Originally Posted by Boozemaker
Yes thats the thermostat.... lovely place for it isnt it?
okay, so 7.1 won't work without room behind the couch. Good to know.
wasn't too clear on your recommendation, but were you saying I should have the bookshelfs, rears, and a center channel speaker... or no center channel?
I'll go check out that sub. I was looking at polk audio's psw505($250), and proficient audio's PS10($290). curious on how they might compare to the BIC F-12
The sound field was my concern, this is why I was thinking in ceiling's would be best. If someone is sitting on the far left of the couch they will have the left speaker to the right of them with bookshelfs.
Above the couch is the attic, there are no attached neighbors on my house.
I attached a few photo's of the couch area so you can see what I mean.
I'll definitely check out the speakers you recommended.
One more concern on the bookshelfs, is if I ever upgrade my TV to something bigger (and that supports 3D), I'm not sure I will be able to fit them. Which again makes me lean toward in-ceiling.
Is it advantageous to use bookshelf speakers on brackets mounted to the ceiling instead of in-ceiling speakers if I had to? or am I basically in the same position I was with in-ceilings.
Which brings me back to one of my original questions, can I use in-ceiling (or mounted on ceiling) speakers with a center channel speaker directly in front of me? or would the all have to be located above me to sound correct/better.
thanks again for all of your help!
Yes, if your concern is a wide soundstage then the bookshelf speakers or onwall speakers are not going to cut it. Nor will onwall speakers, and you are correct there will be no option to upgrade to a larger TV in the future.
So.. This leaves you with two options I see. A good soundbar. Or the in-ceiling speakers you reference.
In-ceiling is not preferred as you end up with a good portion of your sound being lost either in front of you, or you may feel that the sound is coming from above you vs in front of you. I am speaking on this with some authority as my main family room was wired with 6 in-ceiling speakers, and even with a pivoting tweeter, they really don't sound that good to me. If you stand under the speakers they actually sound pretty good, but I don't see too many people wanting to watch TV 3 ft away from the TV on the floor
But now that I have a dedicated media room it does not bother me nearly as much as these speakers are just used for causal TV watching or by the kids.
That said, there are some speakers out there that will definitely address some of these issues. It really depends on how important audio is to you in this setup.
I know this is above your budget, but if this is your primary listening area and you want good audio, I would consider three of these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Definitive-T...item1e6b8ef85e
Now the seller bajawaverunner on Ebay is the parent company for Deftech and I have seen him sell these very same speaekrs refurbished on Ebay for $260 apiece. I have ordered several speakers from the seller and they were in brand new condition and worked flawlessly. He has a good return policy (no charge to you) if they are defective. So that is one option.
If that is just too much for your blood, I would go for the Speakercraft AIM series which allows you to aim the woofer and tweeter:
I would get three of these for the mains:http://www.amazon.com/Speakercraft-P...3478151&sr=8-1
You could either go cheaper with your inceiling surrounds as they are not nearly as important.
Or the third option. These:http://www.htd.com/Products/high-def...iling-speakers
These would be the cheapest. And I suspect the worst sounding of the three, but at a minimum you have the angled woofer and adjustable tweeter, but they would not be as flexible as the Speakercraft or sound as good.
The Deftech speakers would by my recommendation if you can up the budget but longterm, it would offer the best sound for the money.
The Polk sub, on a budget is not a bad option. There is a good thread here:http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1364182
Personally, I am a big fan of spending a few hundred more and getting something from Epik (Legend), Hsu, Outlaw (watch for sales and B stock specials), SVS, or Rythmik. I know, easy to spend other peoples money
But from my perspective, waiting a little longer and buying better components for a few hundred more across years or usage is worth it. You can buy and build your system in stages and end up with a very nice sounding system and not wondering "what if" or having or doubts.
I wish I would have spend more on my living room speakers and bought the Speakercraft. I actually have plans to upgrade to them down the road as it still bothers me enough when I watch TV in the room.