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No on both optical & coaxial, but the flexibility is nice as my AV receiver only has two of each (I have four other sources, one of which is a PC that I rarely use, so I have to use analog audio).

Why wouldn't coaxial & optical have lossless audio?
Because S/PDIF doesn't support encryption. The studios don't want you to be able to use it to copy their precious bits.

Note that "lossless" in this case means Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA encodings. High bitrate lossless stereo LPCM *is* supported over S/PDIF.

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HELP!

Current Receiver: Denon 4520 with 11.2 speaker setup.
Current Player: PS3
Current Issue: Atmos Blu-rays registering as lossy audio on the PS3
Resolution: Help me find a new Blu-ray player.

Since I've had my PS3 I always had it set to bitstream and had the HD Audio light on the receiver. A month ago I popped in a multi-movie disc to watch Equilibrium and there was no audio menu whatsoever. When I looked at the PS3 info screen I noticed it said DTS and not DTS-HD MA. After looking online I came across the article below, which basically says if you have your PS3 set to bitstream it is only sending lossy audio to your receiver and switching to Linear PCM will give you the lossless sound. (That is when I realized all my audio had been lossy for the last year or so... )

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/h...with-your-ps3/

Now I have an issue where Atmos Blu-rays are only registering as lossy audio on the PS3.


I do not know if the PS3 with Linear PCM is able to send 7.1 or NEO:X information the receiver (I have a Denon 4520), for some reason I seem to think the PS3 will only do 5.1, but I may be wrong on that. I have to research some more. If a PS4 will do everything a standalone player will do, maybe I should get that?



I just want to make sure the player I get can send 3D, Atmos, 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, NEO:X, DTS-HD MA 7.1, etc. I have a 11.2 capable receiver and a 11.2 speaker configuration. I want to make sure I am sending every bit of information from the disc to the speakers.

-I'd rather not pay $500+ for an Oppo unless I was getting something I really needed/wanted. (plus there seems to be a lot of disc compatibility issues with Oppo)
-I don't care about 4K up-scaling right now. When I buy a 4K projector, 4K players will be mainstream, I'm sure.
-I don't care about streaming or web services (Most have it, but I don't care about it).
-Open on price, but the Sony BDP-S5200 (I haven't opened yet) was only $75, if I spend much more I might look into if the PS4 will do everything.


I grabbed a Sony BDP-S5200, but I haven't opened it yet and though't I'd ask for suggestions.

What do you guys suggest getting?

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I grabbed a Sony BDP-S5200, but I haven't opened it yet and though't I'd ask for suggestions.

What do you guys suggest getting?
The 5200 will work fine for your specified requirements. Just be sure to both enable bitstreaming and disable secondary audio mix. Otherwise it'll decode to stereo LPCM, which cannot provide Atmos.

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hello all,

i'm looking for a player with wifi for netflix and also can play mkv file via usb port. Also a dts mkv file player. most units only play dd 5.1 no dts.

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I have the same router, different 46" Samsung, and several OPPO players. I play MKV files and the occasional MP4. I used wired ethernet because it's convenient to do so.

The -103/105 players support SMB shares as well as DLNA. I'm sure some less costly players do the same thing.

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I want very good DLNA support, my benchmark being the PS3.

For instance the support in my TV is quite bad, and Samsung almost never update their firmware... so for me good manufacturer support is key
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I want very good DLNA support, my benchmark being the PS3.

For instance the support in my TV is quite bad, and Samsung almost never update their firmware... so for me good manufacturer support is key
I don't know to compare DLNA quality across products. Some of this depends on the server.

The PS3 probably gets longer firmware support than any other player.

Are you in the US? (Later: I see you are not). OPPO has a 30-day return policy on their players if you want to try one. You have to pay the return shipping. You might check with a local dealer to see if they have something similar.

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HELP!

Current Receiver: Denon 4520 with 11.2 speaker setup.
Current Player: PS3
Current Issue: Atmos Blu-rays registering as lossy audio on the PS3
Resolution: Help me find a new Blu-ray player.

Since I've had my PS3 I always had it set to bitstream and had the HD Audio light on the receiver. A month ago I popped in a multi-movie disc to watch Equilibrium and there was no audio menu whatsoever. When I looked at the PS3 info screen I noticed it said DTS and not DTS-HD MA. After looking online I came across the article below, which basically says if you have your PS3 set to bitstream it is only sending lossy audio to your receiver and switching to Linear PCM will give you the lossless sound. (That is when I realized all my audio had been lossy for the last year or so... )

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/h...with-your-ps3/

Now I have an issue where Atmos Blu-rays are only registering as lossy audio on the PS3.


I do not know if the PS3 with Linear PCM is able to send 7.1 or NEO:X information the receiver (I have a Denon 4520), for some reason I seem to think the PS3 will only do 5.1, but I may be wrong on that. I have to research some more. If a PS4 will do everything a standalone player will do, maybe I should get that?



I just want to make sure the player I get can send 3D, Atmos, 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, NEO:X, DTS-HD MA 7.1, etc. I have a 11.2 capable receiver and a 11.2 speaker configuration. I want to make sure I am sending every bit of information from the disc to the speakers.

-I'd rather not pay $500+ for an Oppo unless I was getting something I really needed/wanted. (plus there seems to be a lot of disc compatibility issues with Oppo)
-I don't care about 4K up-scaling right now. When I buy a 4K projector, 4K players will be mainstream, I'm sure.
-I don't care about streaming or web services (Most have it, but I don't care about it).
-Open on price, but the Sony BDP-S5200 (I haven't opened yet) was only $75, if I spend much more I might look into if the PS4 will do everything.


I grabbed a Sony BDP-S5200, but I haven't opened it yet and though't I'd ask for suggestions.

What do you guys suggest getting?
That 5200 will work good but you realize you won't get Atmos with the 4520?
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HELP!

Current Receiver: Denon 4520 with 11.2 speaker setup.
Current Player: PS3
Current Issue: Atmos Blu-rays registering as lossy audio on the PS3
Resolution: Help me find a new Blu-ray player.

Since I've had my PS3 I always had it set to bitstream and had the HD Audio light on the receiver. A month ago I popped in a multi-movie disc to watch Equilibrium and there was no audio menu whatsoever. When I looked at the PS3 info screen I noticed it said DTS and not DTS-HD MA. After looking online I came across the article below, which basically says if you have your PS3 set to bitstream it is only sending lossy audio to your receiver and switching to Linear PCM will give you the lossless sound. (That is when I realized all my audio had been lossy for the last year or so... )

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/21/h...with-your-ps3/

Now I have an issue where Atmos Blu-rays are only registering as lossy audio on the PS3.


I do not know if the PS3 with Linear PCM is able to send 7.1 or NEO:X information the receiver (I have a Denon 4520), for some reason I seem to think the PS3 will only do 5.1, but I may be wrong on that. I have to research some more. If a PS4 will do everything a standalone player will do, maybe I should get that?



I just want to make sure the player I get can send 3D, Atmos, 7.1 Dolby TrueHD, NEO:X, DTS-HD MA 7.1, etc. I have a 11.2 capable receiver and a 11.2 speaker configuration. I want to make sure I am sending every bit of information from the disc to the speakers.

-I'd rather not pay $500+ for an Oppo unless I was getting something I really needed/wanted. (plus there seems to be a lot of disc compatibility issues with Oppo)
-I don't care about 4K up-scaling right now. When I buy a 4K projector, 4K players will be mainstream, I'm sure.
-I don't care about streaming or web services (Most have it, but I don't care about it).
-Open on price, but the Sony BDP-S5200 (I haven't opened yet) was only $75, if I spend much more I might look into if the PS4 will do everything.


I grabbed a Sony BDP-S5200, but I haven't opened it yet and though't I'd ask for suggestions.

What do you guys suggest getting?
Which PS3 do you have? That article being 5 years old may be referring to older models. My slim PS3 with updates has only one multi-ch failing in that it cannot do Dolby TrueHD 7.1 and 3D at the same time, otherwise it's fine with everything else either bitstream or lpcm (know nothing about Atmos....don't you need an Atmos enabled avr for any audio benefits?). I do have the S5100 in my bedroom, like it very much.

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Which PS3 do you have? That article being 5 years old may be referring to older models. My slim PS3 with updates has only one multi-ch failing in that it cannot do Dolby TrueHD 7.1 and 3D at the same time, otherwise it's fine with everything else either bitstream or lpcm (know nothing about Atmos....don't you need an Atmos enabled avr for any audio benefits?). I do have the S5100 in my bedroom, like it very much.
I have a slim that I remember buying specifically for HD audio, but it still performs as the article I linked shows.

I think it still might be incorrectly configured as Selden Ball previously mentioned, but I haven't had a chance to take a look yet.


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That 5200 will work good but you realize you won't get Atmos with the 4520?
I know. Future-proofing.

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Remote In Capability?

It's time to replace my current Blu-ray player (PS3) as it's having disc ejection issues. My Mid-Atlantic equipment rack is in the back of my room and I have a Harmony 1000 remote w/ RF receiver (w/in the equipment closet) to control all my components and lighting. I've been looking for a player w/ a "Remote In" jack like my receiver has, but have been unable to locate one. I don't have a 3D projector yet, but my upgrade to one in the future. I also require the unit to work w/ the DTS-HD in my receiver (Yamaha RX-V3800). What do you all recommend that will work in my system? I really don't want the RF cable running around to the front of the unit as this looks ugly in my beautiful Mid-Atlantic rack w/ custom shelves...

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I have a slim that I remember buying specifically for HD audio, but it still performs as the article I linked shows.

I think it still might be incorrectly configured as Selden Ball previously mentioned, but I haven't had a chance to take a look yet.
You're using hdmi, yes? Mine works with hdmi either way, LPCM or bitstream, except as I noted with a movie that is both 3d and Dolby True HD (where it defaults to Dolby Digital). I stopped reading the article after I saw the date but checking your configuration may be the missing link?

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