Thanks Bacon, that was a really helpful reply.
Originally Posted by Bacon13
I just picked up a W1080ST and I love it. Price was right and picture is good right out of the box.
This morning I went ahead and ordered the W1070 and will get it tomorrow (love that Amazon shipping!). Your post makes me more confident that I am not completely insane despite assertions to the contrary from *ahem* certain family members.
Re 1070 vs 1080ST, I was concerned about a short throw PJ being in limbo in the front section of the room and at my height I would be likely to run into it, but that is a very good point about it's value for gaming. My room is for mixed use and it certainly isn't a "Theater" by any stretch, so gaming in there isn't out of the question. Unfortunately, the throw of both means less than ideal placement and I think the 1070 is just a slightly better bet for me because it will put the PJ under or behind the seating and at less collision risk. Ideally, I would mount just in front of the central beam, which needs 8' from lens to screen, but the 1070 needs to be further back to get 90-100" and the 1080ST needs to be closer (4 to 6' -- kind of unbelievable that a projector can throw that large an image from that distance!). My ideal placement would have the projector lens just under 8' from the front wall if I am measuring correctly, which is a bit of a gap between these two projectors.
1. I would go as big as you can fit on the wall. If it means moving a speaker or so, then so be it. I wouldn't move it behind the screen unless you want to mess with an Acoustically Transparent screen.
Some of *ahem* us are uncomfortable with the idea of a screen that spans the entire wall.
100" is about the limit if I want approx 2' of clearance from the floor to the bottom of the screen. 92" will fit right in with the present layout. I will play around with different sizes and make a choice that everyone can live with before committing either way.
2. The W1080ST has no vertical lens shift so the projector needs to be only 1.5" or so above the top of the screen which may work out well for your low ceiling.
Good point. If I don't keep the W1070, it will because I switch to the W1080ST
3. I have a 120" paint on wall screen and the projector is mounted as far back as possible which is only 7'. If you are looking for something to mount in front of your beam, this would be it. I picked it specifically so we could stand up in front of the couch and play the Wii.
Sadly, I think 120" will be to tall. Bottom of the picture would be too close to the floor. (Curse these 50s houses and their low ceilinged small basements)
4. Ideally you would want the ceiling dark, but with your low ceilings and already dark walls, I totally understand that this isn't an option. Naturally a white ceiling will reduce the contrast of your screen, but its definitely livable. I have a white ceiling, but it is 2ft above the screen and it doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure if I painted it black it would make a difference, but mine is a multipurpose room instead of a dedicated theater so a cave just wasn't an option.
One thing I could do is paint the front bulkhead/box, which might help a little with reflected light at the top of the screen. I will experiment with some black sheets in the front half of the room and see how much difference it makes. The back half definitely has to stay white though, and so a two-toned ceiling might look a bit weird.
5. I'm assuming you're talking about switching between 2.35:1 and 16:9??? With your budget, I just wouldn't worry about it. Project onto a 16:9 screen and when the lights are off, you can't really see the black bars at the top and bottom.
Done and good.
6. I got the W1080ST for around $1100 and the painted screen cost me about $50. I'm sure a $200-$500 screen would make a difference, but I'm happy with the paint.
In your thread, I would love to see more explanation of how you did your screen. e.g. how you prepared the surface and got such a sharp straight line between the white screen and the black matting (was that some sort of frame you attached?).
Looks like you have an electrical junction box mounted on the left wall about 5.5' up. Can you tap off that and run power up the wall and across the ceiling to the projector location?
Where is your AVR and other equipment mounted?
Unfortunately just a jumble of cable TV wiring. The joists run from front to back of the room (if you think of the screen as the front of the room). Irrespective of where I put the projector, I plan to run HDMI and PowerBridge to the screen wall under the left speaker. The A/V equipment is all there and all of the existing in-wall wiring comes out there. I still need to sort out some sort of rack shelving there (currently using an old TV stand that I had lying around)
I'll try to get a pic posted tonight when i get home.
Would love to see updated pics of your space with projector in place in your thread. The woodwork is nicely done and I'm impressed by what you've done with such a challenging shaped room. (I bet it's an awesome place to live in though.)