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post #991 of 3682 Old 03-17-2008, 07:55 PM
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Hopefully the HD-DVD movies can be exchanged for Blu Ray versions for only a modest fee...

(sorry, I get an evil smile when I see HD-DVD 100 Blu Ray 0 in sig files )
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Hopefully the HD-DVD movies can be exchanged for Blu Ray versions for only a modest fee...

(sorry, I get an evil smile when I see HD-DVD 100 Blu Ray 0 in sig files )

i don't think thats going to happen.if you want to get rid of yourhd dvd's,put them on ebay,or here at the avs.then again i don't know what you mean by exchange,exchange with who?
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I'd really like it if some company just made a high end all digital transport (I don't use analog outputs for audio). I wish someone would spend more on the weight and design of a heavy duty case, i.e. foucs on it just being a digital transport with HDMI, optical, Coax outputs...

See Denon 2500

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My real question is... how will any of these new players look (video quality) compared to a PS3? The quality of the image seems to be determined by the quality of the MPEG/AVC/VC-1 decoder.... and they all seem to use Sigma designs... I think the PS3 just uses the Nvidia graphics card and decoding from nVidia... Has there been any significant changes in quality of decoding? I doubt anything significant... I'd love to get even better picture quality than the PS3, but I doubt anybody could tell the diffference between the PS3 and any of these new players.

I'd love to get a new player, I'd just like to have a good reason to buy one over the PS3....

My main reasons to buy the 50:

It is a 2.0 Player

It decodes all lossless codecs

My AVR won't decode all the lossless codecs.

When I purchase my new 50 I can use it to decode all the new lossless codecs until I puarchase my new AVR.

If you like your PS3, forget all the new stuff. It will do DTS HD MA, right??? I know the 300 and 500 won't.

Nice Stuff!
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If you like your PS3, forget all the new stuff. It will do DTS HD MA, right??? (

nope
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I'd get a Denon Blu ray Player... but no way I'm paying that much for a 1.1 profile player.
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No official US release date announced yet?




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This BD50 is announced by Panasonic France in june for 700€ ! This is quite expensive

700 € currency = 1,105.09 U.S. Dollars?! Are you chit'ing me?!

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No official US release date announced yet?





700 € currency = 1,105.09 U.S. Dollars?! Are you chit'ing me?!

It doesn't usually work that way, actually. For example, look at the Euro msrp of the PS3 vs its US$ msrp. (They're usually pretty close, regardless of conversion rate).
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My real question is... how will any of these new players look (video quality) compared to a PS3? The quality of the image seems to be determined by the quality of the MPEG/AVC/VC-1 decoder.... and they all seem to use Sigma designs... I think the PS3 just uses the Nvidia graphics card and decoding from nVidia... Has there been any significant changes in quality of decoding? I doubt anything significant... I'd love to get even better picture quality than the PS3, but I doubt anybody could tell the diffference between the PS3 and any of these new players.

I'd love to get a new player, I'd just like to have a good reason to buy one over the PS3....

DTS-HD MA is a good reason.
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It doesn't usually work that way, actually. For example, look at the Euro msrp of the PS3 vs its US$ msrp. (They're usually pretty close, regardless of conversion rate).

Yes, whatever the conversion rate, we (in Europe) are usually getting screwed by technical products companies. We always pay more.
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Yes, whatever the conversion rate, we (in Europe) are usually getting screwed by technical products companies. We always pay more.

Exactly. Panasonic DMP-BD30 american street price go´s around 500 dollar, right? Probably less.
The european price for this player is 500 euros, almost 800 dollar converted. Europe is definitely a great continent to obtain large profits.
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Exactly. Panasonic DMP-BD30 american street price go´s around 500 dollar, right? Probably less.
The european price for this player is 500 euros, almost 800 dollar converted. Europe is definitely a great continent to obtain large profits.

Europe has Value Added Taxes (VAT). Blame your greedy governments for the extra costs, retailers still make the same gross margins in Europe as they do in America.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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Back on the 11th I sent in an e-mail to two people at Panasonic. I posted the first response from Chris. Here is the 2nd from Jeff. I hope he is correct!



Right now should be available end of April, start of May.



Jeff


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From: Eric Hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:41 PM
To: Samuels, Jeff; Demaria, Christopher
Subject: DMP-BD50



Hello Jeff and Chris,



I have read the press about the new Panasonic DMP-BD50 Blu-Ray player with much interest. Is there a firm date set for this player will be on the market in the USA?



Thank you,



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I'd get a Denon Blu ray Player... but no way I'm paying that much for a 1.1 profile player.

Health Nut. You spent a large chunk on the Sim2 PJ. What's another $2000?
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Back on the 11th I sent in an e-mail to two people at Panasonic. I posted the first response from Chris. Here is the 2nd from Jeff. I hope he is correct!



Right now should be available end of April, start of May.



Jeff


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From: Eric Hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:41 PM
To: Jeff; Christopher
Subject: DMP-BD50



Hello Jeff and Chris,



I have read the press about the new Panasonic DMP-BD50 Blu-Ray player with much interest. Is there a firm date set for this player will be on the market in the USA?



Thank you,



Eric Hamilton.

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Back on the 11th I sent in an e-mail to two people at Panasonic. I posted the first response from Chris. Here is the 2nd from Jeff. I hope he is correct!

Right now should be available end of April, start of May.


Jeff

I actually had also sent an email to the above person and just got this reply back a minute ago:

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The BD50 should be available end of May- price has not been set


Jeff ---------------------------------------------------

Seems April/early May isn't going to happen.
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I Have A Friend Working At Panasonic Canada And She Says The Bd50 Is Slated To Be In Stock Around The First Week In August With A Suggested List Of $699.00 Can.
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I'm assuming the PS3 loads extremely fast because of the expensive cell processor and that standalones load slow due to the much less powerful processors they use... I hope that the new players like this BD50 are going to load as fast as the PS3 or at least very close...
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Dang, will this thing come out already? I'm a HD DVD refugee with an XA2, so at least I have the best there is for continued viewing of my HD DVD library in the future.

I was so excited about the Denon 3800 until......1.1....no ethernet....$1900...huh?

this BD50 looks like the first truly complete BD player.....I'm dying here.....absolutely dying....

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Agreed on the Denon players... need 2.0 players from this point onward, that was a dealbreaker... Would love to entertain a future 2.0 profile Denon (perhaps late this year?). I will do that if this BD50 player doesn't offer something I need (like 480i output over HDMI or something else...)
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I'm assuming the PS3 loads extremely fast because of the expensive cell processor and that standalones load slow due to the much less powerful processors they use... I hope that the new players like this BD50 are going to load as fast as the PS3 or at least very close...

It doesnt load any faster than the bd30

Just enjoy HD in whatever form you can (Sat, Cable, D-VHS, OTA, HD DVD, or BD).
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How long has blu-ray.com given an msrp of $599?
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The30 still loaded pretty fast, wouldn't everyone agree that in that price point the PS3 came first and the Panny 30 in second in that category?
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It doesnt load any faster than the bd30

How do you know this?
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Do the Panasonic BD player feature a "source direct" mode? Like where 1080i content can be sent to a display, while I dont have switch between 1080/24 and 1080i constantly?

The proper setting for sharpness is always0.
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Do the Panasonic BD player feature a "source direct" mode? Like where 1080i content can be sent to a display, while I dont have switch between 1080/24 and 1080i constantly?

Yes. That is how it operates by default when you enable 1080p24.

Vote with your wallet. Don't buy Cinavia-infected Blu-ray Discs! Why pay a premium for pseudo-lossless audio damaged by an intrusive watermark in the audible spectrum?
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It doesnt load any faster than the bd30

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How do you know this?

Since it isn't available yet I wonder how anyone can make this claim, specially a moderator.

Jon, please explain.
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I believe he was comparing load times of ps3 vs bd 30 ....

keep at it , results are worth it !!
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I would certainly like to get the BD50. I am sure that in a year or so there will be some BD50s for sale cheap. Since blu titles are so expensive, I will probably wait to get one cheap. Blu titles should be cheaper by then too. In the meantime, I will chip away at my year of backlog in HDM, mostly HD DVD.

For all the analog fans, my guess is that the devices that need those analog feeds, do not have the latest EQ routines built in. No matter how esoteric your audio stream, those built in EQ time delay etc bits of software are impossible to duplicate without a couple hundred thou in outboard equipment. I would not even consider analog in as an option given I would not get the benefit of the room fitting processing. That is why I have to limp along with basic DD and DTS with my Panny 10. The LFE bug prevents using lossless to any advantage.

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For all the analog fans, my guess is that the devices that need those analog feeds, do not have the latest EQ routines built in. No matter how esoteric your audio stream, those built in EQ time delay etc bits of software are impossible to duplicate without a couple hundred thou in outboard equipment. I would not even consider analog in as an option given I would not get the benefit of the room fitting processing. That is why I have to limp along with basic DD and DTS with my Panny 10. The LFE bug prevents using lossless to any advantage.

It would be interesting to hear the views of others on this remark. Anyone else want to comment on this. Is HD audio worth sacrificing some pre-pro features by going analog?
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