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Old 02-25-2000, 03:27 PM - Thread Starter
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Given that I can make my basement perfectly dark and have about 12 ft of projection room and want ~96 in screen with 16:9 HDTV - which is the best option under two conditions:

1. Price no object ->
2. Price $12,000 for projector/screen->

(Quality used equipment is OK by me)

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D-ILA (about 11 to 12K street). Down side is that most bulbs cost $800+ and only last 1000 hours.
#1A 65 Inch Plasma unit-20k+ but Very impressive
#2. Possibley new Sony 400 or a whole host of different projectors in the 7 to 10K area. Others will have to help you here.
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OK - sounds good, but how do I see one of these in action in Cleveland, OH? Does anyone know of nearby shows? I aways seem to know more than the local Home Theater stores.

Also, CRTs beat DILA in contrast ratio, black levels, and potential resolution?

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The Sony G70 8" crt would also be a good option for that room - very bright and great picture. The inputs are flexible. They accept RGB, component, S video, and component HDTV. They can be had "B stock" for around 7k now.
Get a HTPC for DVD and a sat box for HDTV and you're set.
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T3: Thanks for the heads up on a Cleveland dealer. I'll check it out.

Mike: What is a good source of B stock for the Sony G70?

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I wouldn't go with a Sony G70. You can get much better CRT projectors for the same price. Electohome, Barco and NEC all make better looking projectors than Sony and can be found at lower prices.
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I wouldn't go with a Sony G70. You can get much better CRT projectors for the same price. Electohome, Barco and NEC all make better looking projectors than Sony and can be found at lower prices.
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That is great news. How much less than 7000.00 are the new 8" projectors you mentioned? Where can they be bought?
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Old 02-29-2000, 11:54 AM
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Alan Gouger here at AVscience used always have lots of B-Stock NECs.

http://www.tawow.com/ Specializes in used Barco projectors. He sells Barco 1208's for $6000 when you buy a screen a scaler from him.

http://www.hi-rez.com/ sells rebuilt Electrohome projectors.

It's not really that much less money for any of these options, but you'll get a much better picture than you will with the G70.
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I'm afraid I'll have to cast my vote for the SONY G-90. Short of a $100,000 3 chip DILA, which I'm note sure is even a better picture (though it is brighter, not that you need it in a light controlled environment)
you really can't beat it. Better resolution, control, color and an actual 350 ANSI lumens, measured, not theoretical.

I don't know of another projector that can take what the new Faroudja can dish out... 1080P...doubled. Faroudja could have used any projector in the world to demonstrate their new machine. They turned down the Barco 1209 in favor of the G-90.

These other units are fantastic, don't get me wrong here. The average person probably couldn't tell the difference. We're splitting hairs here, but that's my opinion.

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Hi Steve,

Have to agree with Mike2 on the G70. Mine looks great on a 54x96" screen. Check with Tom Young at Cinemasource. Each of the devices mentioned has its strengths and weaknesses. I recommend you go out and look for yourself and decide what looks best and fits within your budget.

If you're interested here's a picture of my G70 in action. http://members.xoom.com/sesmith1

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It's not really that much less money for any of these options, but you'll get a much better picture than you will with the G70.

Dave, you must be thinking of the D50. The G70 is one of the best 8" projectors around with liquid coupled lenses and light output of 240 ansi lumens, higher than either the Nec or Barco. It also comes with component inputs for HDTV sources.

At the Infocomm 98' projector shootout the G70 was compared to the Nec XG135LC. Both were scored the same except on brightness. The G70 measured 241 ansi lumens while the XG135LC measured only 176 lumens. In terms of resolution both were found to be capable of 1600x1200.

Sony projectors also carry a 3 year warranty.

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Steve,
Your ceiling box looks good. Did you use any sound insulating material? Have you had any problem with overheating?

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Mike,

Thanks, I used a combination of sound board and fiberglass insulation inside of the hushbox. To address heat buildup I installed a temperature controlled auxillary fan that vents into the attic.

I was considering glassing in the front of the box but the level of noise is now low enough that I don't even notice it while watching movies.
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Steve,

Nice set-up. That is pretty much what I envisioned. When can I bring some beer and popcorn over?

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