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Looking at getting a dedicated 3D Blu Ray player instead of using my old Fat PS3.

Got Best Buy reward points and a gift card, so this is what I see they have currently, based on what I have read it seems like Sony and Panasonic are the best main-stream units.

Which of these is the best?
Sony BDPS5200 is on sale for $103
Panasonic DMP-BDT360 is $130
Panasonic DMP-BDT330 is on closeout for $130(down from $190)

I don't need 4K upscaling. I don't need dual hdmi outputs. I will be sending signal into my Yamaha RX-V673 which can decode all HD signals. Is there any reason to look at the Sony 6200 or the Panasonic 460?

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Looking at getting a dedicated 3D Blu Ray player instead of using my old Fat PS3.

Got Best Buy reward points and a gift card, so this is what I see they have currently, based on what I have read it seems like Sony and Panasonic are the best main-stream units.

Which of these is the best?
Sony BDPS5200 is on sale for $103
Panasonic DMP-BDT360 is $130
Panasonic DMP-BDT330 is on closeout for $130(down from $190)

I don't need 4K upscaling. I don't need dual hdmi outputs. I will be sending signal into my Yamaha RX-V673 which can decode all HD signals. Is there any reason to look at the Sony 6200 or the Panasonic 460?

Thanks
BD & 3D - tie
streaming - Sony although I hear some issues with Netflix
DVD upconversion - Panasonic
DLNA - Sony

Moving up to Sony 6200 gets you excellent DVD upconversion (or so I hear).

But if you only care about BD and 3D performance then get the one that catches your fancy. They're pretty much same.
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My daughter lost the remote for my Micca Player, so, I am now in the market for a BluRay\DLNA player to replace my PS3, Roku and Micca players with one box.

Important...
  • DLNA compatibility with a broad range of file types.
  • Excellent 2D Blu Ray.
  • Excellent Audio Quality (my Micca sux)
  • Intuitive Operation.
Not Important...
  • 3D
  • 4K
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My daughter lost the remote for my Micca Player, so, I am now in the market for a BluRay\DLNA player to replace my PS3, Roku and Micca players with one box.

Important...
  • DLNA compatibility with a broad range of file types.
  • Excellent 2D Blu Ray.
  • Excellent Audio Quality (my Micca sux)
  • Intuitive Operation.
Not Important...
  • 3D
  • 4K
You can probably get a replacement remote.

Otherwise: do you have a price range for a new player?

Are you in the US? If not, where?

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You can probably get a replacement remote.

Otherwise: do you have a price range for a new player?

Are you in the US? If not, where?

-Bill
I am in the US. I was hoping to find something in the less than $150
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My daughter lost the remote for my Micca Player, so, I am now in the market for a BluRay\DLNA player to replace my PS3, Roku and Micca players with one box.

Important...
  • DLNA compatibility with a broad range of file types.
  • Excellent 2D Blu Ray.
  • Excellent Audio Quality (my Micca sux)
  • Intuitive Operation.
Not Important...
  • 3D
  • 4K
I would suggest you look at the Sony players such as the BDP-S5200. They have a reputation for good DLNA and overall reliability which is hard to beat in that price range. However, you should clarify your 'Audio Quality' criteria. Are you using HDMI to output your audio?

When using HDMI, audio will either be bitstreamed or decoded by the player. If all the audio channels arrive at their destination and you don't have the player applying processing (such as dynamic range controls) you should get identical 'sound quality' when comparing players. Unless you are using analog, you should not expect changing your player to impact audio quality at all. If you need analog outputs you should specify that and number of channels; most current players do not have analog outputs.
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I bought a Samsung BD-F5900 last year, and it had TOSLINK Optical audio output. I was looking recently at replacing another older blu-ray player and I see now that on the new Samsung BD-H5900 they replaced the TOSLINK with Coaxial digital audio. I looked at ALL of the entry level blu-ray players (regular price $99-$130) and NONE of them appear to have TOSLINK Optical audio any longer. You have to step up to the 4k upscaling ones that are in the $150-$200 range.

Has anyone else noticed this too? Considering through last year EVERYONE had TOSLINK on their entry-mid range offerings, it's pretty dumb that all the sudden they stopped including it as an option. It's not like the cost of a TOSLINK port would be much different than a Coaxial port.

Are there any $99-$130 blu ray players that still offer TOSLINK/Optical?
If you use a AV Receiver i'm pretty sure it has optical and digital coax inputs. Now you'd have a reason to use the coax inputs. the sound is the same as optical.

I don't see this as a big deal unless one has a soundbar that only take optical inputs.

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Hi guys,

the LG 740 is much more better of the 730? From details seems the same, but the cost is much much more

thanks
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blu-ray player HDMI in Analog audio out

I need a recommendation on an inexpensive Blu-ray player with HDMI input and analog RCA right left audio output to run through a two channel system.

I want to steam through a laptop.

What you got back home, little sister, to play your fuzzy warbles on? I bet you got little save pitiful, portable picnic players. Come with uncle and hear all proper! Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones. You are invited.
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The cheapest one I'm aware of is the Oppo BDP-103 at $499. I own one and I think it's bargain for all the features it has.
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have you thought about just putting an internal BD drive into your laptop?
you would still need software to play blu ray movies but its also only 49 bucks .


http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-UJ24...blu+ray+player

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The cheapest one I'm aware of is the Oppo BDP-103 at $499. I own one and I think it's bargain for all the features it has.
yes, this one is pretty good (i have it in a different system)but i am looking for one cheaper if possible.

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Need a Great PQ NAS DLNA player

In search of a new BD player. My current Samsung BD-C6500 is going south. The video display (TV) is a Samsung UNC-55C8000XF, the audio receiver is a Yamaha HTR-5140 (yup - upgrading it soon too).
We are creating a Digital Video Library of all our DVD's and BR's (1000+).
Reading back a few hundred posts I could not find a current, good answer.

So here are the requirements:
  1. DLNA via hard wired ethernet (not WiFi) NAS
  2. can read from Linux (ubuntu) DLNA server
  3. MKV, AVCHD files supported
  4. better-best audio/video quality
  5. audio 5.1, 7.1, …, separate output (coax/ToS)
  6. basic video conversion in case display (TV, projector, …) can't
  7. stackable, nothing on the top surface
the don't cares:
  1. WiFi
  2. internet streaming (this device will NOT connect to the internet)
  3. up converting
  4. extensive network file navigation (only reading one file)
and the unacceptable:
  1. anything Microsoft

The Oppo BD-P103 is a great fit but don't need all it's features or the extra $$.

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yes, this one is pretty good (i have it in a different system)but i am looking for one cheaper if possible.
The suggestion of a bluray drive either through USB or in the laptop seems good, since you're ultimately going to display through it.

I have two oppos and an Alienware with a bluray drive, all three perform well.
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yes, this one is pretty good (i have it in a different system)but i am looking for one cheaper if possible.
Sorry, but I don't think you'll find a stand-alone BluRay player for less with an HDMI input.
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Sorry, but I don't think you'll find a stand-alone BluRay player for less with an HDMI input.
ok thanks

how about a aVR then that has stereo analogue output ? Not too expensive.

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Most BD players have at least optical or coax audio outputs. Adding cheap coax/optical to RCA converter will accomplish your goal without needing to buy a new AVR or expensive BD player.

Have you considered other way to display content from a laptop, like a direct cable connection, Chromecast or DLNA?
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Well, I'm back to this thread after I found out that the player I decided on (Panasonic BDT360) displays pop-up ads. That is *absolutely* unacceptable - what in the world is Panasonic thinking??

Anyway, here's my original post...I'm basically looking for a player that can decode DD+ and DTS HD and send it as LPCM to an older receiver that can't accept blu-ray bitstream audio formats (Denon 2307ci)

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I'm having a hard time trying to find a blu-ray player that will work as well as the PS3 does with my older receiver.

I have an older Denon receiver that will accept Dolby Digital and DTS bitstream over HDMI, but not Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS HD MA bitstream. Right now I have an older PS3 that decodes the HD DD and DTS formats and outputs them as 5.1/7.1 LPCM over HDMI, which my receiver *does* accept.

I am having a very difficult time finding a player that has onboard Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS HD MA decoding, which can then be sent to my receiver as 5.1/7.1 LPCM multi channel. Are there any new players that support this, or do I need to look at older models? I'd prefer something below $200 but if anyone has any suggestions above that, I welcome them as well.
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Well, I'm back to this thread after I found out that the player I decided on (Panasonic BDT360) displays pop-up ads. That is *absolutely* unacceptable - what in the world is Panasonic thinking??

Anyway, here's my original post...I'm basically looking for a player that can decode DD+ and DTS HD and send it as LPCM to an older receiver that can't accept blu-ray bitstream audio formats (Denon 2307ci)
Maybe if you can find one available, an older Sony (790?).

Otherwise, at double the budget you can get an Oppo 103.
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Blu-Ray Player with 7.1 out decision

Hello from Germany,

hopefully it's ok to start my own thread for my question.

I'm looking for a Blu-Ray Player with 7.1 analog out.
I like good stuff but I'm not somebody who can spend money
like some people here who spend more on a player then others
on a car. I also don't believe into snake oil and would not
spend 100$ on a RCA cable.

What I have is this:
CD: Pioneer PD-8500
DVD: Denon DVD-2930 / Denon DVD-3910
HD-DVD: Toshiba HD-XE1

And I narrowed the Blu-Ray choice down to:
Denon DBP-2012UD
Denon DBP-2010
DVD-3800BD
OPPO BDP-83
LG BD390
Samsung BD-F7500

I don't need 3D and the cheaper the better.
If there is one BR-Player that does something better then from
what i have and i can get rid of one of the old players it's ok.
If the new player is only for BR then it's also ok.

Would be nice to see how other would rang my Players for:
CD playback
SACD playback
DVD-Audio playback
DVD-Video upscaling

I don't know the US label for the Pioneer PD-8500 but it
has Burr-Brown PCM63P-J DACs (like Accuphase DC-91).

Thanks for help.
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Actually the mods will likely move your query to the Official Help Me Choose a Player sticky thread at the top of the page.
You list very old models, which will be very slow to load and may have problems playing new BluRay releases. Check out the Denon and Oppo websites to get information on the current models. Personally, I would stick with Oppo and Denon, but they will run you about US$500 for their entry level universal models.
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Yes they are not the newest except the Samsung.
And even used they are not what i would call cheap.

Euro converted to dollar:
Denon DBP-2012UD 380$
Denon DBP-2010 200-250$
DVD-3800BD 340-400$
OPPO BDP-83 340-400$
LG BD390 95$
Samsung BD-F7500 180$ (new)

A new Oppo or Denon with 7.1 is to expensive for me.
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Yes they are not the newest except the Samsung.
And even used they are not what i would call cheap.

Euro converted to dollar:
Denon DBP-2012UD 380$
Denon DBP-2010 200-250$
DVD-3800BD 340-400$
OPPO BDP-83 340-400$
LG BD390 95$
Samsung BD-F7500 180$ (new)

A new Oppo or Denon with 7.1 is to expensive for me.
I have an Oppo BDP-83 which I bought four years ago. It has performed flawlessly over that time and does all that you ask for, then some (network media play from NAS, etc).

For DVD upscaling the HD-DVD player you have would come close to or match the Oppo.

So you're left with the audio (CD, SACD, DVD-A). I've used the 83 in all of those both with analog 7.1 and with HDMI. It does the job very well.

Just my observations, and it's still going strong.
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Hi.

Does anyone has to suggest me a CHEAP 3d bluray player without the cinavia protection?

And if i buy one 3d bluray player with no cinavia protection and install it the latest firmware then it would add the cinavia protection?
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Does anyone has to suggest me a CHEAP 3d bluray player without the cinavia protection?
All current players have Cinavia. It is required by licensing.

Older players are available that do not have Cinavia.

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And if i buy one 3d bluray player with no cinavia protection and install it the latest firmware then it would add the cinavia protection?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Sony has done that, but OPPO has said their pre-103 models will not have Cinavia in new firmware.

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I just want to know some cheap 3d BLURAY models that doesn't support cinavia
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I just want to know some cheap 3d BLURAY models that doesn't support cinavia
State your price range, and confirm that you understand these will be used players.

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I have an Oppo BDP-83 which I bought four years ago. It has performed flawlessly over that time and does all that you ask for, then some (network media play from NAS, etc).

For DVD upscaling the HD-DVD player you have would come close to or match the Oppo.

So you're left with the audio (CD, SACD, DVD-A). I've used the 83 in all of those both with analog 7.1 and with HDMI. It does the job very well.

Just my observations, and it's still going strong.
So the BDP-83 upscaling is as good as the HD-XE1 and DVD-2930
and CD/SACD/DVD-A as good as the 3910?
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Does anyone has to suggest me a CHEAP 3d bluray player without the cinavia protection?

And if i buy one 3d bluray player with no cinavia protection and install it the latest firmware then it would add the cinavia protection?
Panasonic DMP-BDT350 does not have Cinavia and has 7.1 analog outs. You'll have to hunt for one of these.


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So the BDP-83 upscaling is as good as the HD-XE1 and DVD-2930
and CD/SACD/DVD-A as good as the 3910?
I have a Toshiba HD-A35; I think the upscaling on the Oppo is slightly better than the A35 and to me that's saying something. So if the HD-XE1 is similar to the A35, I can tell you that for me, yes it is.

As far as the DVD-2930 vs. the BDP-83 on audio disk play, I haven't done a comparison - you'd have to search comparisons or hopefully someone chimes in who has done it. Suffice it to say that for me and in my system, it has done great with all three formats.
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