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Thanks Bill, That simplifies things quite a bit.

Any opinions of the Marantz vs. Oppo from my post, or any other outstanding players that are cheaper?

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No, OPPO takes up all my time and I don't keep up with the other lines. If you scan the last few pages here you'll see strong recommendations for other players.

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I am looking for a new Blu-Ray player and I am getting confused on what I need.

My Sony XBR Hx 929 is arriving today. I have a 3 year old Onkyo 7.1 Channel receiver that is running a 6.1 speaker set up. The Onkyo has pass through 1080p with HDMI hook ups.

My current Blu-Ray is a Sylivania made when HD-DVDs were still being made. So no internet connections or wi-fi.

I want a Blu-Ray that does my TV HX 929 justice. I am thinking about a Sony BDPS590 or BDPS790 and wanted some opinions before I purchased. Also, I can't find any BDPS790 in any store.

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We have a Calibration forum here. At the basic level (which is all I do) you get a test disc and learn to adjust your display by looking at the patterns.

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Thanks. My Sammy (the 46" 7000) has a few calibration patterns, color, and B&W. I have not gotten there yet.
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I have a 2-channel stereo/home theater set-up with B&W 685 speakers, a Rotel RX-1052 receiver (2-channel, no digital inputs), and a Panasonic TCP46G10 plasma.

My old Samsung Blu-ray player recently died. I had been using it for audio CDs as well as DVDs and Blu-rays.

What do you recommend for a replacement player that has good analog audio quality? Is the Oppo 95 the way to go? Or is it overkill for my current set-up? Or maybe is there some in-between territory between a $1000 Oppo 95 and the usual $129 players that aren't so great for playing CD's through an analog stereo out?

I have a similar set-up. My answer is that it depends. If you criitically listen to music (CDs, SACDs, DVD-A's), then you can't do better than the 95. You can also save money by going with the Oppo 93, which is no slouch either for music. If you don't listen critically to music (i.e., you put CDs on in the background), then you can save more money and go with something like the Sony 590. I'd shy away from the Panny 220. I have the 110, and the analog audio outputs are disabled when outputting 24p video over HDMI. I don't know if that's the case with the 220 as well, but why take the chance. For the same $, you can get the Sony, which is more flexible for data files and has a better UI for Netflix streaming (and plays SACDs).
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Just purchased a Pioneer Elite SVX-40 receiver, so I was looking for a Pioneer Blu Ray player. This is my first one. I know not all blu ray players dont play blu rays the same but came across Pioneer Elite BDP-31FD for $109 which seemed like a solid deal. I know you get what you pay for, but if I spend $300 on a blu ray player, will I really notice the difference and hear the difference?
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CtrlAltElite, Looks like last year's model. Reviews state slow to load. I'd go for a 2012 model. You don't have to pay $300. Check out the Panny 220 and the Sony 390 (non-3D) and 590 (3D).
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CtrlAltElite, Looks like last year's model. Reviews state slow to load. I'd go for a 2012 model. You don't have to pay $300. Check out the Panny 220 and the Sony 390 (non-3D) and 590 (3D).

Would you say the Panny 220 is a better player than Samsung B5500c
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There was something about the Panasonic and the Sony that caused me not to buy them because their wireless support was not great. Something to do with their inglourious antenna for wifi. I ended up with a Samsung for the same price on Tiger Direct with better wifi reviews by a mile
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Would you say the Panny 220 is a better player than Samsung B5500c

The 220 won the CNET 2012 BluRay player of the year (although they had not yet tested the 590). I cannot recommend any Samsung player due to poor reliability, IMO. Look through the 220 and 590 threads for details on them. I am quite happy with my 110, although I had to buy a digital-to-analog adapter for audio due to the issue I mentioned in a post above (analog audio outputs are disabled when outputting 24p video over HDMI -- not an issue if you don't use analog audio outs).

The Samsung you mention also looks like a 2011 model. Features and speed improve year-to-year, so I would only get a 2012 model.
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I hate my Vizio 120, where do i go from here. It locks up, it takes forever to load.... Once playing i guess the picture is ok, but i think i could do better

Yes, i did do firmware and have to reboot the firmware time to time...

Wireless wifi would be a nice addition.... Most important is its ability to play BR :0)
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I currently have a Samsung BDC5500 which works perfectly well EXCEPT...
it does not support DTS-MA/TrueHD or FLAC via DLNA. Otherwise the DLNA works flawlessly using Mezzmo server.

ANY players that provide this codec support? I use MKV container and h264 codec for video [VC1 support not important]. Really don't care about the BluRay performance or transport. All of my videos are recoded to h264 720p, muxed and served from a NAS.

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I currently have a Samsung BDC5500 which works perfectly well EXCEPT...
it does not support DTS-MA/TrueHD or FLAC via DLNA. Otherwise the DLNA works flawlessly using Mezzmo server.

ANY players that provide this codec support? I use MKV container and h264 codec for video [VC1 support not important]. Really don't care about the BluRay performance or transport. All of my videos are recoded to h264 720p, muxed and served from a NAS.

Kurt

You might try the Media Server forum: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forum...aysprune=&f=39

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do the br models selling for around $100 automatically connect to your home's wifi or do you have to buy a separate adapter for it to connect?

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http://shop.panasonic.com/compare/?i...Nbr=DMP-BDT500

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ompareProducts

I need 3D, NTFS/USB support which all the above models are providing. Only difference factor was - Which ever player supports playing more formats for Video (USB and across the network via DLNA) wins the case for me. Keeping this in mind, should i go with Sony or Panasonic? Feedback are welcome
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do the br models selling for around $100 automatically connect to your home's wifi or do you have to buy a separate adapter for it to connect?

If the specs say wifi (not wifi ready), you don't need an adapter.
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http://shop.panasonic.com/compare/?i...Nbr=DMP-BDT500

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ompareProducts

I need 3D, NTFS/USB support which all the above models are providing. Only difference factor was - Which ever player supports playing more formats for Video (USB and across the network via DLNA) wins the case for me. Keeping this in mind, should i go with Sony or Panasonic? Feedback are welcome

Sony supports a lot more file formats than Panny with the exception of FLAC. Panny has that, and Sony doesn't.
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I hate my Vizio 120, where do i go from here. It locks up, it takes forever to load.... Once playing i guess the picture is ok, but i think i could do better

Yes, i did do firmware and have to reboot the firmware time to time...

Wireless wifi would be a nice addition.... Most important is its ability to play BR :0)

price range?

i would never recommend vizio... we have displays running on vizio players and displays running on sony... ALL the vizio players have crapped out but one and it has a few quirks... sony players only issue i'm running into is sometimes the S570 we have running will not respond to the remote until the player is rebooted
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price range?

i would never recommend vizio... we have displays running on vizio players and displays running on sony... ALL the vizio players have crapped out but one and it has a few quirks... sony players only issue i'm running into is sometimes the S570 we have running will not respond to the remote until the player is rebooted

I know it's not alot, but $300.00 is about it. My PJ is a Mits 4000 and i use a CAVX dual prism lens CIH....Screen is 100X42 AT SMX.....
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Sony 590 vs panasonic 220

who to pick
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Sony 590 vs panasonic 220

who to pick

Panasonic 220. I have owned multiple BD players and the 3 different Panasonic players I had are IMO the best value. I currently have an Oppo 93 in my HT for my Pioneer 141 & I am going to get a 220 for the 50" Kuro in my Master Bedroom.
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If an upconverting blu ray player (e.g., oppo 93) automatically does the upconvert, why would AV receivers (e.g., Denon 3312), have their own upconversion? Is it meant only for people who do not have an upconverting player?
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If an upconverting blu ray player (e.g., oppo 93) automatically does the upconvert, why would AV receivers (e.g., Denon 3312), have their own upconversion? Is it meant only for people who do not have an upconverting player?

Features sell products. It doesn't matter if they are redundant. If the competition has feature X then everyone has to have it, else people who shop by checklist won't consider them.

One benefit: if deinterlacing and scaling can be done in each of the player, receiver and display, you at least have your choice in case one of the products is broken as designed, which does happen.

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post #13339..... um, this is the , " Help me find a BR player " isnt it ?

thanx guys......
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Sony 590 vs panasonic 220

who to pick

Another vote for the 220. I bought 2 and very happy with them so far. One is for my 82" MITS DLP and the other for my bedroom Panny 55" ST30
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Sony 590 vs panasonic 220

who to pick

Really hard to say if you have no requirements.

Panny is faster loading discs, but stinks at DLNA and has a lot fewer streaming apps. In terms of the most features and apps and file streaming, sony wins. In terms of speed, panny wins. Sony even has a basic web browser. If you don't need 3D, sony has a cheaper model without that, but panny doesn't.
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Has anybody tested whether the Panny 220 or Sony 590 disable the analog audio outs when 24p is enabled over HDMI? That happens on the 110/210/310, and I was wondering whether that has changed with this year's model (I asked in the 220 thread, but nobody answered).
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Has anybody tested whether the Panny 220 or Sony 590 disable the analog audio outs when 24p is enabled over HDMI? That happens on the 110/210/310, and I was wondering whether that has changed with this year's model (I asked in the 220 thread, but nobody answered).

I might test the sony at some point. But I have to ask who still uses 2 ch analog audio with blu-ray, and what would posses them to do such a thing?
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I might test the sony at some point. But I have to ask who still uses 2 ch analog audio with blu-ray, and what would posses them to do such a thing?

I only have a 2-channel amp and pre-amp (I care more about critical listening with CDs than movies). Others have posted similarly, so I'm not the only one.
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So, $250 is my price point. I might stream some movies here and there, but i like to rent redbox, its easy.

It need to be CIH friendly as i have a 2.35:1 screen. My current BR player is a Vizio and i hate it. Its Waaaaaaaay to slow, it locks up and i cant get the drawer open half the time while its clicking and whirrring away Lol.

PLEASE recommend some thing...........
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So, $250 is my price point. I might stream some movies here and there, but i like to rent redbox, its easy.

It need to be CIH friendly as i have a 2.35:1 screen. My current BR player is a Vizio and i hate it. Its Waaaaaaaay to slow, it locks up and i cant get the drawer open half the time while its clicking and whirrring away Lol.

PLEASE recommend some thing...........

CIH friendly: you mean anamorphic stretch and shiftable subtitles? I don't think you can do that for $250; maybe one of the older OPPOs, used, if you could find a deal. The current models start at $499.

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