.)

My Elite receiver has a Marvell processor in it, which helps with PQ now. The Oppo does as well.

Question 1 Will I see improved PQ playing the same source material on OPPO Vs. Sony

Question 2 Is there a better player than the Oppo -93 in the $500/ $600(or less) price range.

I have a good colection of SD DVD's as well as BLU RAYS. and am thinking about 3-D. I also stream Netfix thru a Sony Streaming player at the moment.

Any comments or info would be appreciated. Even if you say don't bother with upgrade. etc

Thanks
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Hi Guys :

I currently have a Sony BDP-S350 Blu ray player, connected to an Elite VSX-52 receiver connecterd to an Elite plasma display.

The Sony is very slow loading Blu Ray content. PQ is ok. I think ?

I am considering the OPPO -93 (Was thiking about Elite BDP-43 but read bad reviews and stellar reviews about Oppo.)

My Elite receiver has a Marvell processor in it, which helps with PQ now. The Oppo does as well.

Question 1 Will I see improved PQ playing the same source material on OPPO Vs. Sony

Question 2 Is there a better player than the Oppo -93 in the $500/ $600(or less) price range.

I have a good colection of SD DVD's as well as BLU RAYS. and am thinking about 3-D. I also stream Netfix thru a Sony Streaming player at the moment.

Any comments or info would be appreciated. Even if you say don't bother with upgrade. etc

Thanks

Does anyone know when the Elite BDP-LX55 will be released. That is the other BDP that I may be interested in ?
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I would like a basic BR that plays content like WDLIVE to integrate BR and that device into one function. AVI DIVX and MKV support over wired network is preffered.

What is the current entry level model which supports this?
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I would like a basic BR that plays content like WDLIVE to integrate BR and that device into one function. AVI DIVX and MKV support over wired network is preffered.

What is the current entry level model which supports this?

Good bets would be the Sony S580, which you can get for about $110 if you look around. It has better support than most for DLNA. Solid bluray player, and DVD upscale. Excellent support for VOD streaming services, but you need to overcome the shortcomings in the Sony user interface on those services, if that's important.

Note though that the Sony seems to support Xvid native, but for divx youre DLNA media server would need to transcode before sending to the S580. iSedora for mac is able to do this.
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Hello AVS Blu-Ray Forum Gurus,

First, a little back story...
After 4 years of tears, choice words and great frustration my Samsung Blu-ray player has finally given up for good. I had originally purchased a BD-P1400 back in 2007 and it failed spectacularly within 14 months. 2 months of back and forth with Samsung support yielded a replacement BD-P1600 and about 5 years off my lifespan. The '1600 had been passable up until this last weekend when it simpy stopped responding. I've never been more DONE with a manufacturer product line as I am with Samsung disc-based products.

I'm not in the market for a replacement Blu-ray player OR equivalent PC-based system. My requirements are as follows:
  • play Blu-ray discs
  • stream local MP3 & FLAC media content from a QNAP TS-219P NAS (important!)
  • CD playback

Optionally I'd like to:
  • try out some DVD-A and SACD content

Other Equipment
I have a Roku XDS that I use for Netflix, Pandora, Amazon video, and a pile of other apps/channels that I actually use pretty regularly. The Roku doesn't have DLNA capabilities and I can't be asked to plug in a thumbdrive for music playback when I have a 1.5TB archive of the stuff sitting in a NAS.

I also have:
Onkyo TX-SR875 Receiver
Pioneer Kuro KRP-600M PDP monitor

My #1 candidate for a standalone Blu-ray player is the Oppo BDP-93 which I believe would satisfy all my requirements above, including the optional ones, so long as I can get a DNLA media server up and running on my NAS. I like the idea of an "everything just works" standalone

My question is whether I should go the standalone route with the Oppo or consider putting together a Media PC with Blu-ray drive and software. I know that a PC would give me easy access to all of the NAS media shares and have the bonus of allowing web browsing from the couch if I had such an inclination.

The question is whether I can get to Oppo BDP-93 performance levels with a Media PC or if I should just go with the best standalone player for the money? Is there another standalone player I should be considering? I would only consider a brand that has a solid track record for firmware support as my experience with Samsung is almost unmentionable.

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My trusty Oppo is acting finicky. The disc drawer won't open unless I tap it while holding the eject button or put slight weight on the top of the player at the front by the drawer. It could just be an adjustment but this happened on my PC and I had to replace the unit.

That said I just did a ton of research into amps, etc and am burnt out. So I'm hoping you folks can enlighten me as to whether Oppo is still the best Blu-Ray player out there or if Denon, Panasonic or others have caught up. SACD/DVD-Audio support is nice; I have a few but not a deal breaker.

Thanks!
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If you like your Oppo, I suggest contacting Oppo to repair it. From what I've read, they do it quick, and much cheaper than buying a new unit.
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Thanks. I plan on calling Oppo in the morning but am still interested in learning more about the Blu-Ray market. For example the 83 is pretty slow at loading, etc.
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Oppo has fixed lots of these problems with the disk loader for free, even after the unit was well out of warranty.

Slow loading of Blu-Ray discs is usually more the result of how the disc was authored than anything the 83 does. BTW, have you ever updated the firmware?

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My trusty Oppo is acting finicky. The disc drawer won't open unless I tap it while holding the eject button or put slight weight on the top of the player at the front by the drawer. It could just be an adjustment but this happened on my PC and I had to replace the unit.

Thanks!

This is an easy fix, and Oppo may not charge you for it at all. However, one work-around is to just leave a disc in the tray all the time. (it will always open when a disc is in there).

If you don't want to bother getting it fixed, send it to me.
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Thanks Guys. I see the admins expect mew to read thorugh 437 pages like a person has nothing better to do in a struggling economy.
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This is an easy fix, and Oppo may not charge you for it at all. However, one work-around is to just leave a disc in the tray all the time. (it will always open when a disc is in there).

If you don't want to bother getting it fixed, send it to me.

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Oppo has fixed lots of these problems with the disk loader for free, even after the unit was well out of warranty.

Slow loading of Blu-Ray discs is usually more the result of how the disc was authored than anything the 83 does. BTW, have you ever updated the firmware?

Thanks! I'll check the firmware. I think it's up to date but not sure.
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Thanks Guys. I see the admins expect mew to read thorugh 437 pages like a person has nothing better to do in a struggling economy.

No, you would typically start at the most recent post and work backwards for a few pages, until you simply can't take it any more.

Or, try a thread search.

If you can't find an answer then post a question in this topic.

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I'm in the market for my first BD player. I'm an HTPC guy, but I find myself renting much more than buying lately and the ease of a stand-alone player is calling my name. Also, despite numerous HTPC tweaks, I've always wondered if a separate player would give me a better picture than PC software players.

Anyway, here's what I'm looking for:

- excellent PQ
- bitstream all audio codecs
- great upscale for SD content
- great audio quality for CDs

Here's what I don't need:

- 3D
- apps
- stream movies/music from network
- play burned discs

Budget is probably sub $200. Even though I'm sure the Oppo is fantastic, I don't want to spend that kind of money. Any suggestions?
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No, you would typically start at the most recent post and work backwards for a few pages, until you simply can't take it any more.

Or, try a thread search.

If you can't find an answer then post a question in this topic.

I understand that. The fact remains that I have posted questions in numerous threads only to have my posts skipped over ratther than being a catalyst for specific and granular discussion germane to my needs. You know that happens. Already another person has posted a question they need answered. The thread will now go in that direction. No problem. Just not convenient for the community you folks need in place in order to sell advertising.

Now Google analytics may be telling you that people are sticking to the site and you think its due to the fact that they have to search everything but Google doesn't tell you about degradation of brand equity and banner blindness.

As a person who's comapny has managed marketing for Tiger Direct and other name brands I know a couple of things about the benefits of keeping your customrs, audience, community happy by making a visit to a site an effortless and positive experience.

Thanks for your help.
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I've got an '83, no problems at all so far, I have it connected by network, so the updates come in regularly, which is awesome, since they usually nail any disc problems before I get them. I remember early on, there was a firmware update that dealt with the disc drawer eject, so updating the firmware might do the job.

As others have mentioned, Oppo is incredible in support, even fixing units long past the warranty is out for known problems. Otherwise, their fee is really low for the work done, and they have very quick turn around. This is where you cash in on part of what you paid for the unit.

Otherwise, get a 93. I am on the verge of buying one and moving my trusty 83 to the bedroom.
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I'm in the market for my first BD player. I'm an HTPC guy, but I find myself renting much more than buying lately and the ease of a stand-alone player is calling my name. Also, despite numerous HTPC tweaks, I've always wondered if a separate player would give me a better picture than PC software players.

Anyway, here's what I'm looking for:

- excellent PQ
- bitstream all audio codecs
- great upscale for SD content
- great audio quality for CDs

Here's what I don't need:

- 3D
- apps
- stream movies/music from network
- play burned discs

Budget is probably sub $200. Even though I'm sure the Oppo is fantastic, I don't want to spend that kind of money. Any suggestions?

You might consider the new X20 line from Panasonic. They also have the BDT77/87 which doesn't have 3D playback.

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Better than the Oppo?
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Better than the Oppo?

no.. oppo is still the king.

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Is there list somehere that lists of all current BD players that can play 1080i/50 and PAL DVD? It doesn't have to be a region free player. I just want to be able to play my region-free discs (concerts) I bought from UK just in case my BDP-HD1/BDP-320 and BDP-LX55 bite the dust.

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Question 2 Is there a better player than the Oppo -93 in the $500/ $600(or less) price range.

I have a good colection of SD DVD's as well as BLU RAYS. and am thinking about 3-D. I also stream Netfix thru a Sony Streaming player at the moment.

Any comments or info would be appreciated. Even if you say don't bother with upgrade. etc

Thanks

I had a Oppo 93 for 1 month. I do not get all this Oppo hoop-a-laa. I returned and am trying out Samsung and Panasonic. But, I am waiting for the HDI Dune pro to come out soon.
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My trusty Oppo is acting finicky. The disc drawer won't open unless I tap it while holding the eject button or put slight weight on the top of the player at the front by the drawer. It could just be an adjustment but this happened on my PC and I had to replace the unit.

That said I just did a ton of research into amps, etc and am burnt out. So I'm hoping you folks can enlighten me as to whether Oppo is still the best Blu-Ray player out there or if Denon, Panasonic or others have caught up. SACD/DVD-Audio support is nice; I have a few but not a deal breaker.

Thanks!

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I had a Oppo 93 for 1 month. I do not get all this Oppo hoop-a-laa. I returned and am trying out Samsung and Panasonic. But, I am waiting for the HDI Dune pro to come out soon.

Well, isn't that system coming in at $2000 or more? (2-3K Euros?) The Oppo hoop-a-laa is for the value from the different Oppos, the reliability of the unit and its great capabilities. As well as killer customer support.

The HDI Pro also has the Cinavia DRM embedded within it, with all of the limitations that implies. So far, given the current models, the only tangible difference is the ability to dock hard drives within the HDI as opposed to the connection by USB port with the Oppo.

There is one ability that the HDI Pro has which is great, and which I'm hoping Oppo will add to either the current or next models, which is the ability to mount SMB / NTFS / UPnP volumes. That would make things very nice as far as network access. Otherwise, the Oppo 93 provides the same media access and support, with possibly (didn't see this on the HDI site) SACD and DVD-A in addition (I have a good number of those, so it's valuable to me).

Price / Performance, I'd take the Oppo, and would put the Oppo up against the HDI strictly on performance. It's a gamble, since I haven't seen the HDI, but hey - The Oppo 83 I have has been the most solid piece of electronics I've had.
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Would I notice the audio benifits of the oppo 95 (versus the 93) with my older 5.1 system.

Receiver: B & K AVR 307
Fronts and Center: Sonus Faber Concerto
Sub: Rel B3
Rears: NHT 6.2 In-wall

I will be connecting the player thru the 5.1 analog inputs on the Receiver.
It has been many years since I have upgraded a component so any advice would be appreciated. My gut feeling is that my equipment is more on the level of the oppo 93.

Thanks
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You might consider the new X20 line from Panasonic. They also have the BDT77/87 which doesn't have 3D playback.

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I looked up the X20 -- isn't that a tv?
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no, he means BDT 220, BDT 320

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i need a small 32 to 42 tv and blu ray player. but i need wifi so i can stream netflix. dont want 3d. im just not sure if i want the tv or blu ray player to have the wifi for netflix. so im looking for suggestions.
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