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post #151 of 16808 Old 01-09-2008, 05:40 PM
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I own the Panny BD30 and Onkyo 605 and it is a great combination. The BD30 will bitstream all of the latest audio formats (including True HD and DTS-MA) and the 605 decodes them all. BD PQ is excellent. Std def DVD PQ is adequate.

Thank you, its a go then! Only issue for me is the wiggle room on the TV + BD30, will look around and see if theres a bundle thing in the next few days or so, and if not, I might forego odering the TV from amazon or the likes and get it B&M style at best buy or hhgregg (they don't have the new model I want in the store, but have over 100 in the warehouse which is of course right here in metro Atl, whew ) and demand they throw the BR player in, probably works out almost the same, but still!

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Since you have the 2910, I think it makes sense to return to A35. Have you compared PQ of both?

I seem to remember you from the AV123 site - am I right?

Honestly, on my 1080p display, I think SD DVD upscaled to 1080i with the 2910 looks better than upscaling to 1080p on the A35. The picture is a touch softer on the A35.

And yes, I'm often on av123 (though work has kept me away the last month or so).
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Any thoughts on price drop for Panny BD30 in near coming days ?

The reason why I am asking is bcoz I am getting a new Sammy 1400 for $250 and I talked to few people on this forum and I have got mixed replies. What I am wondering, is it reasonable to expect a price drop in BD30 close to 300-325 in next one month or so ? If it is gonna stay more than 350 then I don't think I can get one of those, bcoz nothing is flawless, something or the other in all blu ray players is creating issues.

My options : Sammy 1400, SONY 300 and Panny 30 ( if cheaper)

Please advise me what to do ?
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Any thoughts on price drop for Panny BD30 in near coming days ?

The reason why I am asking is bcoz I am getting a new Sammy 1400 for $250 and I talked to few people on this forum and I have got mixed replies. What I am wondering, is it reasonable to expect a price drop in BD30 close to 300-325 in next one month or so ? If it is gonna stay more than 350 then I don't think I can get one of those, bcoz nothing is flawless, something or the other in all blu ray players is creating issues.

My options : Sammy 1400, SONY 300 and Panny 30 ( if cheaper)

Please advise me what to do ?

Panny BD30 would be the recommendation if AQ is a primary concern. I wouldn't recommend the Samsung's, they seem to have enough issues making a solid player.

I would wait for the BD30 to price drop, it will probably take more than a month, probably when the BD50 hits the streets is when the price drop will occur.

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I don't see the BD30 dropping anytime soon. The player is in high demand, especially for those just coming board.
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what about the ps3?
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No reason to drop the price on the PS3. They're now flying off the shelves since the Warner announcement.
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I don't see the BD30 dropping anytime soon. The player is in high demand, especially for those just coming board.

But Panny BD50 is also coming out now, so ?
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I sent an E-Mail off to Amazon, last night, asking when they expected to have the Panny BD30 back in stock...
The response I got was that they don't expect to be able to obtain any more, and a suggestion that I should jump on one from one of their "Storefront" affiliates, before they're gone as well.

Looks like it may be out of production already(?) in prep for the BD50(?), and no longer shipping(?).

I took my step toward Neutrality, and ordered one from "*******" who are now showing them as Out of Stock.
(Thanks again, to "Splinters" for the direction )


Hmmmm... interesting, how come the asteriks?

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Will the PS3 output Dolby TrueHD via it’s digital out (optical) to my Denon 3805?

Also, do some Blu movies only have the DTS-HD-MA soundtrack, if so, what happens then? Just standard DTS or no sound?

Sorry if these q's have been answered a billion times, I'm new to the Blu world.

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Will the PS3 output Dolby TrueHD via it's digital out (optical) to my Denon 3805?

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Also, do some Blu movies only have the DTS-HD-MA soundtrack, if so, what happens then? Just standard DTS or no sound?

you get the 1.5 Mb/s DTS core

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Let me start by saying kudos to all of us beta testers willing to blow serious dollars waiting for firmware fixes and even more for the poor HDDVD camp who have bled so much even their packaging had red! (Name wasn't sexy enough!)

Now enter this matrix:

Ask yourself

1. I want Blu and max return on what I buy now, so I can sell it and by a tru-blu profile 2 by the end of the year.

Now go buy a playstation3. No other player here will have the resale value.

2. I realize this is a stepping stone player because I too want a tru-blu profile 2 but I would rather not spend the full $400 and i can always give it to mom for Christmas next year...oh and since money is a concern I will be using the player to decode to analog since there is no way I can swing a new receiver now in addition to my "bargain blu choice".

Now go buy a Samsung 1400

3. I am flush with cash and I will buy a new receiver, couple more surround speakers to get to 7.1 and put my old receiver in the bedroom. (Yes folks many people have surround in the boudoir) Oh and don't forget the Mon$ter diamond tipped gold wire 1 meter HDMI cable for $100...of course you'll need two!

Now go buy a Panasonic BD30

3 Choices, 3 Solutions, 1 format finally!

VIVA BLU! As usual content is King!
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Will the PS3 output Dolby TrueHD via it’s digital out (optical) to my Denon 3805?

No..You would only get two channel pcm and/or standard DD. You must use HDMI on the PS3 to benefit from TrueHD.

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Also, do some Blu movies only have the DTS-HD-MA soundtrack, if so, what happens then? Just standard DTS or no sound?

You would get DTS core only.
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I may run and get the BD30. Good thread with excellent advise guys.
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I am moving to Blu (I know....what took so long, right?) but know little about it.
What player would you get for $400? (I am not interested in a pS3)

I have a HDMI 1.3 compliant A/V receiver (Onkyo 605) so I do want to get the best send option for the price.

I was thinking about the BD-P1400. Opinions? Suggestions?

Thanks!
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I am moving to Blu (I know....what took so long, right?) but know little about it.
What player would you get for $400? (I am not interested in a pS3)

I have a HDMI 1.3 compliant A/V receiver (Onkyo 605) so I do want to get the best send option for the price.

I was thinking about the BD-P1400. Opinions? Suggestions?

Thanks!

Personally, if you are looking to jump in now for that price point, I'd seriously consider the Panny BD-30. Bitstreaming of HBR , 1.1 (PiP) and the Panasonic SALs are very rock solid.

If I wasn't using a PS3 right now, the 30 would be my player of choice!

I think some places are selling the BD-30 below 400 bucks right now, I'd check in the special pricing thread and see if you can get in on the deals!

Good luck!
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Thanks and as a side note for any recommendations, I really don't care about all the extra "on-line" and "bonus material" type of stuff.
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I am moving to Blu (I know....what took so long, right?) but know little about it.
What player would you get for $400? (I am not interested in a pS3)

I have a HDMI 1.3 compliant A/V receiver (Onkyo 605) so I do want to get the best send option for the price.

I was thinking about the BD-P1400. Opinions? Suggestions?

Thanks!

Merlin, I just picked up a BD30 for $429 at 6th Ave Electronics 20 minutes ago. They priced matched BH Photo.

I needed it now since i'm going to be out of work for a bit so I needed a new toy, but if you can find it online for less, than I would go for it.

I also have an Onkyo, but I bought the 805 a few days ago.
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Thanks and as a side note for any recommendations, I really don't care about all the extra "on-line" and "bonus material" type of stuff.

This is why I purchased a 1.1 profile player. I rarely if ever used these features on my HD-DVD discs.
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I wonder if the BD30 is worth $90 AND 5 free BR movies more than the BD-P1400? I can pick up a new BD-1400 locally for about $340 (including 5 free BR movies instantly).
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Thanks and as a side note for any recommendations, I really don't care about all the extra "on-line" and "bonus material" type of stuff.

As far as the software goes, obviously buy what you like, however if you really want some good benchmarking titles, take a look over @ the BD software thread.

Pretty much anything that's Disney related is excellent. Their high bit rate AVC encodes are just incredible. Most of the newer fox discs rock as well, DTS MA will blow your mind. :P
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I wonder if the BD30 is worth $90 AND 5 free BR movies more than the BD-P1400? I can pick up a new BD-1400 locally for about $340 (including 5 free BR movies instantly).

Uh yeah.

Stay away from the Sammy's if you can afford the premium. The Panasonic SALs are rock solid and worth every penny. My mom has the BD-10, and it's been nothing but a solid performer. No lockups, no issues with discs, just incredible.
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No..You would only get two channel pcm and/or standard DD. You must use HDMI on the PS3 to benefit from TrueHD.

You would get DTS core only.

Can you get TrueHD and (DTS-HD MA when available?) through the analog connections? If so, is there a difference in sound quality?

Like I said before, I'm new to Blu-Ray and know nothing about the PS3 or any PS console so thanks a lot for your help guys.

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Can you get TrueHD and (DTS-HD MA when available?) through the analog connections? If so, is there a difference in sound quality?


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No


Here is a snip from another thread that I was reading:

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So, is this incorrect or I'm I reading something wrong?
I'm just trying to figure out if I have to have a new receiver to enjoy the full audio benefits of Blu-Ray using the PS3 or a stand alone player with on board decoding.

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So, is this incorrect or I'm I reading something wrong?
I'm just trying to figure out if I have to have a new receiver to enjoy the full audio benefits of Blu-Ray using the PS3 or a stand alone player with on board decoding.

The statement is essentially correct. The decoding from TrueHD to LPCM is exactly the same in quality. There is no loss.
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The statement is essentially correct. The decoding from TrueHD to LPCM is exactly the same in quality. There is no loss.

Thanks Donnie!

So, just to make sure I'm clear on this....is it true or false??? I can go get a PS3 and connect it to my Denon 3805 using the Analog: AV MULTI OUT from the PS3 to the EXT. IN on my 3805 and essentially be hearing the TrueHD soundtrack??? (And maybe down the road DTS-HD MA.)

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No, because the PS3 is only has two channel analog out. You either need to get an HDMI receiver or a stand alone player that internally decodes advanced audio.
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No, because the PS3 is only has two channel analog out. You either need to get an HDMI receiver or a stand alone player that internally decodes advanced audio.

Ok, thanks again Donnie. Is the (to be released) Panny BD50 a player that will do what I need?

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