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Hey Ya'll...

I've been a lurker here for a while figured it was time to finally start my project. Bought a house in 2011- have been living with my basement in a "finished" condition. I say that in quotes as it was a really odd/crappy (in my opinion) finish - the walls were empty and echoed hollow, it was cold, damp and downright uncomfortable.

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Tile Coming up:


Tile Gone:




The "easy" work (demolition) is done... More to come-- Been working at installing a subfloor/bar area, as well as running wires for speaker placement.
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Remember that time that i kept working and failed to update anything? Yeah here we are. Tons of progress since the Demolition phase. In order:

Dricore subfloor and insulation going in:


Initial Bar Layout Idea:


Bar Framed out:


Taps Framed in, and trunk line run from garage:


Keezer in Garage Built - should hold one half keg and one sixth keg at the same time.


Much more progress has been made after this, just need to get around to transferring the rest of the photos!
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Slot for the AV Cabinet:


Kegerator is Full -- gotta have beer to work, right?


Sanding down the Mud.... Adding More Mud, Sanding that back down. Maybe i should have hired for this part?


Skipping over hours and hours of sanding/re-mudding and sending again - Primer is up:



More to come - I've chosen "Mineral Alloy" by Benjamin Moore as my paint color for the walls. Sticking with White on the ceilings. Looking at that last primer pic, basic plan is for a TV area on the left, and the bar area in the far area on the right of the photo.

Will keep this thread updated.... Unsure if anyone is reading, but you guys have given me tons of ideas so maybe someone can borrow some of mine!
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Painted!



Having Home Depot do the PergoXP flooring, can't justify the amount of time it would take me vs the price for them to do it.
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Will keep this thread updated.... Unsure if anyone is reading, but you guys have given me tons of ideas so maybe someone can borrow some of mine!

With over 200 views, I'd say that lots of people are interested! It's always exciting to see someone's vision become a reality - good work - keep posting!

[On a personal note, I was hoping that you could come up with a way to keep that pair of CAT5 wires hanging across the ceiling and disappearing into the wall register biggrin.gif ]
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How can you NOT want to follow a thread where the kegerator is larger than the AV rack opening?
As segmented as your ceiling is, think twice about darkening the area where the video is happening. Other than the hassle of painting in black without leaving roller marks, it's gonna make that part of the entire area stand out as the place for immersion.

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[On a personal note, I was hoping that you could come up with a way to keep that pair of CAT5 wires hanging across the ceiling and disappearing into the wall register biggrin.gif ]

I was also quite attached to those.... I ghetto-rigged them to get some network connectivity for a while, and that rigging was part of the reason i decided to drink a few beers and knock down some walls. Whoever "finished" this basement before i bought the house did an incredibly awkward job. The way they segmented the space created zero usable areas.


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How can you NOT want to follow a thread where the kegerator is larger than the AV rack opening?

Ha, I was tempted to just go with a standard under-bar kegerator-- but once in researched how much those cost due to the airflow requirements, i bailed on that and built the keezer/controller. It's difficult to "tune" the flow rates as there is a 7' vertical head on the beer coming out of the taps. I may have to invest in some sort of flow restriction devices. More research is required here!

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As segmented as your ceiling is, think twice about darkening the area where the video is happening. Other than the hassle of painting in black without leaving roller marks, it's gonna make that part of the entire area stand out as the place for immersion.

This was the plan originally, but after the primer went up i decided to leave it white... it's a small enough area that i wanted to to "feel" bigger by being lighter. Kinda wish they expanded this house by about 30% in every dimension! Plus i figure painting darker is always an easier task than painting lighter. I still may do this.
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Flooring is in... Amazing how quick seasoned professionals work. Something that would have taken me a full weekend of labor was knocked out in about 3 hours. Wow.



Also got the AV cabinet stained and built over the weekend:









Gotta work on trimming it out next. Also have got a ton of baseboard to do.... not really looking forward to that task!
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Finally some A/V Action-- Speakers and receiver(s) have been ordered!

So basically i'm going with a 2 "zone" system... but i'm not doing it via the built in 2 zone on the receiver, i'm going with a separate amp for the 2nd zone. By the bar i am going to have a pair of speakers and eventually a subwoofer. In the TV area i'm going with a traditional 5.1 setup. I'll break down the equipment by area.

TV Area:

Receiver: Onkyo TX-NR 717
Front L + R Speakers: Polk 265RT in-wall
Center Speaker: Pol 255c-RT in-wall
Surround L + R: Polk 65RT in-wall
Subwoofer: Polk DSW Pro 660 wi

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Amplifier/Source: Airport Express feeding a Maestro-50 ( http://www.ava-media.com/maestro.html )
L + R Speakers Polk 265RT in-wall
Sub: not decided.

The odd-ball piece of equipment is the Maestro-50. I bought one of these beauties about 6 months ago for my bedroom where i have dual polk RC85i speakers. The sound is fantastic, and it requires no remote or anything. It auto-senses the signal from the airport express, powers up and starts playing. I absolutely love the one i have and can't wait to get the second installed. Disclaimer - I am in no way affiliated with the maestro company, i just love their product.

Not going with a projector, decided a 55" tv would suffice for my purposes. Got a great deal on a 2012 model Samsung 7100 back in March that i've had sitting in the living room boxed up (after i tested it of course). Should be fun to cut all the speakers in and get the wires i've buried behind drywall out and put to use!
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It's absolutely amazing how much you can get done when you take full days off from work and do home stuff all day. Got all 120' of baseboard trim painted with 2 coats, cut and installed in 2.5 days. Also got the trim work for the AV cabinet stained, poly'd and installed. Also got 4 doors and their trim pieces painted and ready to be installed soon. Check it out:





The fun work of cutting in the in-wall speakers and hanging the TV starts!

I've decided to go with Airstone from Lowes for the front of the bar, and use oak flooring for the bar top.

Also updated the thread title to include media room, since it's spiraled into much more than just the tavern i intended smile.gif
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3/4 Doors are in, missing one of the closet doors as i have to shave it down to get it to close better:





AV Cabinet has shelves, a cable box and receiver installed




I also got all of the speakers in the TV area cut in, unfortunately i am pretty severely lacking in the furniture department - hopefully this keeps me motivated to keep working and not just veg out and watch movies smile.gif


Taking this evening off and going to drink some beers and relax. Tomorrow i pick up all the airstone and start stonework on the bar front. My father is coming down to give a hand with the bar top this weekend, so i'm hoping to knock out all the stonework tomorrow and Saturday morning.
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Got the stone work completed, ended up being very easy albeit tedious. I made some attempts at cutting the Airstone into 45 (2x 22.5) degree angles to match the plywood on the bar to no avail -- no matter what i did the stone would chip and it would look bad. Ended up cutting and staining a couple of pieces of oak to trim the corners out.

Choosing pieces + attempting the angle work:




In Progess, trim work is up and secure.



Corner Work - Thankfully Airstone makes corner pieces!


Final look - Testing out the LED lights, and the fit and placement for the 1/2" steel supports for my bar top overhang. I probably can get away with just my 3/4" plywood base for the bar top, but i want this thing to be bulletproof.

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Looking good! Nice job.
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Some more work - Bar has been topped! Routed the steel supports into place, then cut the 3/4" plywood to size to be the bar base. Here is a pic of the bar topped with just plywood and the vapor barrier paper meant to go beneath hardwood floors:



After a full 2 days of effort cutting the wood flooring to size and fastening with biscuit joints and nails, this is the result on the bar top:



Closeup of the bar top pattern:



I've spent a couple hours sanding and the bar top is very flat. Just about ready for stain, gotta make sure everything looks perfect before I start that process. I also cut and dry-fitted the bar rail trim i bought from Hardwoods Inc out of Maryland Here's a pic:



Plan is to stain and let dry dry, the use Waterlox to finish the top. Apologies on the lack of written descriptions, i'm more of a visual minded person and usually just let photos do the the talking. If anyone is curious about anything feel free to ask!
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Looking really good man. I love the paint color. I think gray with white trim is the way to go in basements. Like the built-in rack and of course the bar is looking really good. Nice build.
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Bar has been stained -





Need to wait a couple couple of days for the stain to dry completely, then hopefully Sunday i can waterlox my first coat!
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Really nice build. Once the keg-cooler went in I would not have gotten any other work done.

You will need a bunch of sound absorption in that room.
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Some updates -

Applied 2 coats of Waterlox to just the stained bar top after giving the stain a couple of full days to dry.



Cut, fitted, sanded, stained, and waterlox'ed the bar rail. Spent a fair amount of time trying to get the fit just perfect - turns out my angles are not exactly 45, so i fudged the cuts a bit to work.

Installation was generally a breeze - pre-drilled from underneath, glued, screwed, and clamped.

Had to use some shims to get the fit perfect due to irregularities in the plywood underlayment. The same issue happened on the bar top which i sanded flat.



The whole bar with the rail in place:




Next up is the bar cabinet built into the wall as shown in the background. Planning on framing it out in oak plywood, mirror on the back surface, and a nice glass shelf across the middle.
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Looks good! I'll be building a bar not that differnt from yours once I get my basement done. I can't wait to work on it but I have a while to go. I was also thinking of using a wood flooring for the bar top and also a stone veneer for the skin. I like the look of it especailly when lit from under the bar top! Are you planning to do any type of foot rest for the bottom? Just curious.

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Are you planning to do any type of foot rest for the bottom? Just curious.

Currently intend on constructing a foot rest out of steel piping using the home depot/lowes 90 degree bends and flanges to mount to the floor.

Very similar to this - http://absoluteremodeling.com/images/FootRailDet.666.jpg

Just a plan at the moment... Work has slowed down now that I'm out of time off from work!

On a build note, i've got the bar cabinet framed out with Oak, and the mirror placed. The Glass shelf has been on order for a couple of days - went with a Low-iron 1/2" piece of glass. Calculations say i should be able to support ~50 pounds in the very center of the glass over the 44" span. Going to try and keep weight on the shelf to a minimum to avoid breaking... would rather not have to buy another one of these (rather expensive) glass pieces.

Pics soon!
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Nice I like that look for the foot rest. Pretty neat idea. Would you be able to show pictures from behind the bar of the under neath area? Like yours my bar will be on the smaller side and I'll be a bit tight on space. I love seeing what others have done.

Thanks and I know what you mean about not having time! I've been dying to get back down in my basement but I just haven't had any time! After the first of the year I'm thinking of taking a week off work to do nothign but work 12 hours or more a day down there!

If I can get it cleaned up down there I plan to start a build thread!

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Bar Shelf inset has been completed!



1/2" Low-Iron Glass...


Not 100% happy with the location of the lights above the shelf - failed to take into account the fact that merely marking the 1/3 and 2/3 spots will make the distance between the two lights be smaller than the distance to either edge. Wasn't willing to buy more plywood to fix the issue tough, and i think it looks OK.


GEC -- I will grab some photos of the behind-bar tomorrow after work. It's still 2x4's and rough-- i way over framed it as it was my first time building anything like this... I've also picked out Granite for the back bar area -- Here's a shot of the slab, the granite guys are cutting it and it should be installed this week!

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Had a couple of folks ask me about the paint color - I used Benjamin Moore Mineral Alloy #1622 paint - http://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/paint-color/mineralalloy
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Been incredibly busy recently, finally got around to taking some photos of the finished granite install - It's definitely darker than i expected (only saw it in sunshine outdoors), but i like it.





Pics also show my basic framing methods for the bar - probably horribly over-framed -- i bet you could park a truck on this thing!

Next up is some plumbing work and electrical finish. Unfortunately the room is "usable", so my ambition to work quickly has shot right out the door!
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