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Wow that looks great. Very nice. I'll let someone else chime in about the flood pour as I have zero experience with the EnviroTex, but let me say that with the few minor pinhole bubbles I see they are a non issue from a aesthetic point. It all looks great!

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You are going to have bubbles, can't avoid them all. But you know what? They have become fun to look for. Don't waste your time with pouring just an ounce here and there...it won't match up. My experience is that the flood pour cures all evils. Please, please, go buy a torch. You won't regret it.

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Randy,
I mixed up an ounce this afternoon and it covers all those small pin holes/flaws pretty well so I'll skip any sanding. And yeah, I'll be using the torch. I hope to get to the final flood coat later this week. I went back and read everyons's etex thread again and feel pretty confident with the final pour.
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Did you coat the bar with envirotec as well? If so, how did you do it?

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Thanks beach,
Only the bar top, rail, and drip tray get the etex coat. The sides have 2 coats of poly. I hope to get to the final flood coat later this week.

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, Sorry. I am a total idiot. I ment to ask if you used etec on the bar RAIL, I realize you used it on the bar. How did you apply it to the rail without getting puddles bubbles or runs in it? Thats what I ment to ask. what a wetodd.

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No problem beach,
I used a brush and spatula and let it run down the sides. This stuff has the consistency of honey and is self levelling so you don't have to worry about any brush and lap marks. Bubbles can be a problem when using this stuff, especially on hardwoods because air pockets in the wood pores have to go somewhere and rise up. That's what Randy was referring to a couple posts back advising about using a torch. The CO2 from the torch helps to pop the bubbles as they form, not the heat. I had very little bubbles since I used a very thin seal coat first to seal the wood pores. For the final flood coat, I'll have a torch ready and I won't be using any brush because you basically move and push the etex around. Check out Randy's (HeyNow) and Neuner's thread. Several others on here have used it with mixed results.
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Thanks for the help Rich, I used quite a few coats of polymer on my bar top first so hopefully that will keep me from having too many bubbles. I was just afraid to use the etec on the rail because I have seen that go horribly wrong for others. But I guess you can just let is start to thicken up and use a brush (hadnt thought of that)

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I also had a couple coats of poly on the top. Etex recommends a scuff sand prior to going over a poly finish. So I did the light scuff sand, but ended up with a dull, white finish that looked horrible and couldn't remove it even with denatured alcohol or acetone. Maybe becasue the poly coats were too thick? humidity?? Well, I wasn't about to risk putting the etex seal coat over that so I ended up using paint stripper to remove the poly completely. Fortunately, it worked out great and the poly came up easy and I was left with the identical prefinish treatment that came with the hardwood. Luckily, the prefinish treatment on the oak flooring comes with a titanium finish that even paint stripper will not harm or remove.

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Here's some updated pics on the final pour after the seal coat. The bar top and drip tray turned out great...smooth as glass. The bar rail has a few ripples because of the curves, but it's not too bad. It's tough controlling the pour on a curved surface. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the final result. I let the etex bottles sit in bucket of room temp. water for about 20 minutes to get them up to 70 degrees. Just make sure they don't fall over in the bucket because they are not sealed under the cap! As others have mentioned, a torch is a must to kill off the air bubbles. I ended up doing the rail twice. On the second rail pour, I taped off the bar top with blue painters because I wasn't about to do the bar top over again and used just a brush. It came out better since I let the etex sit for about 10 minutes before applying.



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The speakers finally installed along with the faux HVAC vents to cover up outside water/sprinkler shutoff valves.



I had to pad this vent out an extra 3/4" because I was too lazy and didn't want to stop sheetrocking and cut the pipe to move the valve another 45 degrees upward.
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He lives!!!!!!! Whoo hooo!!!!!

The envirotex turned out fantastic. Very nice! Well done on the faux vents. Very unique way to cover the faucet shut offs up. Well done. It all looks great.

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looks great. Wish my pour went as well.

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Thanks RTROSE/Dinger,
I've been scrambling the last couple of weeks getting all those little things done that I have been neglecting for months. My son came home on leave from the Army last weekend after a year so it was a good incentive to get my butt moving. I bought the Etex back in late fall and was a little concerned about the shelf life, but it was OK. They don't give an expiration date so who knows how long that stuff has been sitting in the store.
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Javatime,

Please thank your Son for his service to our country. I have had the honor to serve and also serve our nations Veterans for the last 30 years.

BTW, your bar turned out awesome.
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My thanks to your son also, Javatime, for his service ... and you, too, HeyNow^. My son returned home from the Middle East about a year ago, and I know I began sleeping a lot better after that. For some reason your comment reminded me of the way-off-topic post I made on this topic in my build thread while he was "in the sandbox." It's a long ramble, but as a father of a soldier you just might recognize an emotion or two in it.

God bless America, and all those brave men & women in the armed forces who serve her.

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My thanks to your son also, Javatime, for his service ... and you, too, HeyNow^. My son returned home from the Middle East about a year ago, and I know I began sleeping a lot better after that. For some reason your comment reminded me of the way-off-topic post I made on this topic in my build thread while he was "in the sandbox." It's a long ramble, but as a father of a soldier you just might recognize an emotion or two in it.

God bless America, and all those brave men & women in the armed forces who serve her.

Here, Here.....Amen!

I echo Hanes thanks.

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Thanks Guys,
I'll pass that along to him. We have him home for a couple more days before he heads back. Somehow, working in the basement has been therapeutic to me. Being a vet myself having served in the Air Force in the early to mid 70s in the post Vietnam "era" days, I know it's a much different world today than it was in my time. Great previous post Hanes... I can fully appreciate your words.

I also have 30 years working for the DoD in the logistics area and still enjoy making sure our troops get the stuff they need to do their job. The other day I couldn't believe my local store was out of stock on the wireless router I wanted. Kinda puts things in perspective.
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Wow...small world Randy. I went in August '73 and also went to Shephard for Tech school (F-4 acft. mechanic) and over in the PI from 75-76. I spent most of my time stateside at good ol' Seymour Johnson in Goldsboro, NC.
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Judas H. Priest!

Would yous two ... whatchamacallit ... veterinarians ... take your love notes out back so the rest of us humanitobians can get back to readin' 'bout bar finishes again!?

Sheesh!!


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My god its a lovefest!!

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My god its a lovefest!!

They have OTHER forums where this type of love is even encouraged! Or so I'm told, have no personal experience in that type of thing.

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OK...OK...OKayyyy! Yeah...I'd better PM Randy and take discussions offline about whether he frequented the 'Fire Empire' and some other infamous bars in the Phillipines because this forum is definetely not ready for those threads...lol
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Did somebody mention the "Fire Empire?!"



No way!! That's where all us wild and crazy guys hung out!!

Et tu, Java & HeyNow? I didn't even know yous guys were Czechoslovakian!!

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Very nice motivation to restart the planning phase of basement redo.. finally on the home stretch with the upstairs family rood entertainment center.
Etex.. news to me.. that must be the stuff I have seen on table tops that looks 1/4" thick??
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elkski,
Yes. Envirotex Lite, or Etex for short, is the clear, glass coating you see on restaurant tables and a 2 part mix. There is a couple of different brands out there that do the same thing, but most in here have used Etex. You can pick it up at Acmoore or Michaels. Try searching in here and you'll find several others that have used it too.
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I think I was going to finish the bathroom in the fall...fall of last year that is but I haven't done squat. So with a 4 day weekend coming up, I'm hoping to make some headway in between raking leaves and blowing out the sprinklers. I painted last weekend and picked up the vanity, sink, exhaust fan/light, toilet, door and molding. Everyone's complaining about going all-the-way-upstairs to use the bathroom. Besides, I'm running out of coffee cans...





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Gonna look nice!
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I just want to say that this is one SWEET view! Damn fine job!
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Nice Job! as already stated, your finishing skills are amazing. I love these threads, makes me want to sell my house and move to a house with a bigger unfinished basement so I can build my HT 2.0

Your Basement looks so inviting, You must love entertaining people down there.

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Hey Java.
What dimensions is the tile floor under the bar? My basement is all carpet, but I am thinking I should do a small tiled area for my soon-to-be built bar.

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