Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Hey guys im pleased to see the Samsung 71F models are now officially on the list after the Ultimate AV Review mag confirmed things
Just wondering if the list should point out that it is only as of a firmware update that it works
So the fact it is in an official review is now evidence that it definately supports it? Do we know how/if the reviewer actually tested it, or whether the info just came from Samswung? I am not disputing it, but moreso i am interested in how it can be verified what refresh rate is being used... is it simply "not seeing judder" and "not seeing interpolated frames" that proves it, or is there some measurable way?
I ask because i own the australian equivalent model (LA-46F81) and am interested in finding out whether it displays 24p content properly, or if we require a similar firmware update to what you guys had recently. The other "issue" with ours is that it is marketted at 100Hz (i guess because our normal tv broadcasts and PAL DVD outputs are 50Hz), but this is stupid since 100Hz is not an even multiple of 24. However when we look in our Service Menu, there is a setting in there (forget what it is called) which is set to 120... so it could just be that it ewither somehow can display at 100 for 50 content, and 120 for 60p content (and I hope 24p content)... or else it always displays at 120 like the US set, and is just marketted as 100 here. Or the final possibility is that it only displays at 100 (if that is the case, what happens to 60p content... perhaps it converts that back to 24 then does the PAL speedup thing to get to 50/100).
So yeah, my question is - how can i measure or otherwise ascertain how my tv is displaying various input signals?? I cant see any difference between 24p or 60p output from my Samy 1400 BD player, however once again this could be because 3:2 pulldown is simply moved from the player (when sending 60p), to inside the set (when sending 24p)... or if the set does display 24p properly, then it could actually be that it is inverce telecining 60p format back to 24p and then displaying it at 120Hz, as apparently that is what the 71F models do as per that review. This is my first LCD and since prior to BluRay I didnt have any 60p content (like NTSC DVDs etc), i am not experienced at "spotting" judder caused by 3:2 pulldown so i cant tell just by watching whether what i see is judder or just the natural 24 frame film cadence.
Any input appreciated