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Welcome to my "Clothing Optional" Media Room.


I am doing a long overdue bathroom remodel in our master bath. Since I am going through the trouble of remodeling I figured it was a good time to hook my little Lady up with a sweet setup. It is a tiny bathroom, but we are making the most of the floorspace we have. Room is 7ft x 7ft 2". Installing:

Jacuzzi that measures 72"x55.5".
4 shower heads.
37" Haier TV.
B&W CCM626 In-Ceiling Speaker
Polk PSW10 10" Sub
Yamaha HTR 5730
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My 8 Year old daughter and her friend checking out the new tub.


Before Pics:


After I took off the shower doors I remembered to take "before" shots.



If the closet takes up 30% of the bathroom space....it is probably is to big.

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Taking pretty much the entire room to the studs.
Going to put up 1/2" backer and tile the wall surounding the Jacuzzi since it will also be a shower.

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I am doing this one a little out of the ordinary since the room isn't big enough to have traditional shower doors that open out.
A custom sliding door that is 7ft wide is over $2000..... so I ordered two of these:



Both will open "IN" towards the tub and lay flat against the wall while bathing. The deck surrounding the tub will extend 6" past the tub to the wall so they should be plenty clear of the tub when in the open possition.
They are 34" wide so they will not meet once opened. They are going to be more like shower screens instead of shower doors.
There will be a 16" gap between the doors, but since they will be 55" off the back wall where the showers are there should be minimal spray through.
(fingers are crossed...)




Source: http://www.dreamlineshowers.com
Purchased through Amazon.com
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I'm totally digging the modern doors and the black tile. Very cool look.

After seeing your "Before Pics" with the hammers in the drywall, I'm starting to think twice about bringing our family up to see you guys again. LOL

Can't wait to see the progression. There are a lot of great guys in this forum that can give you some good suggestions (cause you know I'm not very handy with stuff like that).
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Not getting black tile. it will look closer to slate.


It is called Sunset Aspen, from Lowes.
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Here is where I could really use some input:
The TV is a Haier 37" LED. I am recessing it into the wall seem below. I will box it in and vent it somehow.
As far as I can tell the TV puts off almost no heat. Definitly less than my LCD.
How much venting do I need.
Can I get away with just having a vent pipe coming out the top, cover the opening with pantyhose or something to keep dust out of the box and another intake on the bottom and just convection vent?
If I can get away without a fan it would be great. The fewer moving parts the better.



As you can see it backs up to the end of the hall bathroom shower stall so I have a little extra room to play with.
4" or so in some places directly behind the TV.
I added the insulation for sound purposes.

I plan on boxing it in with a 1x4 wood frame with 1/2 birch plywood backing painted flat black.
1/4" glass for the front would sit basically flush with the tile.
Any thoughts?
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I have no extra room at all in here so the speakers have to go into the ceiling.


I am putting the Polk PSW10 Sub in the ceiling. it is 14" square so it fits nicley between joist.
I am debating on if i should use a white grill cloth or just let the sliver speaker show.
My Wife is ok with the look, but I want it to look like a nice bathroom not a mancave.

I am concerned about heat in the attic so I will separate the amp from the speaker. I will cover the hole in the box and run 12 guage speaker wire between them.



Any issues or special things to concider when putting a sub in the attic?
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I was a little scared/excited to see what you meant by clothing option. tongue.gifwink.gifbiggrin.gif

I am interested to see how you progress with this thing. I also need to redo our master bath some time. It was on the list to do after we bought the house, and it's been over a year . . .
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Ok....so I said I showed a picture to my wife of the sub and she said it would be fine if you could see it in the ceiling without a grill. She saw the actual sub this weekend and was shocked. There was nothing in the picture for scale. She was thinking it was the size of a Boston Acoustics PC speaker set. 6-8in square. lol.
She did say that this would look better than the tiny sub anyway. I have a cool wife. wink.gif
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I built and installed the enclosure for the TV this weekend. I have ordered the glass for the front. 1/4" clear glass $32.
1x4 sides ripped down to 3.25 and 1/2" Birch plywood back.






The vent and wire pipes are 1.5" PVC. I cut the holes with a 2.25" hole saw which fit the elbow fittings snug. I trimmed off the elbows so they sit just past flush with the inside of the box. I attached them with a silicon bead from the back.




The bottom of the TV is mounted 36" off the floor. Should be comfortable when in the Jacuzzi, but not to low to enjoy it when in the shower.
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1/2" backer board and new moisture resistant sheet rock ceiling put directly over the top of the existing ceiling.



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This was my first time to ever lay tile, but I am pleased with the results.



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I am expecting the ceiling speaker to come today. Anxiously awaiting.....
I would appreciate if someone could share some experience with ceiling speakers.
I figured it would be best to have some kind of enclosure.
Either for sound or for simply projecting the speaker.
I have about 10" of blown in loose fiberglass insulation.

B&W CCM626

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This little baby came in last week and I took it for a test drive in the other bathroom.
got it from highpresureshowerheads.com



They aren't kidding. You could kill a dog with this thing.
It has an adjustment on the side, but at the finest spray setting it actually hurts!
Feels great on the back and scalp, but pretty rough on other areas.
The adjustment is nice and gets it to a good shower with great presure.

This will be one of the four shower heads in this shower.

This is with the flow restrictor removed, which was very simple with a philips screwdriver.


I do have to disclaim that I have 80PSI on my side of the presure regulator.
The manager of the water department lives across the street. Our line is seriously oversized. ;-)
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2nd water heater installed....135 gallons total.
80 gallon in series with 55 gallon. I have ordered timers for them both to conserve electricity.
I will start with the 80 gallon only coming on for about an hour around 6:00pm. That should cover bathtime for everyone without having to run it all day every day.

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Wow...that looks sweet!

My only question is how you plan on doing the sub? You said in the ceiling...then I noticed you had a picture of the amplifier taken out of it. Do you plan on getting rid of the enclosure all together and mounting just the speaker itself in your ceiling? It would seem like a subwoofer specifically meant for in wall(free air) use would be a better option in that case...or not? Keep posting pictures! Looks like it'll turn out real nice.
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Thanks domanskipaul. I am separating the amp from the sub for heat purposes in the attic. I will cover the hole left by the amp with wood and seal it up before mounting the entire enclosure in the ceiling. It is 14" square so it will fit between my ceiling joist. The face of the sub will be the only thing visible. It will be mounted basically flush with the ceiling and trimmed out. The amp will be mounted in the basement diretcly below the TV with the Yamaha reciever.
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So UPS was not so nice to my speaker.... SO Disappointing!
It got dropped hard enough the tweeter was ripped clean. The wires ripped right in half. The cone took some beating as well.
At least the shipment was insured and I will get my money back.

I am now in search of another affordable ceiling speaker option that didn't come out of the back of a white van in the alley.


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So I am kinda in a hurry to get this finished and I really hope I don't regret this. My one shot of a high end speaker died with UPS.
I found these on Craigslist localy cheap and will be picking them up later today.

Acoustic Audio HD-6c - 350 Watt In-Ceiling/In-Wall Center Channel Speaker
Acoustic Audio SP8C Rear Speaker (pair) - 300W 8" In-Wall/Ceiling Home Theater Speaker






Speaker placement help would be much apreciated!

7ft long area with 6ft Jacuzzi centered in it.
At the foot is the 37" TV. On the head end near the center of the tub on the ceiling there is a 8" rain shower.

This is a very busy ceiling.....Here are my first thoughts.
There will only be Left, Right, and Center channels.
The speakers don't angle so I did't want to put them all on the far end near the TV.
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I just have to keep telling myself....this is the bathroom not the Home Theater.
You can see that here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1390166/dedicated-ht-game-room-basement-build



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Lovin the progress and the Google Sketchup drawings really help visualize the concept of what you are trying to achieve.

Sorry to hear about the B&W speaker. Anytime I ship audio gear, I get so anxious to hear from the buyer that everything arrived in good condition because I know how rough shippers can be.
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So I had to can the idea of using these speakers. These:
"Acoustic Audio SP8C Rear Speaker (pair) - 300W 8" In-Wall/Ceiling Home Theater Speaker"...Sound terrible.
If I didn't have a beautiful Klipsch setup in the Home Theater I probably wouldn't care, but I do and just don't see myself enjoying music through these things.

This one sounded surprisingly good considering how bad the SP8C's sounded.
Acoustic Audio HD-6c - 350 Watt In-Ceiling/In-Wall Center Channel Speaker
I will probably keep it to mount in the laundry room or kitchen for music and sell the SP8Cs on craigslist.

Youthman hooked me up with a deal on a Klipsch r-2800-csm.
Dual voice coil 8" weather resistant speaker.....that's more like it.

This will let me run both left and right channels to the separate tweeters and have less clutter on the ceiling and hopefully a better sound.
http://www.klipsch.com/r-2800-csm-in-ceiling-speaker
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Productive Weekend :-)
As you can see by the book my wife is already enjoying the tub.




The ceiling has one coat of primer and everything but the Klipsch 2800 installed:



I was trying to figure out the best way to trim out the sub and found this at Home Depot:


13.5" x 13.5" opening fits the 14" x 14" sub very well.
I had a buddy hold the trim and sub up flush to the ceiling while I put decking screws into the sides of the cabinet through the joist up top.
I put 1/4" plywood on each side of the sub to shim flush to the joist.
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I would like to quiet down the motor some to make the room more enjoyable with the jets running.
Watching TV or playing music, the quieter the motor is the better.
Ordered these from Fastenall. 1/4"x20 thread. 3/4" rubber vibration isolators.
I will replace the bolts that hold the motor on with these.



I have an access hole cut directly below the motor from the basement.
I would like to acoustically insulate under the tub as much as possible to deaden the noise and funnel as much noise as possible down into the basement where I don't care if it is loud or not.

Please offer some suggestions on acoustic material to use under the tub.
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Room is coming along very nicely. Love the look of the sub in the ceiling. How are you going to finish it around the edges? Is there a moulding of some sort?

I'm not even going to ask what the Blue Bonnet butter in the bathtub is for. Haha
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You are using tempered glass for the TV correct?
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Alright Youthman. The butter in the tub is my business. LOL.
(Container to hold the tile spacers.)
I will use the access pannel trim pictured above to trim out the sub.

Colour: the Glass in front of the TV is not tempered. I just went with thick glass at the recommendation of the glass company I used locally.
The glass is 1/4" thick. Twice as thick as standard window glass.
Short of someone throwing rocks in the bathroom it should be fine.
They said someone leaning on it would not be a problem.
The glass in my office windows is 1/4" an they are 6ftx8ft.
People lean on them all the time.
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Hahahaha....dude I just could not resist on that one. I have a warped mind I know.

Somehow I missed the Access Panel post.

Just curious Colour, is there a benefit to using Tempered glass?
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Tempered glass is stronger than normal glass and is the same glass they use on car windows. it shatters into tiny pieces rather than large dagger like shards.

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