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I currently own the last set of top of the line Sony BD players (790/6200/6500/7200) and used to own the Panasonic BDT-460 (top of the line in the US currently) and Panasonic BDT-361. The BDT-460 and BDT-361 do not have more upscaling options compared to the current top of the line Sonys. The aforementioned Panasonic BDs players have been stripped of upscaling options compared to the older top of the line Panasonic BD players such as the BDT-310 (which I still own) from years ago.

I also own the Samsung BD-H6500. It's been solid as a rock and on par with the comparable models from Sony and Panasonic. I say this knowing that Samsung has had a bad reputation in the past, but I think they've made progress with the quality of some of their BD players.
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I'm thinking about buying a Samsung BD-J5100. I want a no-frills BD player. Don't need 4k. This will be going to a Onkyo TX-NR515. Looks like I can pick up the refurb for $35. I can't stream over internet as I'm on a heavily metered connection (no need for Netflix/Hulu/Whatever). The player won't see much use as I rip the main movie for playback from a NAS. I don't need it to be as cheap as possible but I don't want to buy a bunch of features I can't use.
Should be a fine choice then, mine works well.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a very quiet blu-ray player? Really the only other thing I'd care about is it preferably having DLNA capabilities. But what I'm really looking for is something quiet. I don't care about 4K or 3D or anything like that. My Sony BDPS3500 makes a racket. I've also got an older Sony BDPS390 that's pretty quiet but makes an annoying high pitched whine. I'd be looking for something preferably $100 or less.
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a very quiet blu-ray player? Really the only other thing I'd care about is it preferably having DLNA capabilities. But what I'm really looking for is something quiet. I don't care about 4K or 3D or anything like that. My Sony BDPS3500 makes a racket. I've also got an older Sony BDPS390 that's pretty quiet but makes an annoying high pitched whine. I'd be looking for something preferably $100 or less.
In that price range, you'll have to try several until you find one that's quiet. They all use "just in time" supply chains, getting whatever drive mechanism is the cheapest at the time they make their order. As a result, there's no way to know if the drive will be quiet until you listen to it.

On the other hand, players which list for over $500 are more likely to have been through a more stringent quality control and are more likely to have quiet drives. They use the same drives from the same suppliers as are used in the cheap players, but my impression is that the high-end player manufacturers seem to pick the quieter ones so you don't have to.

Edited to add: some people have reported success in opening up the player and tightening all of the mounting screws to reduce the noise. Some people have added some padding, too.

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Best player with analog audio output and apps?

Looking for the best bang for the buck for a BD player that has analog RCAs and Netflix/Amazon/Pandora. I am assuming this needs to be an older unit ? Not sure I want to spring $500 for an Oppo as could put that money to a new receiver (currently using an old Sony DA3ES but unclear if a much newer receiver would give me a big sound upgrade or not.

Ideally a Sony - so looking for a S790 or similar - as have has Sony BDs since day one so the family is used to the interface but open. Ideally looking for something under $200 (new or used) but open to ideas. Must be good to high quality audio and video, using a 65" Panasonic VT60 display, Monitor Audio Radius components with MA Gold center channel.

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If analog stereo, then any player plus an optical/coax converter ($12) will do fine. If 5.1 or greater, then you have to go back to the 790 era or get Oppo.
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Looking for the best bang for the buck for a BD player that has analog RCAs and Netflix/Amazon/Pandora. I am assuming this needs to be an older unit ? Not sure I want to spring $500 for an Oppo as could put that money to a new receiver (currently using an old Sony DA3ES but unclear if a much newer receiver would give me a big sound upgrade or not.

Ideally a Sony - so looking for a S790 or similar - as have has Sony BDs since day one so the family is used to the interface but open. Ideally looking for something under $200 (new or used) but open to ideas. Must be good to high quality audio and video, using a 65" Panasonic VT60 display, Monitor Audio Radius components with MA Gold center channel.

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If analog stereo, then any player plus an optical/coax converter ($12) will do fine. If 5.1 or greater, then you have to go back to the 790 era or get Oppo.
The new Panasonic 4K UHD Blu-ray disc player (DMP UB900) also includes a multichannel 7.1 analog output, but it's at a similar price point to the Oppo players (~$600).

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If analog stereo, then any player plus an optical/coax converter ($12) will do fine. If 5.1 or greater, then you have to go back to the 790 era or get Oppo.
I looked at that but my current BDP (-S5500?) only has one digi coax out that is used to go to the old receiver, so I would need a splitter. I looked ror that but don't see them available for a sensible price.

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Thx Selden. At that price ($5-600) I might be better off just buying a new Denon X3200W or a used X4000 and get the sound upgrade as well, no?

If that was the case, thoughts on comparing the two receivers?
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I looked at that but my current BDP (-S5500?) only has one digi coax out that is used to go to the old receiver, so I would need a splitter. I looked ror that but don't see them available for a sensible price.

Thx though.
If you have a receiver, then just get analog out of it through the headphone jack or monitor outs. I assume you can use HDMI to your TV. What exactly would the analog be used for?
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If you have a receiver, then just get analog out of it through the headphone jack or monitor outs. I assume you can use HDMI to your TV. What exactly would the analog be used for?
2nd room speaker out, and also 2nd room pre-outs to a wifi transmitter. I need analog IN to my current receiver for it to do 2nd room anything, like most receivers apparently
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2nd room speaker out, and also 2nd room pre-outs to a wifi transmitter. I need analog IN to my current receiver for it to do 2nd room anything, like most receivers apparently
My receiver does multi-zone with just one input. Maybe your money would be better spent on a new receiver ($300)?

In any case, for multiple outs and/or analog, you'll have to get something older. Seems like I recall having a Sony or Panasonic a long time ago that had optical, coax and analog stereo.

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My receiver does multi-zone with just one input. Maybe your money would be better spent on a new receiver ($300)?

In any case, for multiple outs and/or analog, you'll have to get something older. Seems like I recall having a Sony or Panasonic a long time ago that had optical, coax and analog stereo.

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Which receiver do you have that does multi-room with digital inputs? So far I have found the Denon AVR-X3000+ series seem to do it, which start at $600 new. What receiver does this for $300?

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Thanks for the link. It's a royal pain though tracking down a receiver that has both digital inputs to Zone 2, with speaker out and RCA pre-out, then researching if it's any good or not.

Oh, and I forgot about a Phono input as well...ugh. Maybe that makes a search easier though...

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Thanks for the link. It's a royal pain though tracking down a receiver that has both digital inputs to Zone 2, with speaker out and RCA pre-out, then researching if it's any good or not.

Oh, and I forgot about a Phono input as well...ugh. Maybe that makes a search easier though...
My Denon E400 was on clearance for around $300 at the time. Two zone for any input, but no pre-outs besides the sub and no phono. Guess you'd have to get something much more expensive for all of that. Sorry
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What Player should I Look at??

I’m in the market for a new Blu-ray player soon!! I would like to get a Oppo 103 but up here in Canada it will cost me $800.00 that is for the “standard” one..!!So my question is what player will come the closest in video & audio to the 103(my avr is a Yamaha RXA-2050 so it has the Sabre dac’s in it already). Not going 4k until my Panasonic 55ST60 dies!!Thanks for your help!!
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I’m in the market for a new Blu-ray player soon!! I would like to get a Oppo 103 but up here in Canada it will cost me $800.00 that is for the “standard” one..!!So my question is what player will come the closest in video & audio to the 103(my avr is a Yamaha RXA-2050 so it has the Sabre dac’s in it already). Not going 4k until my Panasonic 55ST60 dies!!Thanks for your help!!
If all you want are quality digital audio and video from the most common disc formats, then any Blu-ray player will meet that need, even the least expensive ones. The poor conversion of on-disc formats that plagued early players was fixed long ago. Sony and Panasonic players tend to be most recommended here. Traditionally they've had more features and been less buggy than players from other companies, although I understand that Samsung players have been quite good in the past couple of years.

However, Oppo players have some features which are not available in inexpensive BD players. You'll have to decide if you need any of them. Oppos are "universal players" which can decode several uncommon audio disc formats, like SACD and DVD-A. To play those formats, you'll need a universal player of some kind. New universal players are all in the same price range as Oppo players, although non-Oppos tend to be less expensive on the used market. Oppos also have some hardware features which are unique to them, like having a couple of HDMI inputs.

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Budget player for Atmos?

I have a Sony 6500, but it doesn't allow for straight Bitstream. Therefore, when I put in something with DTS, etc, I don't have the ability to use the Dolby Surround upmixer unless I move to PCM and upmix from 2 channel - yuck!

While I wait for a PS4 Neo (I have a PS3, but the Blu Ray part is broke it seems), is there a cheap Blu Ray player that will pass Bitstream? Like super cheap? Otherwise, I will wait for the PS4 Neo.

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I have a Sony 6500, but it doesn't allow for straight Bitstream. Therefore, when I put in something with DTS, etc, I don't have the ability to use the Dolby Surround upmixer unless I move to PCM and upmix from 2 channel - yuck!

While I wait for a PS4 Neo (I have a PS3, but the Blu Ray part is broke it seems), is there a cheap Blu Ray player that will pass Bitstream? Like super cheap? Otherwise, I will wait for the PS4 Neo.

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Huh? You should not have a problem bitstreaming with the Sony. Check the 6500 thread and your settings. Shelden's response to the same question on Atmos.

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Huh? You should not have a problem bitstreaming with the Sony. Check the 6500 thread and your settings. Shelden's response to the same question on Atmos.

Sony S1500/ S3500 / S4500 / S5500 / S6500 Blu-ray players
I got my settings from that thread when I got the player. It is set to Auto, not PCM, and DSU is not an option on those discs.

I either misread or didn't understand some of that post the first go - it sounds like this will be resolved shortly with a Denon firmware update?
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I got my settings from that thread when I got the player. It is set to Auto, not PCM, and DSU is not an option on those discs.

I either misread or didn't understand some of that post the first go - it sounds like this will be resolved shortly with a Denon firmware update?
It's because you have a 2015 model Denon receiver. They're deficient. They don't allow DSU to be applied to DTS soundtracks. It's not the fault of Sony's BD player (except that the BD player only decodes to stereo). The player settings Auto + Mix Off result in correct bitstreaming. Receivers from other major manufacturers (e.g. Yamaha and Pioneer) don't have this problem. This defect supposedly will be fixed in a few months with a firmware update provided by Denon (and Marantz).

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Thinking of getting a new Blu Ray Player. From what I have read the Samsung UBD-K8500 seems to be a good product but I cannot afford to spend 370.00 on a player and a true 4K does not appeal to me considering the costs of the discs at 30.00. My older Panasonic DMP-65 is okay but it is not up to par with the rest of my system. My AVR is a Yamaha RX-A2010 and would really like something that has good audio ex. Dolby as well as 4K upscaling. My budget is between 130-200. This may not get the best player out there but I am hoping it will be better then my current Panasonic. What would be some good choices? I have looked at the Samsung J7500 but that does mean I want that one I just want to know my options and suggestions so maybe you guys can help thanks.
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Thinking of getting a new Blu Ray Player. From what I have read the Samsung UBD-K8500 seems to be a good product but I cannot afford to spend 370.00 on a player and a true 4K does not appeal to me considering the costs of the discs at 30.00. My older Panasonic DMP-65 is okay but it is not up to par with the rest of my system. My AVR is a Yamaha RX-A2010 and would really like something that has good audio ex. Dolby as well as 4K upscaling. My budget is between 130-200. This may not get the best player out there but I am hoping it will be better then my current Panasonic. What would be some good choices? I have looked at the Samsung J7500 but that does mean I want that one I just want to know my options and suggestions so maybe you guys can help thanks.
What are you looking for that's not available in your current Panasonic player?

If you want analog audio outputs, you do need to spend ~$300. Otherwise you have to use HDMI to get the best audio, which is provided on all BDPs.

In the past Sony and Panasonic have been the favored manufacturers here. Unfortunately, both are cutting major corners in their current models. In particular, their current internal audio decoders only provide stereo PCM. If you want multichannel audio from them, you have to use bitstreaming. Samsung's current players provide more options in audio decoding.

Sony provides a better set of streaming apps than does Panasonic. The Sony BDP-S6500 and its replacement the BDP-S6700 provide 4K upscaling in addition to playing SACD discs.The primary addition in the S6700 compared to the S6500 is support for Bluetooth. The two of them are priced in the vicinity of $100 depending on where you get them.

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