Originally Posted by HDTV1080P24 Most likely the problem is with the non Simplay HD certified device that is being hooked up to the Mitsubishi DLP. That device might have incorrect voltages or various other problems that causes the device to not meet the full specification of HDCP over HDMI or DVI. That brand and model of device you are trying to hook up most likely would not have passed Simplay HD standards. There have been a lot of products that have failed the Simplay HD certification process.It can be a real pain when one can not use HDMI and DVI devices. I have experienced the same frustrating problem. Before Simplay HD certification came along many of the technical support for one company would claim the problem was with the other companies product. With Simplay HD certified equipment one is assured the HDCP over HDMI and DVI specification has been met with many other tests.
Thanks for the reply. I understand all that and believe me I'm not seeking advice about what to do with a lousy connection or two, been there done that. I take issue with the lionizing of Simplay, because I see the issue much differently.
In one instance that I did experience it was the component that had trouble with my set and it actually had trouble with quite a few sets. No fault of Mits on that one except that Mits refused to get involved because the other component wasn't Simplay certified. That's a helluva disclaimer especially back a couple of years or so when the list of Simplay certed products could fit on a matchbook cover. BTW, the list still isn't very long. I'll bet Simplay certification paid for itself for Mits a hundred times over in customer/tech service costs, short phone calls. My point is that it is being used and abused for the wrong reason, a tech service shield instead of an interoperability warranty.
We all have had some sort of problem with HDMI connectivity at one time or another, so the idea of a mandatory common tested interface that passes some form of cert process gets my overwhelming vote. I'd even lobby congress for it.
TBS, I have a problem with the Simplay implementation. Simplay tests with other Simplay certified devices so instead of seeking the widest field of play for interoperability it narrows the field to only other certified devices. So the way I see it, a Simplay certified device could conceivably have less interoperability than a non-certed component simply because the sink and source are more in tune with each other. Its easy to certify a process when you absolutely know the other component is sending you a certed signal. Piece o' cake.
Here's some cut and paste from the Simplay website. The same or similar language is carried throughout their marketing brochures, etc:
"Our laboratories also test products for interoperability, to make sure all certified devices work together flawlessly."
Interoperability testing focuses on plug-testing of multiple device types, where the tested component is connected to a wide variety of other verified components. It identifies configuration and usage scenarios that may cause failures or degraded performance."
Every so often I read where the Simplay certification gets a very positive write up. At a glance it sure makes sense but I think this is an implementation where we need to pay attention to the man behind the curtain.