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Old 12-16-2014, 02:05 PM
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Hi all,


My Pioneer BDP-95FD just stopped playing blu-ray discs and it is no longer supported by Pioneer.


I am looking at either the Marantz UD 5007 or the Oppo BDP-103. I have done a ton of research but I wanted to know if you all have any suggestions?


Thanks in advance !!!


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This one's easy. The Oppo 103D (same 599 price as the Marantz).

Some of the extras you get:

-4K upscaling instead of 1080p
-2 HDMI inputs to use the Oppo's video processing for your other components. The Marantz has no inputs.
-Digital SPDIF outputs. The Marantz has no coax or fiber.
-RS232 control (for those who need it)
- Reference quality video.
- so on...

-Extra file formats supported:
Marantz - AVCHD / DivX HD / DivX6 / DivX Ultra / DivX plus HD, Network Audio: MP3 / WMA / AAC / FLAC / WA, Network Video: MPEG / DivX / H.264 / WMV, Network static video (JPEG)

Oppo:
3GP,AAC (Advanced Audio Coding),AIFF (Audio Interchange File Format),ALAC (Apple Lossless),APE (Monkey's Audio),ASF (Advanced Systems Format),AVCHD,AVI (Audio Video Interleave),DFF and DSF (DSD: Direct Stream Digital files),DIVX Media Format,FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec),FLV (Flash Video),GIF,JPG,M2TS,(BDAV MPEG-2 Transport Stream),M4A (same as MP4),M4V (same as MP4),MKV (Matroska, both .mkv and .mka),MP3 (MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3),MP4,MPG (MPEG-1),MOV (Quicktime),MPO (Multi Picture Object),OGG,OGM,PNG,TS (Transport Stream),VOB (Video Object),WAV (up to 24 bit),WMA (Windows Media Audio) (not WMA Pro, Lossless or Voice),WMV (Windows Media Video)

Also, acting as a DLNA renderer, you get 192KHz PCM, and... well I could go on, but if you're spending that kind of money, get the Oppo.

And killer tech support.
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hernanu,


Thanks for the reply !


I am going to go for the Oppo - I have an Anthem D2 and a Pioneer Kuro 60" Plasma. Have you used both the 103 and the 103D?


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Hi all,


My Pioneer BDP-95FD just stopped playing blu-ray discs and it is no longer supported by Pioneer.


I am looking at either the Marantz UD 5007 or the Oppo BDP-103. I have done a ton of research but I wanted to know if you all have any suggestions?


Thanks in advance !!!


Andrew
I have the new bdp-85bd from Pioneer it's better then oppo 103D and if u want one even better bdp-88bd kicks oppo 105d from the throne
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Hi all,


My Pioneer BDP-95FD just stopped playing blu-ray discs and it is no longer supported by Pioneer.


I am looking at either the Marantz UD 5007 or the Oppo BDP-103. I have done a ton of research but I wanted to know if you all have any suggestions?


Thanks in advance !!!


Andrew
I have the new bdp-85bd from Pioneer it's better then oppo 103D and if u want one even better bdp-88bd kicks oppo 105d from the throne
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I need to recommend a Blu ray player to my father in law, who trusts me with such things.

He's not going to spring for an Oppo, unfortunately, else of course I'd put him with the 103. He's willing to spend more than bottom end stuff, however. He has a Sammy 4K TV, and a brand new high end Yamaha AVR. All connections will be straightforward HDMI. 3D is a mandatory feature.

Is there anything out there better than the $150 Sony 6200? The $250 7200 seems to have way too many odd issues for relatively minimal gain. I'm just wondering if there is anything else between the two that's worth considering, or perhaps I should just have him stick with the 6200 for now? (especially since 4K players are probably coming out within a year)
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I need to recommend a Blu ray player to my father in law, who trusts me with such things.

He's not going to spring for an Oppo, unfortunately, else of course I'd put him with the 103. He's willing to spend more than bottom end stuff, however. He has a Sammy 4K TV, and a brand new high end Yamaha AVR. All connections will be straightforward HDMI. 3D is a mandatory feature.

Is there anything out there better than the $150 Sony 6200? The $250 7200 seems to have way too many odd issues for relatively minimal gain. I'm just wondering if there is anything else between the two that's worth considering, or perhaps I should just have him stick with the 6200 for now? (especially since 4K players are probably coming out within a year)
So what unique features of the 6200 would he be using to justify it over the 5200? Does he have a big collection of SACDs?
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hernanu,


Thanks for the reply !


I am going to go for the Oppo - I have an Anthem D2 and a Pioneer Kuro 60" Plasma. Have you used both the 103 and the 103D?


Andrew
I've only used the 103D and have an older BDP-83.

There are differences between the 103 and 103D. If you go to the 103 or 103D thread, there's a list of the differences.

Basically the 103D is the same as the 103, but dropped the QDeo for what I think is a better VRS chip. It also includes the Darbee technology (which I wanted), and has been updated to run DSD music over both HDMI outputs instead of the 103's HDMI2.

Otherwise, it's pretty much the same. The Kuro will look great with this as input (IMO), you'll have reference through your video chain. The Pioneer player you had was excellent, this will keep up with it and add the extra features.
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I currently have a SONY BDP S570, connected to an Onkyo TX-SR608 and Panasonic PT AE4000. I am having problems with the Sony, such as slow streaming (even when connected by ethernet) and pausing during movies for a few seconds. I would like to purchase a new BLU Ray player, spending around 100 bucks or so. 3D is not important to me. I do use the USB input to play movies all the time, so good compatibility with different format and large size video files is important. Any recommendations on a player which may be considered an "upgrade" to the Sony BDP S570 would be greatly appreciated.

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I currently have a SONY BDP S570, connected to an Onkyo TX-SR608 and Panasonic PT AE4000. I am having problems with the Sony, such as slow streaming (even when connected by ethernet) and pausing during movies for a few seconds. I would like to purchase a new BLU Ray player, spending around 100 bucks or so. 3D is not important to me. I do use the USB input to play movies all the time, so good compatibility with different format and large size video files is important. Any recommendations on a player which may be considered an "upgrade" to the Sony BDP S570 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
There are several good suggestions to be had depending on what file formats you use from USB (for compatibility).

As to the problem with streaming, things other than the player come into play.

  1. The server - if a server (say Netflix) is overloaded, that can scale down your streaming. Try different times of the day and see if the issues go down during "down" times: like morning.
  2. Your internet provider or connection - If you have a slower connection or your service plan is not up to the kind of connection. You can use your streaming app to let you know what kind of speeds it's achieving or can achieve.
  3. Your home network. You've hardwired it, so you're getting the best you can from the connection, but can your router handle this kind of traffic? What is your router?
I bring this up because I don't want you to get the same results from a new, more capable player because of the connection.
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There is definitely a streaming problem with this player. In addition, the only video files it will play are mp4s, and it doesn't like those if the file is too large i.e > 1.5 GB. Add the pausing and stuttering problem and I think it is time for a new player. Thanks!
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So what unique features of the 6200 would he be using to justify it over the 5200? Does he have a big collection of SACDs?
Considering the relatively small price premium, the dual core processor in the 6200 seem well worth the small extra amount, over the single core 5200. You can never have a player that's too fast or has too much processing power. Just as one example. Also, 4K upscaling features may come in handy, since he has a 4K TV.

I'm looking for better than the 6200, just not up to the Oppo levels. I just don't know if there is anything legitimately in that category.
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There is definitely a streaming problem with this player. In addition, the only video files it will play are mp4s, and it doesn't like those if the file is too large i.e > 1.5 GB. Add the pausing and stuttering problem and I think it is time for a new player. Thanks!
If you're sure of it, then I'd check out the Sony players. My daughter uses her 590 almost exclusively for streaming and has had not problems. The BDPS5200 looks like it might fit what you want. It's priced the same as the 3D - less 3200.
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I have pretty much soured on the Sony players. What do you think about the Samsung BD-H6500?
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I have pretty much soured on the Sony players. What do you think about the Samsung BD-H6500?
I'd check on their owner threads, but they may have reliability problems. Panasonic players have a good reputation, The Panasonic BD91 might fit the bill.
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I'd check on their owner threads, but they may have reliability problems. Panasonic players have a good reputation, The Panasonic BD91 might fit the bill.
Unfortunately, Panny has virtually no file playback capability.

LG then?
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So what unique features of the 6200 would he be using to justify it over the 5200? Does he have a big collection of SACDs?
Considering the relatively small price premium, the dual core processor in the 6200 seem well worth the small extra amount, over the single core 5200. You can never have a player that's too fast or has too much processing power. Just as one example. Also, 4K upscaling features may come in handy, since he has a 4K TV.

I'm looking for better than the 6200, just not up to the Oppo levels. I just don't know if there is anything legitimately in that category.

Panasonic dmp-bdt700 almost an oppo picture.
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I have pretty much soured on the Sony players. What do you think about the Samsung BD-H6500?
My BDD6100 was a POS. Never would even consider Samsung player again, it was that bad.

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Unfortunately, Panny has virtually no file playback capability.

LG then?
Maybeso. If they support the formats the OP is interested in, then you can live with that if the streaming is good.
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Panasonic dmp-bdt700 almost an oppo picture.
I believe that's a European only player, and is too expensive for the OP.

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What about one of the LG players, maybe the BP-730?
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Hey all,
MKV media player used mainly to play videos in the Matroska Video file format. However, this free MKV can also be used to play videos in all other formats. What’s new with the latest version? Besides from it being more portable, if you download this software you will be able to enjoy other functions like video scaling and it also now supports Blu-Ray and HD videos.
I think this is the best player for above query's.
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Mid priced player? is there such a unit?

I have held off buying a BluRay player for numerous reasons. Having said that, I have been looking but it seems the only ones I have found are either well over $400 or the dime-a-dozen around $100 and less. Is there anything around $200-$250 (plus or minus)?

1. Full size 14-17" width, no pint sized 'toy' looking tin boxes,
2. Internal PS, no bricks,
3. Optical & coaxial outs,
4. Display with time count,
5. Analog audio out would be a plus, but not a priority,
6. Internet applications and Networking not necessary.

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I have held off buying a BluRay player for numerous reasons. Having said that, I have been looking but it seems the only ones I have found are either well over $400 or the dime-a-dozen around $100 and less. Is there anything around $200-$250 (plus or minus)?

1. Full size 14-17" width, no pint sized 'toy' looking tin boxes,
2. Internal PS, no bricks,
3. Optical & coaxial outs,
4. Display with time count,
5. Analog audio out would be a plus, but not a priority,
6. Internet applications and Networking not necessary.
You might like the Pioneer BDP-80FD. I've seen it on sale for $250. But it has coax only, no optical. It also has 2 Ch analog. The Yamaha BD-S677BL has both and is always $250.

Personally, I prefer my $40 BDP-S1100's. Picture and audio quality are exactly the same as much more expensive players. And I wouldn't be able to read the display from 12 ft even if I had one. On-screen display is much better. Plus I can get one for every room in my house for the price of one expensive player. But it's your money of course.
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Hello,

I currently use the following setup :

Sources :
PC streaming over wifi 802.11ac with DLNA Universal Media Server, mostly mp4/mkv with 720p content, sometimes even with 5.1 soundtrack
Bluray
DVD

i don't use SACD, nor audio in general on the player (I use Spotify/Air Play instead)

Player :
PS3 "Fat" with wifi 802.11g

Rest of the setup :
Wifi router : ASUS RT-AC66U (802.11ac)
Receiver : Pioneer SC-LX56 + Triangle Color 5.1 kit
TV : Samsung UE46ES700

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I would like to replace the PS3 for the following reasons :
  • startup/shutdown is quite long
  • Wifi 802.11g means no streaming over 720p, no 720p+5.1, etc...

Which BR player would fit the bill ? I saw good review about the Oppo 103, do some of you use it in a similar setup ?
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You might like the Pioneer BDP-80FD. I've seen it on sale for $250. But it has coax only, no optical. It also has 2 Ch analog. The Yamaha BD-S677BL has both and is always $250.
How is conventional DVD playback and disc loading time?? The lack of optical may be a problem.

I see neither has Netflix which, I assume is why neither is popular here.

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How is conventional DVD playback and disc loading time?? The lack of optical may be a problem.
I know it by reputation only. DVD upconversion on it is apparently very good. Don't know about load times. But it has one feature I really liked on my old Panasonic players which is 1.5x playback speed with normal audio.

Do you plan to run both optical AND coax? Not a lot of players have both anymore. I assume you realize you can only get lossless HD sound tracks from HDMI, not optical or coax.

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I see neither has Netflix which, I assume is why neither is popular here.
You're probably right about that. While I would prefer as many features in the same box as possible, such boxes are usually a jack of all trades, master of none.
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No on both optical & coaxial, but the flexibility is nice as my AV receiver only has two of each (I have four other sources, one of which is a PC that I rarely use, so I have to use analog audio).

Why wouldn't coaxial & optical have lossless audio?

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No on both optical & coaxial, but the flexibility is nice as my AV receiver only has two of each (I have four other sources, one of which is a PC that I rarely use, so I have to use analog audio).

Why wouldn't coaxial & optical have lossless audio?

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Don't know why. I just know it never has and never will carry lossless.
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Which BR player would fit the bill ? I saw good review about the Oppo 103, do some of you use it in a similar setup ?
I have the same router, different 46" Samsung, and several OPPO players. I play MKV files and the occasional MP4. I used wired ethernet because it's convenient to do so.

The -103/105 players support SMB shares as well as DLNA. I'm sure some less costly players do the same thing.

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